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Kinda why I said 'normal'... because this baby is a special case. I think the 7 days would work well for him :) Do you maybe have any Nutri-bac on hand to help him with the stomache flora?
 
I agree with DeeAnna as far as the post regurge feeding. Every bodies comments were to Doc's telling Angie that every 5 days is to much. Which for a regurging baby is to much but for a healthy snake, as Doc claims this one is, it is not to much. A healthy baby can eat a pink every 5 days.
 
Cat_Eyed_Lady said:
I dont think I seen anyone suggest just 5 days after a regurge...? The 'normal' process is to wait 10 days after a regurge and then a very small meal or just the pinkie head. Then wait 7 days and if all is ok, try 5 days. Sorry you think we are All wrong but statistically we cant All be Wrong.... Whatever :) this is the process I use after a regurge. :)
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Not sure why you are taking my post personally as I was not referring to anything you had said. My response was based on post # 361 and # 363 which did advocate sticking to the 5 day schedule.

The other real wild card is the definition being applied to a "very tiny pinkie" I have had customers describe pinks that were just under peach fuzzie size that way. Not saying that is the case here but that is the reason a gram weight would be useful.

A 7 or 10 day wait till the next feeding is a judgement call based on the post gurge condition of the animal. I will say that if you are unsure, it is better to err on the side of caution and use 10. Based on the description of the animal, it sounds like this gurge did not have a massive negative effect. The animal is still active and no mention of emaciation was offerred.
 
Little off topic but in line what John just said. Every regurge is different; there is no "set" protocol, just some basic knowledge with a little common sense. I've had baby corns gurge because they were ill vs a gurge while shedding. Two different "protocols" for a sick baby vs a healthy one.
 
He is not emanciated in any way. He still appears to have good body weight still. My definition of a very tiny pinkie is about half of a penny whne the pinkie is in a curved position.
 
If the snake regurged because he's "sick" it's doubtful he _will_ recover. Let's hope it was due to some environmental factor.
 
I am not going to go back and read all the other stuff over the last few weeks, so if any of what I say is a repeat, then sorry.

1. John at Suncoast is very knowlegable and has been doing this since Moses built the Arc (give or take a few years). His advice comes from years of experience so I would heed to it. I am not suggesting anyone isn't, I just saw he had posted and I know he is going to offer sound advice.

2. That said, I would wait until feeding at a minumum 7-10 days after the last regurge. The snake needs to build the acid back up in it's stomach to properly digest the food. Lack of that acid is what I think causes the regurging. Most snake keepers tend to think "Oh God, he puked, I have to get nutrition back into him" and they try and feed too soon. Think of when you get sick, after throwing up, you don't immeditely try and eat a sandwich or something. You drink water to keep hydrated and you wait until you feel like eating before doing so.

3. I noticed you are checking on him on a nearly daily basis, I would also recommend that your keeper check to make sure it is alive and then leave him be for a week. Drop a towel over the container to make it dark and turn the heat up a degree or two and then hope for the best.

Good luck!

dc
 
Camby said:
Think of when you get sick, after throwing up, you don't immediately try and eat a sandwich or something. You drink water to keep hydrated and you wait until you feel like eating before doing so.
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I normally eat a big fat burger and grab a Corona after I regurge, but I party you know me. :D

Daryl is right, maybe leave the snake alone more. Water every two days at most. Just a peek through the front of the bin to see how he is doing, but not open it. Or at worst open it the smallest amount possible.

Since he clearly seems upset (striking) try backing off a bit. I know you want to make sure he is alive, but you guys might be stressing him out.
 
Nope. Haven't handled him at all since he regurged.
We weighed him, and I HATE the old kitchen scales-the one I borrowed was a 30 year old one!
Anyway, when we weighed the snake, he weighed right in between 0 and 1/3 ounce, so now I have to ask the person we borrowed it from what weight it would be. Ugh.

Yup, we changed his cage to my friend's quarantine rack-he doesn't have any snakes in there and he thought he might feel safer in a smaller cage that's darker.
 
John, sorry you took it as I was picking on you. :( didnt mean it that way at all. Sorry about that. I have only been breeding for 6 years now but I have had corns for about 20 years. I am still learning :) Maybe was the phraseing?? Either way, sorry.

Angie and I have been 'talking' a lot since she got the little guy and with all I went through... well, I feel very close to her and the little guy. I want the very best for them. I just hope that I personally havent given any advice that the more experienced keepers would think was wrong. :/
 
Suncoast Herpetological said:
Not sure why you are taking my post personally as I was not referring to anything you had said. My response was based on post # 361 and # 363 which did advocate sticking to the 5 day schedule.

The other real wild card is the definition being applied to a "very tiny pinkie" I have had customers describe pinks that were just under peach fuzzie size that way. Not saying that is the case here but that is the reason a gram weight would be useful.

A 7 or 10 day wait till the next feeding is a judgement call based on the post gurge condition of the animal. I will say that if you are unsure, it is better to err on the side of caution and use 10. Based on the description of the animal, it sounds like this gurge did not have a massive negative effect. The animal is still active and no mention of emaciation was offerred.
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I actually had to look back. I get it :) I did reply to that one as well. You just said it better than I did :D Sorry again. friends? :blush:
 
reptilebaby said:
Anyway, when we weighed the snake, he weighed right in between 0 and 1/3 ounce, so now I have to ask the person we borrowed it from what weight it would be. Ugh.
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crotalis40741 said:
Had someone else do it since math is not my strong suit, and they got 9.44g
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If he is half way between the 0 and 1/3 ounce you could cut that number in half. Granted it is not accurate it is going to be a give or take without a gram scale. You are looking at about a 5 gram baby. That is on the lower end that babies hatch out at. Unfortunately that gives me less hope for him. When was his hatch date?
 
When we weighed him we put him in a deli cup on the scale, and he's definitely acting like he was! I REALLY want him to live-he seems like a fighter!
 
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