Jela's Phat Phibs
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I will try to make this as concise and to the point as possible as to prevent any rambling. I responded to this ad, on January 17th in regards to the male that I wanted for my very small, yet specific breeding colony.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222092
Corky makes mention in ALL of his ads "To get ahold of us quickly please call or text us at 1-734-686-0803", so I text him that following afternoon (01/18). Within a half hour, we make a deal on this male for $260. He advised me that he had had a previous offer, however mine was for more so he went with me.
He was PayPal'd the $260 shortly after we agreed on the price (same day).
Due to inclimate weather conditions, Corky advised that we would need to wait until Tuesday, January 25th to ship for a delivery the following morning of the 26th. This was when temps were suppose to be optimal for both locations. I was a little concerned as temps were suppose to be in the 20's at my location, however Corky assured that he had shipped numerous packages this winter without any incident.
Let's move forward. Wednesday morning. Excuse the break in the clips. This was done on my phone and could only be emailed in sections. You can see by the splicing though that no parts are missing.
DISCLAIMER: Graphic Video
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/4/YPJjduJ6sOY
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/3/K1Vmyxt6Sy8
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/2/jLFYkfSRk7Y
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/1/o1uQF0udafA
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/0/ZNZ74SOhIx8
So immediately upon receiving the DOA, I text Corky as according to him, "To get ahold of us quickly please call or text us at 1-734-686-0803". No response. I then email him in the event that his phone is dead or what not. No response. I then begin sending him still shots of the deceased animal, via text pic. No response. It isn't until I email him the series of the above listed videos that I receive a phone call from him. Initially, Corky was very much on the ball and ready to handle the problem. He advised me of a couple of options.
Option 1: I could receive a cash refund, minus the shipping costs. I can't really understand why I would have to eat $45-$60 in shipping charges when I had done nothing wrong but this never had the chance to be an issue, as I wanted that particular dragon, not my cash.
Option 2: Corky offered that he would replace the animal with another, providing me with my $260 back in credit, as well as an additional $100 for my troubles. This sounded very reasonable and I appreciated the offer in light of my tragedy. I advised him that I was interested in adult males that would like as close to the one I purchased as possible or adult females. Corky advised me to give him a couple of hours and he would get back to me with what he had available in comparison.
A couple of hours later I receive an email with pics of (4) dragons. Two of them look to be adults, the other (2) sub-adults. He gives me the option of (1) of the adults or both sub-adults. From my assessment, both sub-adults weren't worthy of what I lost with the original purchase and I only one of them and one of the adults fit into my breeding project. I sent a reply back, with pics of the two that I was interested in and inquired whether or not he would entertain both of them as a replacement for the doa. I received a response back from him stating that he would send both as a replacement. I was advised that he would keep up with temps in both areas and contact me when it was the right time to ship.
Over the next couple of weeks, I bugged Corky, very little. He might have heard from me every 3-4 days at the tops. In the beginning, it was inquiring about genetic info on the two dragons I was due to receive and aside from that, I would send him an email saying, "hey, it looks like it is only going to get down to 36 degrees Thursday night so we should be good to ship on my end." This was always met with, either it was too cold where he was or it was snowing, etc. I never had any reason to doubt him and still up to this point, I trusted that he was going to do the right thing. Hell, I never even pulled up his weather on The Weather Channel online to see if he was being honest. I HAD NO REASON TO NOT TRUST HIM!!!
Enter, late last week. The entire nation seemed to be breaking out of the ice and snow or at least the weathermen were predicting and I emailed Corky about shipping the following week. He agreed that Tuesday shipping for a Wednesday morning delivery would be best for him.
Today, February 16th (almost a month after receiving my doa)
I received my package from Corky this morning at 9:43 am. I received another shipment from another seller as well but I opened Corky's first as I was most excited about what was in it. I open it up and the first dragon that I remove is the adult dragon that I was suppose to receive. Upon opening the second bag, I pulled this out...
I was suppose to receive this..
Since I was most excited about this one, I think that you can see where I would be let down with the other. The other appeared healthy, it just wasn't the one that I picked out and desired. I housed both dragons and moved on to my second package of dragons from another seller.
After unpacking the other order and housing them, I texted Corky as per his ad instructions, "To get ahold of us quickly please call or text us at 1-734-686-0803". I wanted him to first know that they both made it ok and in good health, however point out to him that one of them doesn't appear to be the one that I was wanting and was suppose to receive. So, at that point, I send the following text...
Me: Feb 16, 2011 9:57 AM
"Just received the package. They both made the journey. I think that u might have packed the wrong dragon tho. the smaller dragon was suppose 2 b a red tiger. This guy is orange and brown. He looks nothing like the pic u sent me."
No response. At this point, I am not concerned. I honestly thought that he was busy packing up a ton of dragons for shipment yesterday as he wasn't able to ship for so many weeks and that it was just an honest mistake. A couple hours later, I sent an email in the event that his phone was dead, basically alerting him to the same thing. Still not so much concerned. At the same time I also sent him (2) pic's text's, of the dragon that I was suppose to receive and a cell phone pic of the one that I did receive. At the same time I also started communicating with some of my good friends that are breeders and exchanged the pics with them to see what they thought. I knew that obviously they weren't the same dragon but I am not too proud to say that I could be wrong from time to time. In this instance I was not. They all pretty much laughed at me. It was apparent. I didn't divulge much of the details to either breeder at the time because there is no need to sully someones name when they haven't even had a chance to right the wrong yet.
At 1:03 PM, no response yet to email or texts so I send another text message.
Me: "I've emailed as well. I would appreciate a response in some form. Thanks"
Still nothing.
At 3:08 PM I text again
Me: "Please contact me."
This finally garners the response, "Sorry i just woke up im going to message u shortly k"
Great right? Finally a response and he is on it. Wrong. An hour goes by and nothing, no email, no text. So, I send another text at 4:10 PM...
Me: "Any thoughts??"
This apparently struck a nerve with him as at 5:34 PM, I receive the following email from Corky.
Re: Red Double Het MaleWednesday, February 16, 2011 5:07 PM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified"DiamondDen" <[email protected]>Add sender to Contacts
To: "Jeff Kennedy" <[email protected]>
Ok first I would like to start with please don’t blow up my phone like that if I don’t answer I will get back to you, I always get back to you so there no reason for it you woke my 1 year old son up 5 times and he’s sick right now and needs all the sleep he can get as he wont sleep at night right now. The red male het trans that you were sapost to get isn’t eating and has lost a bit of weight so I did not fell safe shipping him and I do not know if he will even make it at this point threw shipping, 5 days ago he eat just fine and then after that feeding he just stoped eating if a was lucky a cricket or a dubia a day so im thinking some of the crickets he eat that day upset his belly really bad. So I sent you my HOLDBACK leather from that same clutch so you will still produce that same babies well better now cause you’re a leather in the gen pool now to lol. I know I said I would do those 2 but before I said that and before you had asked me if I could do the “adult and a subadult” I had told you to pick 1 of the adults or both sub adults, So even tho I said that I still went ahead and let you have 1 of the sub adults anyways, but seen as the one you wanted stoped eating I sent you his bigger tiger leather het trans brother (my holdback) to make up for it even tho I was hoping to keep him for a future project I have going on with tigers so I hope you can understand.
WOW!!! Really?? Did that just happen? By that point, I was out to dinner with my fiance', happened to pull up my email on my phone while awaiting our dinner and see this utterly disgraceful response. Let's break this email down for a second.
In the first section, Corky want's to accost me for texting him when, per his own request, "To get ahold of us quickly please call or text us at 1-734-686-0803". Is it my fault that his son is sick and was up all night?? Join the club!! My son is sick as well as my fiance' at the moment but I still go to work and run my reptile business on the side very efficiently. This is what you chose to do!!! Don't gripe at your customer for trying to make contact with you to alert you to a potential problem!! What do you want to bet that if I was texting him, wanting to buy his $1,100 Silkback that he keeps posting all over the B/S/T every couple of days, that I would have garnered a much different response?? That in itself is unbelievable, but let's move on to the second part.
In this section, he knowingly admits to sending me a different dragon without my consent or approval. Now he try's to take the high road here and say how the dragon I wanted, quit eating and he didn't feel safe shipping it. I say BS to this!! More then likely, he moved it to someone else for more cash or it shed in that month and came out even more brilliant, color-wise and he wanted to hang on to it. If what you say is true Corky, let's see some pictures of this skinny, sick lizard!! The worst part is, had he contacted me and said, "Hey, I don't feel right shipping this guy because he hasn't been eating," I would have obliged and we could have gotten together on another dragon that fit into my breeding project. I asked Corky some questions during the ordering process as I like to pick different peoples brains to get their ideas. I am putting my money on, he thought that I was an idiot when it comes to dragons and that I wouldn't notice the difference in the two. Let's move on to the last part.
In this part, he mentions the obvious, how originally he offered either one adult or both sub-adults in lieu of my doa, not one adult and one sub-adult. Why are you bringing this up now?!?!? You agreed to send what you agreed to send!! How is it an issue now?!?!?!?!?
So, at this point I was shocked and appalled. I sent him an email immediately telling him that he was way out of line with that email and that I was too hot to even comment at the moment. He sent an email back basically admitting to no wrong doing and still harping on the fact that I texted him. What a joke!! At this point, it was apparent that he had washed his hands of the ordeal, so I consulted my buddies in the hobby and ran it all past them. It was unanimous that 1), they were absolutely baffled by it and 2), since Corky had obviously washed his hands of it and didn't even have the decency to contact me, then it was time to take it to the BOI so that everyone else can learn of my unfortunate experience with Diamond Den.
Corky has some really nice stuff for sale at all times but with customer service like this, is it really worth that chance??? Save your hard earned money for the folks out there that take you, the customer serious and want you to be happy with your purchase. They are out there. Corky just isn't one of them.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222092
Corky makes mention in ALL of his ads "To get ahold of us quickly please call or text us at 1-734-686-0803", so I text him that following afternoon (01/18). Within a half hour, we make a deal on this male for $260. He advised me that he had had a previous offer, however mine was for more so he went with me.
He was PayPal'd the $260 shortly after we agreed on the price (same day).
Due to inclimate weather conditions, Corky advised that we would need to wait until Tuesday, January 25th to ship for a delivery the following morning of the 26th. This was when temps were suppose to be optimal for both locations. I was a little concerned as temps were suppose to be in the 20's at my location, however Corky assured that he had shipped numerous packages this winter without any incident.
Let's move forward. Wednesday morning. Excuse the break in the clips. This was done on my phone and could only be emailed in sections. You can see by the splicing though that no parts are missing.
DISCLAIMER: Graphic Video
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/4/YPJjduJ6sOY
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/3/K1Vmyxt6Sy8
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/2/jLFYkfSRk7Y
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/1/o1uQF0udafA
http://www.youtube.com/user/JelasPyxieProject?feature=mhum#p/u/0/ZNZ74SOhIx8
So immediately upon receiving the DOA, I text Corky as according to him, "To get ahold of us quickly please call or text us at 1-734-686-0803". No response. I then email him in the event that his phone is dead or what not. No response. I then begin sending him still shots of the deceased animal, via text pic. No response. It isn't until I email him the series of the above listed videos that I receive a phone call from him. Initially, Corky was very much on the ball and ready to handle the problem. He advised me of a couple of options.
Option 1: I could receive a cash refund, minus the shipping costs. I can't really understand why I would have to eat $45-$60 in shipping charges when I had done nothing wrong but this never had the chance to be an issue, as I wanted that particular dragon, not my cash.
Option 2: Corky offered that he would replace the animal with another, providing me with my $260 back in credit, as well as an additional $100 for my troubles. This sounded very reasonable and I appreciated the offer in light of my tragedy. I advised him that I was interested in adult males that would like as close to the one I purchased as possible or adult females. Corky advised me to give him a couple of hours and he would get back to me with what he had available in comparison.
A couple of hours later I receive an email with pics of (4) dragons. Two of them look to be adults, the other (2) sub-adults. He gives me the option of (1) of the adults or both sub-adults. From my assessment, both sub-adults weren't worthy of what I lost with the original purchase and I only one of them and one of the adults fit into my breeding project. I sent a reply back, with pics of the two that I was interested in and inquired whether or not he would entertain both of them as a replacement for the doa. I received a response back from him stating that he would send both as a replacement. I was advised that he would keep up with temps in both areas and contact me when it was the right time to ship.
Over the next couple of weeks, I bugged Corky, very little. He might have heard from me every 3-4 days at the tops. In the beginning, it was inquiring about genetic info on the two dragons I was due to receive and aside from that, I would send him an email saying, "hey, it looks like it is only going to get down to 36 degrees Thursday night so we should be good to ship on my end." This was always met with, either it was too cold where he was or it was snowing, etc. I never had any reason to doubt him and still up to this point, I trusted that he was going to do the right thing. Hell, I never even pulled up his weather on The Weather Channel online to see if he was being honest. I HAD NO REASON TO NOT TRUST HIM!!!
Enter, late last week. The entire nation seemed to be breaking out of the ice and snow or at least the weathermen were predicting and I emailed Corky about shipping the following week. He agreed that Tuesday shipping for a Wednesday morning delivery would be best for him.
Today, February 16th (almost a month after receiving my doa)
I received my package from Corky this morning at 9:43 am. I received another shipment from another seller as well but I opened Corky's first as I was most excited about what was in it. I open it up and the first dragon that I remove is the adult dragon that I was suppose to receive. Upon opening the second bag, I pulled this out...
I was suppose to receive this..
Since I was most excited about this one, I think that you can see where I would be let down with the other. The other appeared healthy, it just wasn't the one that I picked out and desired. I housed both dragons and moved on to my second package of dragons from another seller.
After unpacking the other order and housing them, I texted Corky as per his ad instructions, "To get ahold of us quickly please call or text us at 1-734-686-0803". I wanted him to first know that they both made it ok and in good health, however point out to him that one of them doesn't appear to be the one that I was wanting and was suppose to receive. So, at that point, I send the following text...
Me: Feb 16, 2011 9:57 AM
"Just received the package. They both made the journey. I think that u might have packed the wrong dragon tho. the smaller dragon was suppose 2 b a red tiger. This guy is orange and brown. He looks nothing like the pic u sent me."
No response. At this point, I am not concerned. I honestly thought that he was busy packing up a ton of dragons for shipment yesterday as he wasn't able to ship for so many weeks and that it was just an honest mistake. A couple hours later, I sent an email in the event that his phone was dead, basically alerting him to the same thing. Still not so much concerned. At the same time I also sent him (2) pic's text's, of the dragon that I was suppose to receive and a cell phone pic of the one that I did receive. At the same time I also started communicating with some of my good friends that are breeders and exchanged the pics with them to see what they thought. I knew that obviously they weren't the same dragon but I am not too proud to say that I could be wrong from time to time. In this instance I was not. They all pretty much laughed at me. It was apparent. I didn't divulge much of the details to either breeder at the time because there is no need to sully someones name when they haven't even had a chance to right the wrong yet.
At 1:03 PM, no response yet to email or texts so I send another text message.
Me: "I've emailed as well. I would appreciate a response in some form. Thanks"
Still nothing.
At 3:08 PM I text again
Me: "Please contact me."
This finally garners the response, "Sorry i just woke up im going to message u shortly k"
Great right? Finally a response and he is on it. Wrong. An hour goes by and nothing, no email, no text. So, I send another text at 4:10 PM...
Me: "Any thoughts??"
This apparently struck a nerve with him as at 5:34 PM, I receive the following email from Corky.
Re: Red Double Het MaleWednesday, February 16, 2011 5:07 PM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified"DiamondDen" <[email protected]>Add sender to Contacts
To: "Jeff Kennedy" <[email protected]>
Ok first I would like to start with please don’t blow up my phone like that if I don’t answer I will get back to you, I always get back to you so there no reason for it you woke my 1 year old son up 5 times and he’s sick right now and needs all the sleep he can get as he wont sleep at night right now. The red male het trans that you were sapost to get isn’t eating and has lost a bit of weight so I did not fell safe shipping him and I do not know if he will even make it at this point threw shipping, 5 days ago he eat just fine and then after that feeding he just stoped eating if a was lucky a cricket or a dubia a day so im thinking some of the crickets he eat that day upset his belly really bad. So I sent you my HOLDBACK leather from that same clutch so you will still produce that same babies well better now cause you’re a leather in the gen pool now to lol. I know I said I would do those 2 but before I said that and before you had asked me if I could do the “adult and a subadult” I had told you to pick 1 of the adults or both sub adults, So even tho I said that I still went ahead and let you have 1 of the sub adults anyways, but seen as the one you wanted stoped eating I sent you his bigger tiger leather het trans brother (my holdback) to make up for it even tho I was hoping to keep him for a future project I have going on with tigers so I hope you can understand.
WOW!!! Really?? Did that just happen? By that point, I was out to dinner with my fiance', happened to pull up my email on my phone while awaiting our dinner and see this utterly disgraceful response. Let's break this email down for a second.
In the first section, Corky want's to accost me for texting him when, per his own request, "To get ahold of us quickly please call or text us at 1-734-686-0803". Is it my fault that his son is sick and was up all night?? Join the club!! My son is sick as well as my fiance' at the moment but I still go to work and run my reptile business on the side very efficiently. This is what you chose to do!!! Don't gripe at your customer for trying to make contact with you to alert you to a potential problem!! What do you want to bet that if I was texting him, wanting to buy his $1,100 Silkback that he keeps posting all over the B/S/T every couple of days, that I would have garnered a much different response?? That in itself is unbelievable, but let's move on to the second part.
In this section, he knowingly admits to sending me a different dragon without my consent or approval. Now he try's to take the high road here and say how the dragon I wanted, quit eating and he didn't feel safe shipping it. I say BS to this!! More then likely, he moved it to someone else for more cash or it shed in that month and came out even more brilliant, color-wise and he wanted to hang on to it. If what you say is true Corky, let's see some pictures of this skinny, sick lizard!! The worst part is, had he contacted me and said, "Hey, I don't feel right shipping this guy because he hasn't been eating," I would have obliged and we could have gotten together on another dragon that fit into my breeding project. I asked Corky some questions during the ordering process as I like to pick different peoples brains to get their ideas. I am putting my money on, he thought that I was an idiot when it comes to dragons and that I wouldn't notice the difference in the two. Let's move on to the last part.
In this part, he mentions the obvious, how originally he offered either one adult or both sub-adults in lieu of my doa, not one adult and one sub-adult. Why are you bringing this up now?!?!? You agreed to send what you agreed to send!! How is it an issue now?!?!?!?!?
So, at this point I was shocked and appalled. I sent him an email immediately telling him that he was way out of line with that email and that I was too hot to even comment at the moment. He sent an email back basically admitting to no wrong doing and still harping on the fact that I texted him. What a joke!! At this point, it was apparent that he had washed his hands of the ordeal, so I consulted my buddies in the hobby and ran it all past them. It was unanimous that 1), they were absolutely baffled by it and 2), since Corky had obviously washed his hands of it and didn't even have the decency to contact me, then it was time to take it to the BOI so that everyone else can learn of my unfortunate experience with Diamond Den.
Corky has some really nice stuff for sale at all times but with customer service like this, is it really worth that chance??? Save your hard earned money for the folks out there that take you, the customer serious and want you to be happy with your purchase. They are out there. Corky just isn't one of them.