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Bad Guy David Huffman of Virginia(BAD TRADE)

Here is a run in I had with him.....something just didnt seem right about the whole thing....sounded to good to be true....I always use my wife email address when approaching Cl deals....glad I did.
The message starts from the bottom up....700.00 for the pair...never bred...ya right
Travis
Lair of Dragons

My choice not to breed them. I was going to breed with my bumblebee male this year.
On Apr 23, 2012 3:33 PM, "JL" <[email protected]> wrote:
David,
Why you selling them, how come never bred...just strange to raise them to a nice breeding weight and not breed them...wouldnt want to ship...only meet.


From: David Huffman <[email protected]>
To: JL <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Pastel Female Spider Female

Id be willing to meet you halfway. Or I could ship them too you.
On Apr 23, 2012 2:14 PM, "JL" <[email protected]> wrote:
It a good deal but you are 3 hours away... one way.

From: David Huffman <[email protected]>
To: JL <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Pastel Female Spider Female

Stafford,VA 22556. I'm willing to meet.
On Apr 23, 2012 1:57 PM, "JL" <[email protected]> wrote:
Where are you located....

From: David Huffman <[email protected]>
To: JL <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pastel Female Spider Female

Pastel is 2,332, spider is 1,548 . Never been bred. Asking $ 400 each. Or $ 700 both.
On Apr 23, 2012 1:26 PM, "JL" <[email protected]> wrote:
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams


How big are they in grams...
Have the produced this year....
What are you wanting for them each and together.
 
He told me the pastel was a proven breeder. I was going to make a trade with him yesterday before i read all this. Definitely a stolen snake if you ask me if not its a male because he claimed to me that he didn't know how to sex a ball python. Lol right
 
That's a shame, the screenshot was too small for me to read anything on it. :( But past due means that he still has to pay, right? I'm glad that they have a record of his crimes at least.

yeah.. I could make some stuff out but not much. So I went to the trouble to track down the page from the court website to verify the info and saw he was convicted but hadn't paid his dues.
 
WOW!!! Grats guys! This is awesome!!!
I was once scammed purchasing stuff from ebay, paid over $400.00 of items and seller never shipped item.
Both paypal and ebay couldnt help, After long months of frustration and research, I tried internet fraud services, there associated with FBI.
About 2 weeks later, the seller shipped me the item and plus freebies and with huge apologies (phone call). Also internet fraud service agent contacted me making sure I got refunded or got items being purchased.
I think Internet Fraud Services can easily tracked emails, scammers if there in US. If its oversees your out of luck.
 
So I seen an ad for a big female Ball on craigslist yesterday in the dc area....Emailed them, and thought I recognized the name...but had been awhile since I read this and didn't think anything of it... So here's how the email convo went

(keep in mind that this was just for a big female normal http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pet/3020726571.html is the link for the ad)

Me to him...

Hey, I was just wondering if you were interested in any trades? I've been looking for a big female normal to have. I have a young (sold to me as a female, never had it checked) blood python that i'd be interested intrading for your female. How's your females temperment? She's very pretty. If you aren't interested in any trades, I apologize for wasting your time, if you are you can email me back at [email protected] as this email is my work email, and that one is my personal. Thanks!

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pet/3020726571.html


Him to me

I've axually been wanting a blood python.I would do that trade. She's cool. U can come pick her up anytime.



Me to him

Great, just two things...frst I have to talk it over with my girl friend and secondly, where are you located?


Him to me

Fuk it. Don't have time for games.

Me to him

Games? Ok, if that's the way you feel. Just wanted to see if you were even interested before I talked it over with my girlfriend. Who just texted me back and said she didn't care. With the way you responded though, it's no big deal...probably not somebody worth dealing with. I'll move on.


Him to me

Lol your choice.




So that was that. So I just left it at that, and posted an ad on craigslist stating how I wanted to trade a Blood Python for a het albino...the next day this ad pops up http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pet/3022782745.html

Notice at the bottom....same snake...but now it's het for albino...at this point I thought the guy was just trying to get me for my blood lol...so I had my girlfriend e-mail him and ask if he has papers for the het...

My girfriend to him

I was just wondering if you had paper work to prove the female carries the albino gene? I'm extremely interested in the pair.

him to her

I don't have paperwork. But I know for a fact.

her to him

Oh ok. Thanks but no thanks.

(at that point I was just trying to make sure that it was him, and the snake mystically went from normal to het...him having no paper work pretty much proved it for me...but then he tries to get cocky)

him to her

Just sold them. $ 100 cash. Each.

her to him

(my girlfriend obviously doesn't hold back at this point, she hates bad guys/scammers)

I highly doubt it. Considering I looked up your name and on a few reputable reptile sites you have made an awesomely shitty name for yourself. You also had the female listed earlier as a normal. But whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. Hopefully the animals you sell are going into better homes than you can provide. You make it obvious you aren't the brightest crayon in the box

her to him

U make it obvious your a geek, " buddy " lol don't email me.

Her to him

Don't worry. You'll get what is coming to you in life asshole. Take care!

him to her

U want me in your moms what ? A.. Hole ? Lol



So there you have, yet another example of him trying to scam people. This guy is just scum. Sorry, I know it's not exactly within the rules to just bash people, but he's a horrible person...and should probably be in jail.


The extras in the email were left out to save space and email addresses...if it's standard to add it all, I can...but I promise you I didn't ad or omit a single word in the emails
 
Yeah I've been seeing that ad on CL for awhile. It's in the Washington DC and Fredericksburg CL. He's currently selling a Normal Female for $60, a Pastel Male for $50, and there was a spider he had up at some point. He reposts it everyday. Good job Mark being smart about it. Glad you didn't get screwed!
 
I always laugh at my wife when she sits and reads for hours. Well she is the one laughing now. I happened to start reading this thread and, by golley, I was determined to finish it to see the whole outcome. Kudo's to many of you on here for what you have done for others. It is simply amazing to see unity in the good guys on this forum. I really hope this guy gets what is coming soon. Believe me I will share this thread everywhere I can as that is about all I can do to help from my locale. I am fairly new to the whole reptile breeding world and glad to see that there are still quite a few good guys out there looking out for one another.
 
WOW.....Its hard to believe that next week is the 3rd year anniversary of this post....and the worse thing of all that is hes still doing these things to our fellow hobbist. KEEP UP ALL THE HARD WORK flagging every CL post that looks like it could be him in that area!. Im sorry to see others find this post after the fact and now join the fight, and to all those that found this befor you were scammed....good job checking into him. Its sad to see the way the reptile hobby has been going for the last couple of years...people getting into things they care nothing about just for money....but they are getting pushed out every day because of sites like this and others. Plz, as people find info on him...POST IT!!! phone numbers, emails, addresses, car plate numbers...anything to keep track of him. It only takes acouple minutes to flag CL post. Im hoping someday this post will be closed for good. AND if he is reading this....told you we will never stop...lol
 
It's not just reptiles. This guy has his hands in a multitude of species:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...1.1.0.0.0.0.249.249.2-1.1.0...0.0.na6WBMCsyr0

Dang, I wonder if he is a dog litter thief... Ya know, the one's that come look, leave and come back at night......

In a Scarface tone..... Isssssssssss okay though. He'll hit the wrong house/fool soon enough! It's toooo small of a world! You always get to come across your equal at some point. Good luck to the Huffmaster then! :bluegrab:
 
I just recently read this "epic" a couple of days ago, and I'm glad that it saved me from a huge ripoff as I was looking to purchase some carpets het for albino from him. Luckily I remembered to check the BOI before even attempting contact. He's currently operating under the name "Vertical Reptiles"

Here are some links if you people want to exact some internet justice on him:

http://www.facebook.com/verticalreptiles

http://www.facebook.com/verticalreptiles/info

http://market.kingsnake.com/userview.php?uid=170765&v=a

Please do what you guys do to help prevent this guy from hurting someone else! :thumbsup:
 
This guy needs a swift kick in the rear.
I am so glad that the BOI is here and that more and more people are checking before purchasing. If we continue to be proactive, hopefully he will be put out of business. That might be why he is also "selling" dogs... not enough profiting reptiles any more.
 
I just recently read this "epic" a couple of days ago, and I'm glad that it saved me from a huge ripoff as I was looking to purchase some carpets het for albino from him. Luckily I remembered to check the BOI before even attempting contact. He's currently operating under the name "Vertical Reptiles"

Here are some links if you people want to exact some internet justice on him:

http://www.facebook.com/verticalreptiles

http://www.facebook.com/verticalreptiles/info

http://market.kingsnake.com/userview.php?uid=170765&v=a

Please do what you guys do to help prevent this guy from hurting someone else! :thumbsup:

That is Dale Huffman. This thread is for David Huffman.
 
Ya I saw that earlier but figured that he had gone by that name at some point. Its been a while since i read the whole thing. One thing we dont want is to give a good guy bad credit because his name is close enough to a bad guys name.
 
Looks like David is back in a new iteration: Amanda Senter (senteramanda). Attempted to post an ad for a Panda Pied with a pic stolen from ballpythonbreeder.com (Colin Weaver's site). IP matched his previous attempt at an alias (KingDragon).

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1640473&posted=1#post1640473

http://ballpythonbreeder.com/photography/quad-gene-combos/panda-pied/


Oh, and for anyone interested, do a google search on the phone number given. That's all I'll say about that.
 

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