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Dan Scolaro bad guy.

Dan Scolaro said:
Yea, look at that report of signs and syptoms of snakes suffering from IBD. I did not see any of those signs and symptoms. Had I seen anything, then I would have called the buyer and discussed the issue. I once was packing and noticed a small nose rub on a snake and called the buyer and he was cool with it and I threw in another free snake because he was a delight to speak with. I had other sources for costa rican boas. Had that one any issues to notice, I would have told the buyer and got him another one down the road at a friends. No big deal to do that.

Dan



CAT: As an example, the statement that you keep making that you know that the boa you sent was completely healthy because it didn't show any symptoms of IBD.
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Ok, for just a minute, let's pretend that we know the snake actually did appear outwardly healthy when you shipped it out. Regardless of that, its outward appearance DOES NOT MEAN IT CANNOT HAVE IBD. You can repeat that you refunded his money 100 more times, I don't care. You can keep insisting that it appeared healthy before you shipped it. Fine. None of this has any bearing on the fact that the necropsy SHOWED IBD. If it had IBD, it was not completely healthy. I'm not sure what part of that you cannot grasp.

Dead and dying snakes ARE legitimate complaints, whether or not you refunded their money. To say that you have had no legitimate complaints is a good example of that "deception" I referred to earlier. Some of those complaints may have been resolved....but they were still perfectly legitimate at one time.
 
Dan -

Normally I'm more of a watcher... but you are just a new type of idiot.

You are apparently completely unable to comprehend anything that is being said to you. This "board full of idiots" makes up a good... 60% (or more?) of the herp community. I think it's also safe to say that almost EVERY large scale breeder and collector knows about the BOI. What do you think is going to happen the next time someone searches for your name and finds this thread? Do you SERIOUSLY think they're going to read through all 88 pages and discover what a wonderful and misunderstood victim you are? Not likely. They're going to read the first five at best, see you constantly dodging any sort of responsibility, and decide to pay a bit more so they don't have to deal with a complete shadeball.

You keep saying that you've never had a "legitimate complaint" about any of your animals. Well, take a memo: THIS IS A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT. So there you go, your first one. Congrats. You have "almost" 2001 sales and a legitimate complaint.

Your guarantee SUCKS. Live arrival is NOT some miraculous thing that only you offer. I can post a dozen businesses in the next 10 minutes which all guarantee live arrival. You also say that your two-week health guarantee IS NOT one of the 'best guarantees in the business'. Hate to break it to you, but quite a few companies offer 2 week guarantees. Some even offer a whole month! So let me know if you want those business names. ;)

And finally, you have NOT won an argument against Chuck. As a matter of fact, Chuck has OWNED you at least once on every page in this thread. Go sit at the kiddy table, because you are not ready to play with the adults.
 
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jrgh17 said:
Your guarantee SUCKS. Live arrival is NOT some miraculous thing that only you offer. I can post a dozen businesses in the next 10 minutes which all guarantee live arrival. You also say that your two-week health guarantee is one of the 'best guarantees in the business'. Hate to break it to you, but quite a few companies offer 2 week guarantees. Some even offer a whole month! So let me know if you want those business names. ;)
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Dan Scolaro said:
Perhaps you're daft, but has it not dawned on you yet that all those hits you keep looking up just might just be from your enemies that are glad to see someone stand up to you and win another argument.
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Wow! Is that what this thread is about? Its about winning an argument? And I'm involved in that argument somehow? Shows how much I pay attention.

I thought this thread was about Dan Scolaro, the scumbag extraordinaire, and his case of IBD with his psycho female hating friend John Crickmer.

Let me check the title of the thread again to be sure......yep..there it is.

Dan Scolaro bad guy.

But maybe your theory is right. Maybe 13,000 people log in to view this thread just to see what I'm up to. I'm quite a draw. I should think about grabbing a whole forum on here just for me.
 
jrgh17 said:
And finally, you have NOT won an argument against Chuck. As a matter of fact, Chuck has OWNED you at least once on every page in this thread. Go sit at the kiddy table, because you are not ready to play with the adults.
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I think I'm in love with Jen! :eek:
 
Dan Scolaro said:
Rat pups weigh too much for skinny imported emeralds to hold. I informed it was doing fine on mice but since it was skinny it would pose a risk to offer it a pup which weighs twice as much as a mouse. He said OK but emailed a week later to say it puked a pup and tried to force feed it abother pup. I said it would die. He said he will do what he is being advised there and would assume all risks. I said OK, but they will die.

How do you include photos on these posts?

Dan
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Let me see, a healthy emerald in proper environment doesn't puke, period. Import emeralds that have issues and start puking on appropriate size food, belong in the "freezer collection", been there, done that. There is nothing that will cure this situation. But, I must say that these are the risks when dealing with wc imports. If you as a buyer have done your homework about wc's and choose to accept the risk, it's on your head. However, if the seller knows an emerald is puking and sells it anyway......

Craig
 
Cat_72 said:
I'm not sure what this really means....no one is saying that Dan himself gave the animal IBD. The highly contagious nature of the disease is what concerns people....an an animal passed through someplace carrying the disease, it could very well spread it, no matter WHERE it originated. The origin of the disease has nothing to do with anything, the fact that an animal with IBD passed through is what matters.
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Just trying to shed some light on why he seemed less than concerned about the Boas he's currently holding. He feels he did his best at following proper quarantine procedures in keeping these snakes and that which they came into contact with seperate from everything else. Whether his best is the same as my best or your best remains to be seen, but that is something that is going to be a watch and see kind of thing.

I think the damage is already done here and those who have Boids from Dan need to keep a close eye on them. I also feel that we can't very well force him to suspend all Boid sales indefinitely as I suggested he do over the phone, but rather allow this thread to be a tool for prospective buyers.

Dan, of course, should accept the fact that there is a possibility, regardless of the precautions he took, that he may have a Boid or 2 at the moment that has come into contact with common areas in his home which the dead snake had been in contact with previously. I hope he has taken a little extra time to examine this possibility and act accordingly.

Let's all cross our fingers for now and hope that this isn't the beginning of something very bad. :thumbsup:
 
Dan Scolaro said:
What animals? I bought one boa to resell since that sale and bought 3 more last week and they were not even put in the same room as the costa rican boas, so what gives with all the worry? My collection consists of vipers and they don't have any issues and are kept in a separate room and never heard of one with and bone diseases.

Dan
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IBD isnt a BONE disease!!!!!!! LMAO

You really dont know what the heck youre talking about do you!?
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
IBD isnt a BONE disease!!!!!!! LMAO

You really dont know what the heck youre talking about do you!?
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Alicia,

This is scary. I have seen good hardworking people put thousands and thousands of dollars into their collections and take years of their lives with breeding projects that may be irreplaceable.

The attitude and lack of knowledge of someone who receives a report such as the one posted and does not immediately do intensive research to learn what exactly the report means to his stock and business, who does not immediately halt boid sales (and maybe even all sales) and notify all recent buyers and retest and ask for further testing could potentially mean devastation for all of those hardworking folks :(
 
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90 pages and yet still no proof posted that you promised dan...craig, im standing next to you, but i brought a backhoe. and i dont think it is to dig any holes for chuck...

normally i am a bi-stander to the BOI, but this situation has brought me out of my shell. how can we ever lift the stereotypes of us herp lovers with people like this (dan) in our industry???

i am not a "snake person" (i deal with leopard geckos, bearded dragons and cresteds mostly), but this is an outrage! how can ANY breeder have such a cavalier attitude about the fact that, knowingly or not, he has passed on animals that have been proven to carry a highly infectious, devastating disease? this scares me as a consumer. i like snakes. i would love to join that world, but now, what do i think? how do i know that ANYONE has safe stock, considering the amount of animals dan CLAIMS he is sending out? how is anyone to know? lets not even mention the breeders who may have to go through serious implications from this, both with sales and possible loss of stock. and the poor animals - it makes me want to cry.

IBD, as a VERY loose metaphor, is the equivalent of the adenovirus issue that occurred in the bearded dragon world recently, and look how that ended. how many breeders and hobbyist lost their stock because it was kept so quiet for so long? and now, because people like dan dont want to own up that there is a POSSIBILITY of an animal he sold having this virus, much less continuing to act like a complete kindergartener, animals will die, people will lose thousands of dollars, and hearts will be broken. all in the name of, what? pride? how sad...

dan, you claim business is good. we are oh, SO happy for you. its nice to know that this possibility has not kept you from continuing the sale of animals to innocent people because you can talk a good game. you know, when i was a kid, my mother used to tell me i could talk my way out of anything. and as i grew up, she told me one day it would catch up to me and i would know it. it took one time over something stupid or me to realize how right she was.

dan.... :bolt01: because its catching you more quickly than you realize...
 
This Topic was brought up on 4-14. That has given you more then enough time to get Documents, the pictures you said you took of the Boas before shipping. Pretty much anything to help your case on this thread. So me and my shovel will be following this thread waiting...
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
IBD isnt a BONE disease!!!!!!! LMAO

You really dont know what the heck youre talking about do you!?
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I think he does, Alicia. I don't believe he could possibly be that ignorant, he chooses to throw the misinformation out there, hoping to create doubt.

Or how about this one?

Dan Scolaro said:
Rat pups weigh too much for skinny imported emeralds to hold. I informed it was doing fine on mice but since it was skinny it would pose a risk to offer it a pup which weighs twice as much as a mouse.
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What??

Just so I have actual sources, unlike Dan, I quote:

RodentPro rat pup weight: 20-29 g
RodentPro adult mouse weight: 20-29g

Big Cheese rat pup weight: 20-35 g
Big Cheese adult mouse weight: 25-32 g

Mouse Factory rat pup weight: 27 g
Mouse factory adult mouse weight: 25 g

Mice on Ice rat pup weight: 28 g
Mice on Ice adult mouse weight: 28 g

Where am I supposed to find a mouse that weighs HALF as much as a rat pup??
 
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