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Dan Scolaro bad guy.

Craig:

I do not need proof as I am not guilty of anything but being too kind to extend a live arrival guarantee and refunding a customer his money.

You are the man asking for all the solid proof. You need evidence to charge me with sending a sick snake.

Show me the proof or apologize for wasting me time.

1. If you want to prove to me (or any court or authority) that the snake I shipped is in fact the snake from the report, then provide such evidence. No evidence, then you or anyone cannot accuse, try, and hang without proper evidence. I would remain in jail writing love letters to Chuck and missing him would be too much to bear, so that is not fair.

2. Secondly, there is a valid arguement that the buyer may of had other issues with IBD before. I am not saying he did, but how do we know that the snake he submitted was the snake he received from me and not some junk he had frozen for years or months? Why was he pissed when someone tried to contact the examiner? Why? I don't need to find out why as I could care less. It is you unemployed boobs that need to figure it out.

3. This is making more sense now. The third party person said the snakes were healthy, I said they were healthy, consulation told me to not ship the buyer a snake as he claims IBD befores, so how's to know I was not trying to be robbed over all of this. Now that I remember, he later asked me for hundreds of dollars later indicating if I did not pay he would make this pubic. Things are coming back now. A request for hundreds of dollars or a threat. Hey, where is the kid with the skink. Someone shake him and tell him its time to wake from his nap as we found another fellow who had threats.

Again, you and all these other nuts are throwing this and that out there like you are some kind of experts and none of you have even proved that the snake that was examined was the snake I saw here healthy.

So show me the proof or apologize for all the charges and let me out of jail so I can get my scented note pads and write more love letters to Chuck.

Dan
 
Dan go look at page 40 and say that's not your snake you have yet to denied that.
I am not the one putting the community at risk YOU ARE from you recklessness and inability to do anything. Also I am not going to believe a guy name Al you meet in a parking lot. You could of coach some fellow to say anything to Kelly. I don't see why you not concerned and trying to get evidence for yourself. Just for your own sake. Dan you been caught BSing through out this thread. Start at page 40 read it slowly and get back to me.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
So show me the proof or apologize for all the charges and let me out of jail so I can get my scented note pads and write more love letters to Chuck.

Dan
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Get your buddy john back then. Have him tell us that the snake he got, is the one you sent him, because thats all the proof we have. Remember, this is his fault for sharing those necropsy reports. and hes a slimeball too!

Why are you , only NOW trying to say this, instead if saying it right from the beginning?

Are you trying to twist the story now in your own favor? Well trust me bud, even if you do attempt to change the dance, every single person here is going to have a hard time believing what you say until you show proof that you dont have more IBD infected animals. ( Meaning, GET YOUR ANIMALS TESTED) If you had just said this from the get go, it would have been much easier to actually believe you, but now, well... you dug that grave and YOU have to get your own self out of it.

Frankly, i dont think thats going to happen.
 
Alicia:

Someone emailed me that there is a long thread on another forum and they are calling for me to sue you for posting those reports without permission.

I am a very nice guy, and won't do that as I don't think your intentions were not bad.

Dan
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Alicia:

Someone emailed me that there is a long thread on another forum and they are calling for me to sue you for posting those reports without permission.

I am a very nice guy, and won't do that as I don't think your intentions were not bad.

Dan
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Except i didnt post them.
 
You know... im actually curious... come to think of it.

Why would you sue me? i mean if business is doing great, why would you bother to sue me? Hope you can come up with a good one on that?

I mean, whats the point of suing someone if my posts arent hurting your business? Would that mean you are willing to admit the BOI does work, and that us bunch of "idiots" are actually having an effect on your business?


No. I think you have too much damn pride to admit that. and I call you out on your BS threat.
 
Mooing:

Because, like I said in the VERY BEGINNING - I packed a healthy fine snake and was very very very shocked to see it bloated in the photo the next day. The snake was verified now as healthy by a third party. What else do you want to know about it being healthy here. It fed a week before and I saw a big solid poop in the cage when it was taken from the box. The other snake is healthy, the other buyers snakes are healthy, so what more do you want to know about the snake's health here?

If you think for a nano-second that I would risk my great reputation and send a bloated snake to some buyer, then that is just plain nuts. I have over 100 species of snakes, perhaps the largest collection of diverse reptiles in the entire freaking world, so these conjecture about disease are just junk and are not even comprehensible. My buyers are just applauding me all the time for my kindness of giving them free animals and great service all the time. I mean look at that emerald guy. I sent him a free emerald and paid the shipping just to give the nice fellow a free snake. Who else do you know SHIPS ON HIS OWN COST A FREE SNAKE. I don't even have time to mess around with even contemplating to pull such crap.

You guys want to charge me with anything, then prove that snake was my snake.

Prove the inclusion cells developed at my house and not the buyers as that snake festered there for weeks if not a month while bloated.

Prove something besides the fact that you guys can only sling dirt but cannot take it.

None of your charges hold any water.

Dan

Get your buddy john back then. Have him tell us that the snake he got, is the one you sent him, because thats all the proof we have. Remember, this is his fault for sharing those necropsy reports. and hes a slimeball too!

Why are you , only NOW trying to say this, instead if saying it right from the beginning?

Are you trying to twist the story now in your own favor? Well trust me bud, even if you do attempt to change the dance, every single person here is going to have a hard time believing what you say until you show proof that you dont have more IBD infected animals. ( Meaning, GET YOUR ANIMALS TESTED) If you had just said this from the get go, it would have been much easier to actually believe you, but now, well... you dug that grave and YOU have to get your own self out of it.

Frankly, i dont think thats going to happen.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Mike:

It has been months since those snakes departed.

There is no evidence to suggest the bagged mates have any virus or diseases and they are all thriving. There is no evidence that suggests the snake had any IBD when it was here. That snake was healthy when packed and it arrived bloated and the inclusion cells developed at the buyers place.

But lets just say for a moment that I am wrong about where the disease developed?

It has been a few months since this so called virus could have been here.

How long would you think it would linger?

2 weeks, 30 days, 40 days, 60 days?

Well its been about that or longer, so I am not convinced there were or are any boa diseases here. I just bought 3 more last week and they are fine.

I have a very large collection of rare reptiles, and if I thought any risk was here, I would be very concerned of course.

Dan
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As has been stated numerous times, Boas can carry and transmit IBD for potentially years while remaining asymptomatic. While you may have a large collection, you admittedly do not keep Boas for any other purpose than flipping for a profit. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, in this situation, the only reptiles that would be at risk are those housed w/ snakes you have shipped elsewhere.

THERE IS NO QUICK OR EASY FIX!!!

The only fix is to quarantine every boid at your house, suspend boid sales, and perhaps euthanize and test any boid that looks to be in anything less than optimal health...no matter how minor...regardless of import status.
 
Dan S,
I hope you take the time to read this,as it is meant to be constructive.I understand some of what you are going through.I am an importer also,and recently started to see some issues with a certain animal group that I bring in on a monthly basis.The customer that I have(wholesale to)was very proactive and made me aware of the possibilities,and the seriousness of the matter.

At first I was a little taken back,and felt somewhat awkward,but once I put my personal feelings aside,I dove in headfirst with them on how we can combat this,because I enjoy what I do,and they do also.I do not mass import,but deal with a small group of clients,so my ability to get a tight grip on things is much easier than yours would be.As you deal retail I know it is very hard to keep track of everything,let alone dealing with brokers,F&W,USDA Ag and also the business side of things.I get it.

What I would suggest to you is to accept what appears to be obvious,that "there could be a problem that passed through your facility".You can't rule that out,no matter how much sideways BS is being hurled here(which you are also fueling in return)You need to take a serious look for your own sake.The Herp community is small,but always growing as yards and space keep shrinking.This is no attack,I have no dog in this fight,and actually share a common interest in importing,and have admired some of the more rare and obscure stock you bring in,as that is what I like to do also.

I will tell you on my own personal front,we are getting somewhere,as we have the Gov't ear in Malaysia on what is likely something worldwide.I hope you do the same for your business and your family's sake.The BOI does get sideways,but is useful and informative.Hope this gets worked out and the questions get answered.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Prove the inclusion cells developed at my house and not the buyers as that snake festered there for weeks if not a month while bloated.
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Hm.....according to the labeled pics from the buyer, he received the snakes on 2/7/08. The specimen was received for necropsy on 2/11/08. That looks like, uh...4 days to me, not weeks or months. :shrug01:

Regardless, no one EVER said that the cells "developed" while at your house. They could very well have been there before you got it, since they can appear outwardly healthy for quite some time before showing signs of the disease. The fact is, it was shown to have IBD, it was sold by you, therefore an IBD infected snake came from your house.

If you would have handled this all differently, Dan, instead of denying and attacking, it would have been a whole different story.

Funny how you never disputed the fact that that was the snake you sold your friend (he IS your friend, he would have no reason to switch animals, right?) until all of your pitiful excuses and explanations were sunk.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
You guys want to charge me with anything, then prove that snake was my snake.
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Well, I'm sure everyone would LOVE to show proof that was your snake. Unfortunately, as you said yourself, you do not keep any sort of photo ID records or the snakes you sell... which makes it impossible.

This thread has pretty much spoke for itself. Dan isn't going to turn himself around any time soon. He's not going to do the right thing and get his collection tested. He's not going to make the issue right. What he IS going to do is keep throwing :censored: at everyone who tries to bring up a "legitimate complaint." Insisting a business is pure gold for 125 pages doesn't make it true.

At this point, Dan will start losing business. A few more buyers are going to get scammed. There is the possibility that some will have their collections wiped out from IBD courtesy of one of Dan's animals. Eventually, the entire herp community is going to blacklist this guy.

In short 'you give what you get', and the natural progression of free enterprise will take care of the situation when Dan isn't willing to.
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Alicia:

Someone emailed me that there is a long thread on another forum and they are calling for me to sue you for posting those reports without permission.

I am a very nice guy, and won't do that as I don't think your intentions were not bad.

Dan
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Alicia didn't post the reports. I offered them to anyone who could help me post them because I could not convert them to the appropriate size or format for an acceptable upload to fauna. Even before that, I shared them with several people just for confirmation purposes. I am 100% responsible for the posting of any and all emails, photos, and documentation that your customer, John Crickmer, sent me.

If you want someone to sue I'm your man. But John Crickmer is the guy you should be suing and any good attorney would tell you that.
 
Yo Dano!

Its that time again. Time for the official thread view count. Just a heads up...its not looking good. If I could play DTS business weatherman for a moment.....its dark and cloudy with a chance of a late afternoon lost sale.

Are you ready?

This is gonna sting....

18,103

Another 2000 views from the last time I reported in.

So hows business going Dano?
 
Dan. you brought up in a court of law .. I mentioned this to you before in cicil court you only have to prove what is Most Likely.

When photos of the snake were posted you went into some detail explaining how it got strangled and referred to those photos . Reading what you wrote any reasonable person would conclude that was the snake you shipped, the snake with IBD.

Keep trying to weasel your way out if you like but the SS Weasel sailed many many pages ago..

here is what you have now and isn't that you in the middle of the tracks. Randy
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ravensgait said:
Dan. you brought up in a court of law .. I mentioned this to you before in cicil court you only have to prove what is Most Likely.

When photos of the snake were posted you went into some detail explaining how it got strangled and referred to those photos . Reading what you wrote any reasonable person would conclude that was the snake you shipped, the snake with IBD.
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Precisely. I would welcome contact from his attorney if that's the path he chose to take.
 
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