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Info Dear Amanda Tanner

ok. that's fine thank you.

TO finalize this all

1. A few of the silkworms i sent to you died. I replaced you with eggs.

2. they got crushed by the postal stamping even though the eggs was only on a 1"x1" card.. but that's just too bad that it slipped toward where they ran the machine.

3. I am refunding you $15 like I said.

4. Some died over a span of time afterwards. You have to understand that is not DOA. But I shipped you free eggs anyway.

5. I have problems uploading the photo with the rest of the 100 live worms eating.. but as soon as I can fix I will post. I was nice to offer freebies, but I really cannot be responsible for what happens to them after they have been in your posession for days.. this isnt dragons but insect feeds.
 
Melinda said:
It has been my experience that almost all flat letter mail goes through sorting machines.



That would be dishonest and illegal.
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People soak stamps to get the adhesives off because they collect stamps, and that is the only way of peeling them off. But the ink still remains.

Sometimes letters do come through without inked stamps, and yes if anyone wants to reuse them, there is nothing unethical or illegal about it. They are still virgin stamps and technically still good by the postal worker.

Now I tell you WHAT IS illegal.. it is using USPS priority boxes and fedex-ing it!
 
Yeah ok a few died, you knew some were dead and the rest were dieing.. As I said that pics was taken minutes after I opened the box so they were NOT DEAD yet, but some did die that night ect..

YES they got crushed IN THE MAIL not by me as you say!!!

I'd like a full refund unless you are shipping out my order Monday as you first said....

And yes soaking stamps to reuse them is not right it's illegal and they are not even 50 cents each..

Again not my fault the eggs got crushed but what ever.. They were NOT food for my dragons they were to watch grow and look at..
 
Sent to:
Kimberly Woodring
Email:
[email protected]
Amount sent:
-$15.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$15.00 USD


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Date:
Jul 14, 2010
Time:
10:40:11 PDT
Status:
Completed

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Funding Type:
PayPal Balance
Funding Source:
$15.00 USD - PayPal Account


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refund has been sent for the cost of the silkworms.
 
joseydiann said:
They were NOT food for my dragons they were to watch grow and look at..
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Sorry to get involved with this squabble. But you expect everyone to believe that you where going to just keep them to watch and not use as feeders come on ..
 
ladysilkworm said:
People soak stamps to get the adhesives off because they collect stamps, and that is the only way of peeling them off. But the ink still remains.

Sometimes letters do come through without inked stamps, and yes if anyone wants to reuse them, there is nothing unethical or illegal about it. They are still virgin stamps and technically still good by the postal worker.

Now I tell you WHAT IS illegal.. it is using USPS priority boxes and fedex-ing it!
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Unfortunately, you are incorrect. It is illegal and punishable.
Title 18 U.S. Code Sections 471 and 1720

http://frwebgate1.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/TEXTgate.cgi?WAISdocID=2bhczK/0/1/0&WAISaction=retrieve
 
Sometimes letters do come through without inked stamps, and yes if anyone wants to reuse them, there is nothing unethical or illegal about it. They are still virgin stamps and technically still good by the postal worker
According to the USPS, it is illegal/federal crime to reuse stamps whether or not they have been cancelled. I did not take the time to dig up the actual regulation, but here's the approved poster.

http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/posters/pos5.pdf


I found this Reading Rainbow segment informative. They have newer machines now but it's basically the same. Also note the lack of sorting employees looking for the "fragile" stamp and there are many sizes of letter/envelopes that go through the sorting machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpayiRaM86E
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Yes Craig I was truly honestly going to watch them grow and change into the Moth and she knows that as we talked about it and yes maybe some day down the line I might use them as feeders but that's if I ever get the chance to grow some..

But now I was alot more interested in just watching them, they are pretty cool little guys!
 
Melinda said:
Sometimes letters do come through without inked stamps, and yes if anyone wants to reuse them, there is nothing unethical or illegal about it. They are still virgin stamps and technically still good by the postal worker
According to the USPS, it is illegal/federal crime to reuse stamps whether or not they have been cancelled. I did not take the time to dig up the actual regulation, but here's the approved poster.

http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/posters/pos5.pdf


I found this Reading Rainbow segment informative. They have newer machines now but it's basically the same. Also note the lack of sorting employees looking for the "fragile" stamp and there are many sizes of letter/envelopes that go through the sorting machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpayiRaM86E
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Thank you for Melinda for digging this up. I guess I've seen the clerk stamping on it personally and there it is done..
meanwhile I was so puzzled on how it can crushed.. meaning you had to deliberately crush it to get them to smash that way.

Also, I wanted to save the customers $ by including the shipping myself. But I guess I really cant afford to dothat now!

Btw, I dont use a dish for the reason that I let the moths breed and lay eggs in natural pattern. The dishes dont work very well because they glue the eggs down overlapping and on the wrong edge. So a lot of the hatchlings cant get out. A moth never overlaps eggs and comes on a nice cardstock paper. Now, I have to charge them for $4.95 flat rate. Oh well... see, chow is expensive as it is and having it shipped is worse. So I bag leaves and pack full of them for the trip. Its tiring picking leaves and all that, but it saves the customers a lot of $. Shipping anywhere for $6 48 states and includes food to eat. Mike bought jumbos from me and he has 4 cocoons now and still has left over leaves in the fridge!
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joseydiann said:
Yes Craig I was truly honestly going to watch them grow and change into the Moth and she knows that as we talked about it and yes maybe some day down the line I might use them as feeders but that's if I ever get the chance to grow some..

But now I was alot more interested in just watching them, they are pretty cool little guys!
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yes they are cool little guys!! I dont feed them off.. this is strictly a hobby for me..

I have customers including WV and Michigan telling me they have trees in the backyard and they are educators. I also have cocooning kit that I may throw in as a bonus for buyers later if they are interesting in breeding them. I isolate strains and mass produce them for a purpose, but my website designer has not delivered the site he has promised so far...soon all the kids in US can have silkworms and all the dragon owners can now breed their silks for free! Am I not contracting the profitability of my own biz??
 
Amanda, please do not send me request for the shipping cost of $5.50.. I already refunded you $15 out of $20.50 for the silkworms.

I had my products reshipped from coastal. He charged me reshipping.
It would not be fair for your request.
 
joseydiann said:
Yes Craig I was truly honestly going to watch them grow and change into the Moth and she knows that as we talked about it and yes maybe some day down the line I might use them as feeders but that's if I ever get the chance to grow some..

But now I was alot more interested in just watching them, they are pretty cool little guys!
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My last statement was just coming from a keeper who uses silks as feeders for most my reptiles and couldn't see having 150 just to watch. I have let a few go in to the pupa stage and turn to moths. Only had one successful breeding from them. So I can see how you would like to after thinking about it. Glad you two have came to agreement and settled this dispute .
 
ladysilkworm said:
Sent to:
Kimberly Woodring
Email:
[B]tanner_girl82[/B]@yahoo.com
Amount sent:
-$15.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$15.00 USD


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Date:
Jul 14, 2010
Time:
10:40:11 PDT
Status:
Completed

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Funding Type:
PayPal Balance
Funding Source:
$15.00 USD - PayPal Account


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refund has been sent for the cost of the silkworms.
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Who is Kimberly Woodring? I thought your name was Amanda.

In the thread below, Nancy makes reference to Amanda not being a real name.....I thought that was against the rules.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186925
 
You two crack me up.. Hurry mods hurry come to their rescue! The two BOI police women are at it again!

For your information, I have been a member of this site since 2004 I was gone a while when I came back I ask a Mod about using my Mothers paypal because I live with her and do not have a bank account of my own. I do believe he said there was NOT a problem with that.

This has been discussed in many other threads as well, and I believe you both have posted in them about the Kimberly thing..

So before you go running to tattletale like children maybe you should wait and find out some info first?

Kimberly is my Mother!!!!
 
I would love for someone to show me a Mulberry tree in WV or at least a few hours from me anyway, because they are not here, only the white one in one county and not near me!
 
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