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danktat kenneth bryan

It's possible Dan but to have 3 seperate boas from 3 seperate breeders all be sick and die seems like the odds would be a billion to one of that happening.
Not to mention he has not provide ANY details whatsoever and ha not responded to ANY of the questions people have asked of him.
Sounds very fishy to me.
 
This is the way things went down.......I am linking you to another thread on a different forum to show what I was going thru to figure out how to rectify this situation. Before I figured it out this post ended up here..

http://reptileinsider.com/uploads/showthread.php?t=12982

I wasn't aware of "other boas" dying in this same kind of situation. Makes me rethink wanting to do ANYTHING at this point.

I try my best to not only provide what I would think are good, healthy animals. But also I try to provide the support that would help people who purchase animals from me to deal with some of the issues that come about with the particular species sold. Suriname BCC tend to have a few "idiosyncrasies" that sometimes need to be ironed out when aclimating a new animal.

The fact of the matter is that the sale was made in early March. It is now mid July. I know of no one else who offers that kind of time frame on a full refund. Even at that, I was looking to see what "reasonable" apeasement could be worked out. Now, before I could figure out a way to work things out I come to the BOI and find this thread. Rather upsetting to say the least.

I apologize for the rant. Just get irate sometimes when you try to be easy to deal with and this kind of thing happens.

Mods, if anything in my post is agains the TOS please delete.

Kenneth Bryan,
dank-herps
 
The other 2 threads he started regarding the other boas have been deleted since he didn't put the persons name in the title.

Maybe one of the mods or Rich can retrieve them.
 
It's possible Dan but to have 3 seperate boas from 3 seperate breeders all be sick and die seems like the odds would be a billion to one of that happening.
Not to mention he has not provide ANY details whatsoever and ha not responded to ANY of the questions people have asked of him.
Sounds very fishy to me.
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Not only three different threads about three separate boas and people but also different accusations to the causes of the deaths.
 
Ken,

In all honesty you did what you had to do. Having said this though, there are some skin folds on that boa that don't look good. Granted, it is a baby and all, but personally it wouldn't have been a snake that I would choose.

Best.
 
I have never purchased from Dank directly, but I have known/talked to him for years and I feel he is incredibly knowledgeable, helpful, and I wouldn't hesitate to do business with him. He is a wealth of good information, he has excellent husbandry standards, and puts the animals health and quality of life above all else. Knowing him, I would have a VERY hard time believing that if something happened to one of his animals, not only would he be very concerned, but I am sure that he would try his hardest to rectify the situation in a timely manner. Avoiding calls and emails just isnt his style.

Knowing that the OP had snakes die from multiple breeders, refuses to come answer questions, or back this thread up with ANY proof whatsoever, goes to show his complete lack of credibility. Seems to me like some idiot doesnt know how to take care of his animals, and so he is trying to place blame on everyone, instead of taking responsibility himself.

I hope no one reads this thread and takes anything this guy has said seriously. Its obviously just an attempt to slander Dank's good name.

Tamara Locke
 
I don't normally put my 2 cents into matters that don't directly concern me, but in this instance I smell a troll. Dank is a good guy and is very visible in the boa forums, sharing his passion for snakes and showing his wonderful collection.

I know he wouldn't knowingly sell a sick animal or ignore a buyer that had a genuine concern. And while we are dealing with LIVING beings, there will always be an instance where an animal does not fare well. I highly doubt this is the case however, as it sounds like poor husbandry, if the boa is in fact deceased.

Paul Snyder
 
I have been an admirer of Ken's snakes for a long long time now. From what I have seen he is a very good guy, with a great reputation that is well earned.
I see folks here praising him, and his animals, and that is deserved.
The only thing I see wrong with that however is that the snake in question wasn't "his". It was in his posession, and he paid for it. However , from the other thread I gather that it was more of a brokering type of deal. He says the snakes were not quarantined, and he even had to call Phong after the buyer received the snake to make sure they were eating. Now, this happenes every day. I have no problem with brokering, or retail as long as the seller stands behind what he is selling.
Ken has done that, and offered a guarantee beyond anything offered before shipment, after the buyer complained.
If the buyer had demanded a refund when he first got the snake rather than agreeing to keep it for 30 days to see how it went, I think Ken would have to accept that. I honestly think he would have. However, the buyer chose to keep the snake for the 30 day trial....and another 30 days...and another 30 days...and another.
There very well could have been something wrong with that snake when it was sent, and Ken didn't notice it.He didn't have them long (not even long enough to feed them).The snakes were awesome and sold quickly.
When it died 4 months later though, I can't imagine Ken having to absorb any of the blame for that. If the buyer took it to the vet when he got it, there should be a paper trail.If tests were done, and something found, Ken should have been notified about exactly what it was. If he didn't take it to the vet, and he thought for 4 months that it was sick, then he needs to be on everybody's "do not sell to" list.
 
Being over the border, I've never done business with Dank, but I have seen plenty of pictures of his snakes on RTB, and I've even gone as far as asking for his advice with a sick snake that a friend of mine was dealing with.

I respect Ken quite a bit, he's got gorgeous animals and I wouldn't hesitate to do business with him if I was somehow granted the opportunity to get a snake from him.
 
I've never done business with Dank (Kenneth) but he posts frequently on two of the forums I go to.

From the photos and content of his posts, I can say in my opinion he has a very nice collection of BCC and takes excellent care of them...

I would not hesitate to purchase from him, if something came available I wanted...

I see several problems with the original post that started this thread...no dates, no timeline, no specifics, and most importantly, no emails...obviously someone having serious issues of their own and lashing out at the most convenient target of the moment...

Three different snakes dead from three different people...is not bad snakes, it's a bad buyer who doesn't have a freaking clue what they are doing...
 
Did the buyer have any shred of credit to his claims about the other two dead snakes? On the surface it's an eerily familiar pattern for someone trying to get free/cheap animals. First he said it was small. Then said the color was off. Later saying it wasn't gaining weight, and in the time frame months later, another attempt to get some compensation. Never agreed to send the animal back. Was there ever a vet visit?

I wish I saw those other threads. 3 animals from diff sources, 3 deaths you say? Bet it's somebody that hasn't been around herpin for any length of time or they'd have the procedure down if trouble with a purchase came up. You'rebeing too kind saying it's bad husbandry and three snakes died. I'd bet he still has 'em, alive and well. I'd even print out this post and take pics of me eating it if I'm wrong. Yeah, fishy. Especially when he doesn't come back to discuss or answer Q's (AFAIK)

Sorry, just sounds like a scam to me. I'd give 5% chance of it actually being buyer's remorse.
Ken, any credit to OP's claim that calls and email weren't returned?
No doubt Mr. Farr won't be able to post copies of emails...
 
The last time we talked was the day I posted the thread at the other forum. I was in the process of asking what other sellers would do in this situation to both pacify the client AND not take a full loss. He called once when I was working and I had my apprentice take a message (I do tattoos and can't touch the phone with bloody gloves on). The next time he called was after work hours when no one was in the shop. The very next day I get PM's on other forums informing me of this thread. I haven't gotten any emails. He did however go to the imageevent page I have up and leave a gustbook "complaint" the same day this thread started. MUCH LATER IN THE DAY so he could have simply replied here or sent a real e-mail.

At this point I am going to chalk this up as a situation that I cannot remedy.
 
He owes him nothing.. I know Ken and he takes AMAZING care of his boas. He had this bos in his care for 2 months, and prolly killed it himself. I also know many who have his boas and are happy. They are all properly cared for and he takes great pride in that. I dont have one but he has posted pics from birth to the ones he still has left and his husbandry is excellent. He is extreamly knowlegable and has the BEST Suris around. I would buy from in a heartbeart!!!

No fault on his part
 
danktat aka ken, has a beautiful collection of animals. This is a guy who is very passionate not only about the reptile hobby but also very passionate about his animals. Ken is the type of guy who would give you the shirt off his back, and is willing to help anyone anytime they need help. I personally would trust my whole collection in his hands and would never think twice or worry about their health or safety with him.

that being said he made a thread on RTC and was very upset and concerned about this situation, even though he was in the right he still felt guilty(even though he shouldnt have) about this situation and was going to do whatever it took to make it right. he offered this guy 30 days to send the animal back for a refund, he refused, now 4 months goes by and he wants a full refund. im sorry i dont know any other breeder that has a 4 month return policy. Do you???

even after 4 months ken felt horrible and asked the advice of others about what to do about this situation and was willing to help this guy out. now does this sound like a guy who doesn't care about his animals or who he sells them to i think not. in the process of deciding what to do, this guy makes this thread here bashing ken. i wonder who the bad guy is in this situation, i think we all know.

not only that but the real truth comes out, he had three snakes die from three different breeders, which makes me wonder, either he is a scam artist, or he has horrible husbandry and care practices at which point it is no ones fault. he failed to mention that point when going around slamming wonderful people and breeders.
at this point ken is at no fault and owes this guy nothing, personally i think this guy needs to be on a do not sell list or he will be bashing your reputation next when he kills your animal. like i said i think its pretty clear who as at fault here.

i personally would sell my first born (i kid, i kid) to get a boa from ken, or a arm or leg whatever he wanted, i have been watching ken post his animals for almost 2 years and i have never seen a unhealthy animal. i have also been waiting to get one of his boas for 2 years to lol, i would take the oppurtunity as a blessing, and be thankful just to have one from him.

i hope this guy doesn't ruin kens reputation in anyway and that no one takes him seriously because ken is a great guy and doesn't deserve this.

that is my 2 cents.

dustin lach.
 
So now I keep getting this guy leaving guestbook messages on my imageevent. Instead of taking heed to anything that has been said in this post, he would rather become a nucience and have me keep deleting those messages.
 
danktat said:
So now I keep getting this guy leaving guestbook messages on my imageevent. Instead of taking heed to anything that has been said in this post, he would rather become a nucience and have me keep deleting those messages.
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With his initial 3 posts about 3 different vendors, and the fact that he has not provided anything to back up his claims, he was a nuisance from the getgo. Sorry you are having to put up with him.
 
Don't let it get to you Mr. Bryan. He is a Glob Fly, no bite or sting, just an anoying buzzing sound that will eventually become bored with you and find someone else to pester.
It is a shame we are not allowed to swat Glob Flys.
 
I do not believe Mr Danktat owes this buyer anything. After four months, it could have easily been husbandry or another issue that killed this snake that had nothing to do with the seller.

I do not know either parties envolved.
 
Dank, at face value of the evidence and lack of truth from the OP, you owe him nothing. He hasn't even come back with a response to questions asked or information requested. Reads to me as someone trying to lay blame for their own inabilities oat your door step. Again, you owe him nothing!

Craig
 
danktat

i have been buying a lot of boas over the last 3months or so and gotten tired of sellers who dont claim any responsibility once they ship asnake. bryan was notified immediatley upon oprning the box the person who stated 4 mths is using erroneous information they got from whom. very interesting. oops. bryan claimed he would refund from the begining but cant be made to do it. after 300 in vet bills and the stress of having to do things like glue his skin back together after it came cff in my hand like a stocking, i feel i am not being unreasonable. bryan claimed at the death of the snake if i sent a photo cf the snake he would immediately send me a postal money order for a full refund. i sent the photo which clearly showed the markings and that it was obviously was deceased. his response was to quit answering his phone and not respond to my messages. to the dim bulbs that mindlessly came to his defense. i will gladly show the vet bills and photos i tooy while it was in my care.
 
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