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Bad Guy Crestieman - Robert Shays Reptiles

You have still yet to show proof of these 'harassing' messages. Go ahead and follow this herpetologists advice, although incorrect. Again, stop with the insults. They are uncalled for and childish.
 
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt Robert and assume you made the above post without noticing the PM about the infraction you received for the other one.

I suggest you cease with the insults and name calling.
 
I can disprove your comments about Katie being "inexperienced"

I'm a mod at Ciliatus.com, and here is her profile info.

Name: KatiesCresteds
Posts: 994 (0.611 per day)
Position: Breeder
IP: 98.211.43.197
Hostname:
c-98-211-43-197.hsd1.tn.comcast.net
Date Registered: November 15, 2006, 02:14:27 PM
Last Active: April 25, 2011, 01:55:31 PM
ICQ:
AIM:
MSN:
YIM:
Email: [email protected]
Website: K 'n' E Critters
Current Status: Offline Offline [Add To Buddy List]
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Location: Tennessee
Local Time: May 02, 2011, 03:27:28 AM
Language: English

Notice the "Date Registered".

November 15, 2006, 02:14:27 PM

http://ciliatus.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=215

Katie's been around in herps and cresties for YEARS.

Just because she's newer to Pangea, it doesn't mean that she hasn't been in the business on other forums.

Unlike you!

You joined Pangea just last year!!

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WOW!! 52 posts!! Most of which are ads in the Trade section!!

http://www.pangeareptile.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1280361

Makes you an expert, right?

As for the crestie's sex change, had YOU louped it, you probably would have seen the same pores Katie did.

They don't just appear overnight.

You may have even seen a hint of the bulge that it dropped within DAYS of arriving at Katie's.

It sounds like you were just trying to get a few extra bucks out of the gecko by claiming "POSSIBLE FEMALE", when you didn't have a clue to the gender.

And as for Katie's recent losses...it happens to ALL of us.

Cresties a LIVING CREATURES. NOT machines.

Sounds like I have yet one more person to add to my "never buy from/never sell to" list.
 
i am tired of this lady harassing me give her an infraction for her harassment!!!!!!! honestly she messaged me on facebook so much i had to block her that is why she thinks i deleted mine for real stop katie im done with you!!
 
i really do not need any three of you to purchase from myself nor would i sell to you!! i have gotten a legit message and comment from a herpetologist that i connected about this and provided him with the pictures of the crestie i sent to her and he said that even before i sent it, it looked female thats a herpetologist that said it too i have been in contact with him recently and he said due to the coloration and what not of this creature she got a steal so for real i dont care what she has to say or "show" about me i am selling fine without her or her harrassing me
 
So I'm guessing you do not have proof of these phantom messages?

If you are so experienced with these geckos, why do you need a herpetologist to sex them for you? I suggest you invest in a jewelers loupe.
 
no i didnt need a herp to sex them for me i know the person and i have bought cresties off him as he should know more than most people on here and the were messages they were in the chat so stop trying to change things honestly messages are chat things so thats what i have been referring to you always saying hey...hey you there,,,, hey,,,, hey robert,,,, hey ,,,,,, hey robert,,,,, hey talk to me,.,,,,,, hey i need some info,,,,, always harassing i am done with you as i will not sell to you again thank you very much what were you trying to get out of this? def not a gecko or money so what else huh?
 
I never once sent you a message with chat. I rarely USE the chat on Facebook, and I never would when discussing a transaction. There is no way to prove it unless it is archived.

Honestly, I believe I at least deserve a partial refund for it all. I was sold a female, expected to get a female, and got a male.
 
guess what you will not revieve a dime from me you have been harrassing me through chat and messages on here honestly just let it go you are going to go one and not buy from me again whoo who idc honestly and dont say you didnt send me a chat thing cause you did o stop lying this is ridiculous i told you in the chat that i had thought possible female and you got it and the pores and bulge just happened to show up there is no proof that that is the one i sold seeing as that is just the underside of the crestie thank you for harrassing me im done with you..... IM DONE WITH YOU
 
You cannot prove these chats as they NEVER happened and you know it.

Anyone know whether you can view past chats on Facebook? If so, I want to see proof of these, and I'll show proof they never once happened.

I will get video proof of the gecko in question tomorrow.
 
YOU DONT NEED VIDEO PROOF...im done with you! im done with the harrasment and yes i could get the messages as i have the new message system for facebook were it archives it and am i going to post it......no cause i dont care about this anymore i have 4 clutches ready to hatch and my beardie bout to lay her 2 clutch of eggs your wasting my time
 
Why not post it? Prove these accusations. You have no problem going on and on about them, but won't take the time to actually back up your claims?
 
this is the last post i will do.....i am not talking or doing buisness with you any longer and you are not going to go on and talk or send anything to me im sorry about the trouble you made out with a great deal any how be happy i dont file harrasment suit thank you that is all i will not post again katie have a good life good bye
 
Ignore this thread if you like, but my proof, your lack of proof, and your demeanor here will, I'm sure, cast a shadow over your business. Have you not taken the time to actually read Bad Guy threads in this forum? Like I see here all the time, it's not how good business is going, it's how the business man/woman handles things when they go bad.
 
That's okay, Katie. Just swallow the loss and find a pretty lady for the male.

As soon as Matt finds out about this thread, he'll block all his ads on Pangea, and he'll have to go elsewhere to sell.

And as he messes with more people, he will burn his bridges at other sites, too.

Soon he won't be able to sell them at shows, either, as word gets around.

He'll have to take $20 or so per gecko from Mom & Pop stores.

That's what happens when you mess with people and get a bad rep on the BOI.

Check out the thread on Jeff & Christina Wise.

That's a prime example of the BOI at it's finest!

It's all about getting the word out about people giving the hobby a bad name.
 
That's the plan, Donna ;) He's still a pretty gecko, although not what I was hoping for.

I agree, the Wise thread is a perfect example. I saw the flyers they made up and everything. This community is VERY impressive and sure knows how to investigate people! I'm proud to be a member here, and hope to one day have lots and lots of little green squares next to my name :)
 
no what happened here is that im fed up with her harrassing me and as for selling at mom and pop store i just sold 4 off my facebook auction site and web site for 150 + and i have not had a problem until this on this site and its due to her harrassing me and will not leave me alone and no i dont wanna go through it all and copy and paste it all i have been up all night with your complaining it is now 5:36 am and i am waiting for a crestie to ring at the door bell anytime seeing as i will wait for it to come so that i make sure that it is healthy and as for shows i will still show at them
 
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