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Dan Scolaro bad guy.

Dan Scolaro said:
Chuck:

We already know that you don't have friends and that is why I have extended my kindness to you.

Regardless, do you really think that anything these morons on these idiotic threads would sway anyone from buying any reptile? Nope. If a person wants something, they pay for it and life goes on. If not, someone else will get it and life goes on.

Now can you let life go on?

Can you lay in your coffin tonight and close the lid and sleep good knowing you accomplished nothing?

Dan




I have no friends that would be contacting you to buy anything, not in Orlando or any other parts of the world.

That said.....I challenge you to contact this potential customer interested in purchasing those Surinam's and direct him to this thread. The only good reason I could figure he is interested in purchasing anything from you is because he hasn't found this thread yet.

I expect if he does purchase from you that eventually he will find this thread down the road and promptly crap his pants.
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Chuck Kimmel

So in other words you wont accept the challenge. Buc..buc..buc..bucaww!

You Chicken Fart!

We all know the Tim guy you claimed emailed you doesn't exist and it was just your little game to make everyone think that this thread hasn't affected your sales.
 
Chuck:

You forgot that I never lie, cheat, nor steal.

If Tim is not your friend trying to be funny, then I will consider his offer.

But why would you care either way what animals I sell or not? This is a wonderful hobby and if an animal does not sell, I lower the price and it sells eventually and I buy more neat critters. So why do you care if I sell animals or not? I don't care what you do with your money, so why do you care what I do with my money?

Dan
 
Dan,I am glad you read my post.In the same moment,it seems you are having an issue with what is obvious,whether or not you "keep" boas yourself,this has passed through your facility.Yes,you brought it to light to a customer.Kudos for you.

That was the first step,but what about random sampling,and what preventative measures beyond your divulging to your customer.You must know that your exporter(s) could possibly be a source.It would serve everyone's interest,especially yours to know more than you do now.

Something as insidious as IBD is far too dangerous to turn a blind eye to.You may feel safe with the idea nothing has shown by now,but that is not how you will know.Even if random tests come back clean,and you could never prevent this from happening,as anything is possible,you could send a clear message that you made an honest attempt,to go with an honest revelation to your buying public.

I think LAURA'S post showed how dangerous this can be and should be of great concern to you and any other boa person out there who would buy from you.You do sell them,regardless of their stay being 3 hours or 3 days,they were there.
 
Chuck:

Do you really think that the possibility of a snake with IBD passing through my house months ago would prevent someone from buying an animal now?

You must be either nuts or stupid or both.

The possibility of that virus clinging onto a viper in another place here is a zillion to one, and to have lingered here in the kitchen for months is a zillion to one.

So you are peeing in the fan again my friend if you think you can scare anyone from buying a beautiful surinam. But if they are nuts to be afraid, that is fine with me as I don't nutty buyers anyway because they might come back in a few months claiming they fed it a rat pup and it died.

Dan
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Mike:

Am perhaps down to 1 surinam now if I accept that offer, but will get more high pink specimens within a week. I typically have a waiting list, but will allow you to jump to the head of the line.

Please email if interested.

Dan

So you don't keep them, but they are continually passing through the same facility as the boa which was found to have IBD about 4 days after it was received by a cusomer....thanks for the clarification :thumbsup:
 
Marcus, I am not sure if you read, but I did not get notified of the report until weeks/month after the sale.

I don't think that killing off a boa bought last week is worth killing to see if indeed it was a virus and if the viruse lingered. Had I been concerned, then of course I would have done that as my collection is quite important to me.

Dan





Dan,I am glad you read my post.In the same moment,it seems you are having an issue with what is obvious,whether or not you "keep" boas yourself,this has passed through your facility.Yes,you brought it to light to a customer.Kudos for you.

That was the first step,but what about random sampling,and what preventative measures beyond your divulging to your customer.You must know that your exporter(s) could possibly be a source.It would serve everyone's interest,especially yours to know more than you do now.

Something as insidious as IBD is far too dangerous to turn a blind eye to.You may feel safe with the idea nothing has shown by now,but that is not how you will know.Even if random tests come back clean,and you could never prevent this from happening,as anything is possible,you could send a clear message that you made an honest attempt,to go with an honest revelation to your buying public.

I think LAURA'S post showed how dangerous this can be and should be of great concern to you and any other boa person out there who would buy from you.You do sell them,regardless of their stay being 3 hours or 3 days,they were there.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Chuck, do you know this tim fellow in this email I just received?

Dan


I want to purchse this female and the pink female!OUTSTANDIN SURIS! If u could do $650 shipped I'll drop a money order with ups and you can ship next mon. or tues. I really want these please get back to me!
Tim

How about this, Dan? If you are SO sure of the fact that we're all just out to get you, give me the e-mail address of your buyer. I'm sure your outstanding reputation will speak for itself, and you'll have no problems completing the sale.
 
Mike, don't know what you mean? We spoke about this. The boa in question departed months ago and I got 3 more last week and they are in another area and doing great. If you think the virus lingered for 3 months, then sweat it out, but I think it would have disappated over such a long time if even present in the first place.

Dan


So you don't keep them, but they are continually passing through the same facility as the boa which was found to have IBD about 4 days after it was received by a cusomer....thanks for the clarification
 
Jenni:

I never said you were out to get me?

Why would you think I would give you this other buyers email address?

I mean I worked so hard to contain this virus in the kitchen and rubbed this other boa all over the walls last night and I am quite serious to send it out with the virus and some paint on its back.


Dan
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Chuck:

Do you really think that the possibility of a snake with IBD passing through my house months ago would prevent someone from buying an animal now?

You must be either nuts or stupid or both.

The possibility of that virus clinging onto a viper in another place here is a zillion to one, and to have lingered here in the kitchen for months is a zillion to one.

So you are peeing in the fan again my friend if you think you can scare anyone from buying a beautiful surinam. But if they are nuts to be afraid, that is fine with me as I don't nutty buyers anyway because they might come back in a few months claiming they fed it a rat pup and it died.

Dan

I don't even see how I could be the cause of scaring your customers away. I'm not a scary guy. I just posted some scary information that was provided to me by one of your former customers about a snake you sold him with IBD.

I'm scary?

BOO! Did anyone get scared from doing business with Dan?

Stop being lame and have Tim come over and identify himself as your potential customer and allow him to read the thread. If he has no concerns at all with purchasing from you then that's that. You made money and good for you. Its really that simple.
 
Dan-
The pics in your ad look remarkably similar to the pics posted earlier in this thread (from memory...if I'm wrong, let me know). How long was the period in which you had NO boids in your home? My concern here is that if you posted pics of snakes different than the suspect snakes, how can you be sure of what areas were and were not potentially contaminated? From what I've seen, you've been selling a continual stream of boids since the infected snake was found to have the inclusion bodies.
 
Chuck:

Right, you could not scare any customer away. That's the first thing you ever said that was accurate.

Dan


I don't even see how I could be the cause of scaring your customers away. I'm not a scary guy. I just posted some scary information that was provided to me by one of your former customers about a snake you sold him with IBD.

I'm scary?

BOO! Did anyone get scared from doing business with Dan?

Stop being lame and have Tim come over and identify himself as your potential customer and allow him to read the thread. If he has no concerns at all with purchasing from you then that's that. You made money and good for you. Its really that simple.
 
Those costa ricans were shipped in early to mid feb and got one two weeks ago and it sold the next day and got 3 more a week ago. There was no contamination. All boas are doing great even the one bagged with the one that showed with IBD. My guess is the snake was strangled and the snake remained alive for a few days and festered with inclusions like the vet said it would. Thanks, but unless anyone has something great to comment on this horse has been beaten too long.

Dan


Dan-
The pics in your ad look remarkably similar to the pics posted earlier in this thread (from memory...if I'm wrong, let me know). How long was the period in which you had NO boids in your home? My concern here is that if you posted pics of snakes different than the suspect snakes, how can you be sure of what areas were and were not potentially contaminated? From what I've seen, you've been selling a continual stream of boids since the infected snake was found to have the inclusion bodies.
 
On a side note, the kitchen is the worst place in the home for quarantine...it's the room we spend the most amount of time in...passing through it throughout the day.
There is no way to be sure that it could not have been passed to another animal...especially considering your lax record keeping.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
However the case, they departed here in February and if it was a virus, I am not convinced it lingered. And if it lingered, then what could have it attached itself to? I don't keep boas and pythons, so what animal is someone saying it might of been attached to?


Transmission: Exact route of transmission has not been identified. Possibly by: 1) direct contact; 2) intrauterine transmission to developing embryos in viviparous species and eggs in oviparous species; 3) veneral transmission. The snake mite, Ophionyssus natricis has been implicated as a vector for the virus since mite infestations are commonly seen in epizootics of IBD
 
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