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Dan Scolaro bad guy.

Not the wrong thread not the wrong guy..

Dan has a pet store in Red Deer Alberta and the conditions in the store are appalling. The reptiles are living in feces, a couple days worth either. Chams and snakes and dragons and monitors with no water. Lots have offered constructive criticism and he freaks out and swears at them and threatens to call the cops the throws them out. There is nothing thriving there but Dan. Now he is selling exotic birds out of his little dungeon. Everyone who goes in there has personal dealings as they are going there to purchase a pet or ask his advice thinking he is in the know because he has animals. Just wanted to help get rid of him, and letting you know it goes farther than his importing dead animals business and have personally talked to Don Ferguson who is asking for more complaints that he needs to shut this whole lousy stinking situation down. Trust me he doesn't consider this a waste of his time. Hope any of you whom have seen these awful conditions will help us. If they pull his license he won't be importing anything.
 
Red Deer InternetPetStoe said:
Dan has a pet store in Red Deer Alberta and the conditions in the store are appalling. The reptiles are living in feces, a couple days worth either. Chams and snakes and dragons and monitors with no water. Lots have offered constructive criticism and he freaks out and swears at them and threatens to call the cops the throws them out. There is nothing thriving there but Dan. Now he is selling exotic birds out of his little dungeon. Everyone who goes in there has personal dealings as they are going there to purchase a pet or ask his advice thinking he is in the know because he has animals. Just wanted to help get rid of him, and letting you know it goes farther than his importing dead animals business and have personally talked to Don Ferguson who is asking for more complaints that he needs to shut this whole lousy stinking situation down. Trust me he doesn't consider this a waste of his time. Hope any of you whom have seen these awful conditions will help us. If they pull his license he won't be importing anything.
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This Dan lives in Florida. You have the wrong guy. Wake up.
 
Red Deer InternetPetStoe said:
Dan has a pet store in Red Deer Alberta and the conditions in the store are appalling. The reptiles are living in feces, a couple days worth either. Chams and snakes and dragons and monitors with no water. Lots have offered constructive criticism and he freaks out and swears at them and threatens to call the cops the throws them out. There is nothing thriving there but Dan. Now he is selling exotic birds out of his little dungeon. Everyone who goes in there has personal dealings as they are going there to purchase a pet or ask his advice thinking he is in the know because he has animals. Just wanted to help get rid of him, and letting you know it goes farther than his importing dead animals business and have personally talked to Don Ferguson who is asking for more complaints that he needs to shut this whole lousy stinking situation down. Trust me he doesn't consider this a waste of his time. Hope any of you whom have seen these awful conditions will help us. If they pull his license he won't be importing anything.
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No, this Dan is in Florida. You already posted on the correct thread on the Canadian BOI. This is the US BOI and this Dan has been in Florida for many years. Now, get your act together.

This is the thread you want.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95958
 
Good question Jim, Anyone can say they are doing something and just as the saying goes give it lip service. I'm not in the snake business and can only really look at your question from what I know is done in the large animal industries. Which isn't any help to us here as we have no oversight. To me it looks like Dan is in a bad way as far as trying to prove his animals and facility are clean. he's told so may lies and so much BS that most wouldn't take his word for it even if he did something. He's shot himself and seems to have just realised what he's done.

If it were me this is what I'd do.
First thing would be to shut down and disinfect, no animals in or out. I'd contact an expert on the subject and ask for advice and help. I'd notify recent customers letting them know the problem and encouraging them to QUARANTINE. I'd get the word out publicly, as having it come from me is far better than hearing who knows what from others.. I'd closely watch animals that came from the same room or what have you as the affected animal. IF the experts thought it a good idea I'd give them an animal or three from that room for testing. I would try to keep information flowing as much as possible, keep people informed, informed people are no where near as scared as the uninformed are.. It is trying to hide things like this that do the most damage and things like this can't be kept secret forever. From this point who really knows as we are talking about something we know kills but don't really know much about it. I'll add this and this would be hard , Say they found one or more of my animals were carrying IBD I would have to seriously consider killing a number or all my animals to stop it ! well if I were a dealer that is. A privite collector can just close his collection and deal with what comes.

The money thing comes to mind IE what if someone bought an animal from you that had IBD and infected their collection just how much exposure do you have in this circumstance. I guess when it comes down to it a court may have to decide . I would think your exposure would be worse if you did like Dan and tried to BS your way out of it and well tried to hide it.


This is harder on Wholesalers ETC that just your average collector, they have animals in and out and a constant fight with Mites ETC. The big guys are a whole other story and would take a far bigger hit if they had a serious outbreak. It is hard to put the good of the industry ahead of you and yours but I would hope they would deal with the problem the right way.

How long do you shut down for? I don't know that would be left to the opinion of the experts but if this were a business that ones livelihood depends on, shutting down for any period of time could be disastrous. I would think that letting the Vets necropsy a few of your animals would shorten the down time and that with say a serious cleaning and disinfecting would make you good to go again. Seems to me the more proactive you are the quicker you can get it taken care of and get things back up and running.

Jim, I look at what Dan did here as the worst thing one could do in the situation he found himself in. Hopefully Dan's example will show the next person that lying and trying to hide it is going to hurt them worse in the long run, as I said you can't keep it quiet. People will find out and then your chit is weak, people wont want to believe you are taking care of it after the fact they wont trust you. Being honest and upfront about it will still hurt but not as bad as what has happened here. If you were a good business person before this happened people will see that and see you doing the right thing, sure you'll take a hit in the pocket but being dishonest will cost far more so much you might not recover. Yeah not much help but all I have at almost 2 in the morning. Anyone else with any thoughts on this please jump in. Randy
 
Red Deer InternetPetStoe said:
Dan has a pet store in Red Deer Alberta.
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You got your Deers mixed up.

Dan Scolaro live in Deerfield, Florida, USA. Not, Red Deer, Alberta, Canada.

Go play some hockey, take another puck to the head.
 
Red Deer InternetPetStoe said:
Actually Marks Mom is more your type see she's rude too.
Deb
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So your name is Deb and its not Mark?

I'll just say bye bye now because either your post here will be deleted or your account will be banned. I'm going with banned because you seem really dumb.

And for the record Debbie....I love a senior citizen that likes to talk smack in the sack.
 
Red Deer InternetPetStoe said:
No need to be rude girls, we all make mistakes. Save your rudness for your buddy Danno
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Not to be rude child, but what the heck is "rudness"? :rofl:
 
LOL yeah, funny thing is when I first saw it I thought it said Dum lol. It never ceases to amaze me how people can screw up and when corrected take such offense that they have to act the idiot over it.. Randy
 
Red Deer InternetPetStoe said:
None of you Americans have wives.? Besides this is between Chuck and Sandra
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Two issues here:

(1) If your name is not "Mark Steeves" then don't use this account to post on the BOI unless you spell out your FULL name in every post you make.

(2) You are apparently posting irrelevant info into this thread. And continuing to stir the pot even though your error should be obvious to you by now. Best thing you could have done was to post an apology and then made your exit.

So, unless you have something informational wise pertinent to this thread, I advise you to take your posting to an appropriate thread. We have enough trouble keeping posts on topic on this site, and I don't think we need you making things worse.

And getting snippity with the members here over it is only going to get you in trouble, so I suggest that you cease with that sort of antagonism.
 
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Viewing Thread Dan Scolaro bad guy. @ 02:55 AM

Poor chick is still trying to figure out whats going on.

Earth to Debbie, you are on the right planet but the wrong forum.

Please press alt+f4 simultaneously (that means at the same time) on your keyboard for further instructions.
 
FunkyRES said:
You get what you pay for - pay more for an animal directly from the guy who bred it than for an equivalent from a volume dealer and you reduce your risk.
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Who do you think are buying the animals from resellers like Dan? How do you know that the breeder you are buying that animal from hasn't just purchased an animal from one of those resellers? :shrug01:

Regardless, as I've said over and over....if Dan would have handled this much differently, none of this would have come about. He screwed himself.
 
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