duane beattie rips off another victim

[critical bill]

Re: their's were the smallest?

Well you know what they say...

Assumption is the mother of all screw ups. If read thier posts you will see they made a ton of them although they wont readily admitt to them.

Chuck-

One point the couple has brought up is that they received the smallest of the chameleons shipped out at that time. How can they know the size of the lizards they didn't receive?
Andy Via

 

[spidey]

UGH!

All i can say is that this is unreal!! Chuck and Vicki, give it up!! or wait a minute, keep complaining!! Duane is selling like crazy!! WOOHOO!!
Duane, my best to you!! I hope this whole thing gives you a boost and makes you realize just how much of a good job you are doing. Also that there are good people out there that know when theyve found an honest and knowledgeable breeder and a person who does it for the animals not the cash!

I think this has gone on long enough!! Give it a rest everyone. Go watch a movie.

Good Luck...

Tom Bryker

 

[chuckdelph]

you GUYS the ones that keep sending the harrasing phone call too??????

uke:

 

[chuckdelph]

ANDY

YOU ARE RIGHT. They may have mailed smaller babies, and with these guys cheering them on. they will keep sending them. So readers if they agree with Duane, they would do the same. So watch for their names when ordering. If they admit subtracting 10 days from the size on the pictures when these little guys were put in a box is just to small, thats who will get the future orders.

 

[spidey]

What?

Not quite What reason would I have for calling you anyhow?

Im not that hard up for entertainment. I have a movie to get back to................just drop it......

nitey nite

tom bryker

 

[chuckdelph]

chris

duane leaves his PHONE# I got at 1pm, which is 10AM my time and he doesn't come back to the phone# I got till late. He also screens his calls, probably because of other bad deals. Chris you can't talk to someone if they don't pick up the phone. You can leave a message and I left lots, I BET HE WON"T LET YOU HEAR MY MESSAGES OR THAT FIRST PHONE CALL. HE BRAGS HE HAS. Chris, you see that baby sleeping,in the last picture both feet on one side , the kids call her sleeping beauty, I had placed her there for that picture, 10 seconds earlier, 3 walked away she laid down and closed her eyes, did your babies do that ? would you buy babies that did that ? did you feed your chameleons with a dropper? did you water your chameleons with a dropper as well as mist. CAUSE , personaly thats not what well started means to me. did they look to you like they were big enough to eat 3/8th inch crickets on oct 2, which would be 13 days earlier and 13 days smaller then the pictures show. There is no way!!!!

I was told by duane shipping is 40.00 read his last post he says I been shipping this way for years, AGAIN,I trusted him I WAS WRONG TO TRUST DUANE, and I am still paying for it. The care sheet didn't have any info about babies that can't walk It didn't contain info on how to bring back the dead 2 to life nor how to care for them if they can't stand or hold a branch, so his sheet was not much help and the phone # on it was never answered. Also I look back at my posts and don't see anywhere were I've asked Duane for anything. Its obvious to all the readers a guarentee by Duane means nothing. Look at his e- mail to me, they will be fine ,and they dehydrated slowly in a box . Again if you read my posts ONLY from the begining it would answer alot of your questions, and make alot more sense, and perhaps If you put your self in my place and think about how you feel with what I received, and what those babies suffered dehydrating. .............. It will keep you from making one sided judgements so quickly , and harshly against a victim, Which make me think wouldn't I have been better prepared if I had planned this like duane implies???????

 

[Duane]

Can Anyone Explain What This Quote From Vicki Means?


"duane leaves his PHONE# I got at 1pm, which is 10AM my time and he doesn't come back to the phone# I got till late."


Vicki ,
1) YOU made a mistake With How You Handled The Situation.
2) Not a soul I know would call YOU.
3) I have more important things to do that call you or send you emails or have anyone I know do the same.
4) You LIE.
5) Just FOLLOW the CARE SHEET I sent you and the rest of your ONE month old chameleons will grow to be healthy chameleons.
6) YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED ME AS SOON AS YOU OPENED THE BOX IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG. THAT is MY policy.
7) THE END

Duane

 

[critical bill]

Hey now...

Duane,

Why dont you just let it die already. Remember what I said about the cursing and dragging yourself to the gutter? Have you looked at your warning levels? You are being baited into this by a pair of loons who could care less about thier reputation. Do you? Show more class and stop pointing out the obvious that these people cant communicate very well.

This whole thread is far off topic. Maybe time to close it? And that suggestion is unlike me......everyone knows how I like to poke fun.

Chuck-

 

[chuckdelph]

DUANE , COME ON YOU KNOW

THAT YOU leave for your job or something and told me by e-mail I either call you before 1 o'clock your time or I don't talk to you at all. Even your buddies know you leave that number. and go somewhere else. duane ALSO IN CASE YOU CARE WHICH IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS YOU DON'T, THE LITTLE GIRL HAS JOINED HER 3 BROTHERS, AND CAN EAT AND DRINK NORMALLY NOW, AND NO LONGER REQUIRES 24HR CARE.

 

[chuckdelph]

READERS THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST WAS TO BENEFIT US ALL FOR THE FUTURE

THATS WHY FAUNA BOI IS HERE. THIS AD HAS DONE THAT IN SEVERAL WAYS. my only further suggestion is, for the reader to write down the names of the people that replied to these ads in a way they themselves do not want to deal with. and instead purchase from the many other sights. eg. don't like bill there is lots of other snake dealers that will actually care if your babies survive, seek out their ad instead the extra time will be so worth it. People paying 215 dollars for lizards want a baby that is healthy and strong and now I've learned overnight is critical for those that want the strongest chance of surviveabilty. and Duane doesn't do that ,he says "there is one way to ship, his way" SO BUY ELSEWHERE!!!! ITS WORTH IT!!!!. There are lots of caring breeders, that have been breeding chams constantly for 7 years. That will give you a much healthier baby. I know because I have recieved 127 e-mails from good caring breeders. AND purchasing from them instead will also protect you from the threats and warnings I'm still receiving

 

[chuckdelph]

i did not write those last lines clear

FEMALE CHAMS that have been bred constantly for 7 years non stop, without a break are exhausted. and this is cruel. THEY need time to recover and refuel themselves. WHICH how most breeders breed their animals, I know this ,because they write me. MY opinion, you will get a bigger stronger chameleon if you buy elsewhere.

 

[Wilomn]

Re: i did not write those last lines clear

FEMALE CHAMS that have been bred constantly for 7 years non stop, without a break are exhausted. and this is cruel. THEY need time to recover and refuel themselves. WHICH how most breeders breed their animals, I know this ,because they write me. MY opinion, you will get a bigger stronger chameleon if you buy elsewhere.

Well, they've now gone from baby killers to experts giving advice on how to breed the very animals they can't keep alive.

Frankly, I just don't know what else to say that can be said here. How about moving this one to hell where it can be addressed in a more, shall we say, user friendly fashion?

 

[Xelda]

Re: chris

Again if you read my posts ONLY from the begining it would answer alot of your questions, and make alot more sense, and perhaps If you put your self in my place and think about how you feel with what I received, and what those babies suffered dehydrating. .............. It will keep you from making one sided judgements so quickly , and harshly against a victim

You sure are asking for a lot. Most people here like to look at both sides of the argument. It's only fair to do so, regardless of who is friends with whom.

now I've learned overnight is critical for those that want the strongest chance of surviveabilty. and Duane doesn't do that ,he says "there is one way to ship, his way"

You were given the choice of USPS Express or guaranteed overnight delivery, and you chose the cheaper option. You were the one that made the decision.

 

[chuckdelph]

duane

If I get one more complaint of a friend saying your harrasing them we are going to court ,I have had it ,the calls are being traced by the phone company. KNOCK it OFF!!!!!!!

 

[Chris Anderson]

Vicki, Chuck or whoever I'm talking to this time (maybe your gym class this time),

Its time to put up or shut up. Stop making threats. I can't understand why Duane would be harassing your friends over this matter and if its over something else, why are you posting about it? First off, how did Duane get the phone numbers for your friends and why would he want to be bothering them about you? The only reason I could even imagin would be if they called him and started on it with him,in which case I'd ask why they felt the need to do that in the first place. Don't post stuff like this without all the information on what is going on. Don't make empty threats. You look ridiculous enough, drop it. I think Wes is right, send this thread to hell!

Chris

 

[chuckdelph]

Duane and his friends

duane, I have just called the police, If you attempt to call My place of employment again ,or the vet ,or my family ever again .I will be forced to file a harrasment suit against you. LEAVE MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS ALONE !!!!!!I have included all your info chris, and your four other friends , duane and janene DO not ATTEMPT to call or harrass you have been warned for the last time( ken the moderator this guy Is sick !!!!) I am tired of the harrasment I am giving a copy of this letter to the police to let them know I have reported his behavior to you and the whole Fauna org. when the next person has trouble with the BEATTIES its on you .

 

[Chris Anderson]

Excuse me? You've included all my information? Can I ask why you felt the need to report me to the police? Have I harassed you in any way, made any threats or done anything illegal or to warrent such action? The answer is no. You came here to post your experience and try to get help in your situation and myself and numerous others told you that we felt you were out of line. You are truly unbelievable

Chris

 

[DThomas]

Just received this and I feel the need to address it here, for all to see, as it seems to be a frequent request we get. It also seems some people need to learn the difference between private and public information. The only editing was the email address.

chuckdelph ( mailto:[email protected] ) has reported this post:

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http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=182281#post182281

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duane beattie rips off another victim
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=52981

This is the reason that the user gave:
My family is being threatend by duane and janene beattie you have wrongly put my city and other info in posts. I want all my info erased now !! ken posted my city info wrongly and is responsible. a copy of this is being given to the police

This message has been sent to all moderators of this forum, or all administrators if there are no moderators.

Please respond to this post as applicable.

Vicki, no information on any BOI post is going to be erased, PERIOD. The information about the city you live in that Ken posted was taken from the USPS website and as such, is public information.

If you do not like your information made public, then I suggest you stay off of the internet. Because once you log on, a whole host of information about you becomes accessible and is very open to the public.

 

[Ken Harbart]

Jesus H Christ, the stupidity is getting tiresome. You guys need to take that quarter from your pics, and use it to go buy yourselves a clue.

As I said before, I'm amazed that you managed to survive to adulthood. Reading comprehension was only the tip of the iceberg... the complete and utter lack of common sense is astounding.

I could care less what you want deleted. It's not going to happen, as we are not here to protect you from your own incompetence.

FACT: You posted two USPS tracking numbers. These contained zip codes and cities. If you don't want people knowing where you live, then don't go posting it in the public domain. How hard of a concept is that for you to grasp?

Christ, I wouldn't be surprised if the damn chameleons committed suicide after the box was opened and they saw who they were sold to. A quick death is far more appealing than a lifetime in the charge of someone without a lick of common sense.

It's folks like this that often get me thinking we should institute an IQ test as part of the registration process.

 

[LotsaPetsGarfHt]

OMG, who's harassing who? Who's stated they will use this forum to ruin who?

Duane "BUDDY",
Normally, I might offer to replace the animals with them paying the shipping, if the people appeared to be normal but I wouldn't send crickets to these people. I usually just give people like this their money back, I know its unfair to you but sometimes its just easier to bite the bullet and move on. Lets face it out of all those animals you've sold, its not worth letting people like this drag you through the mud. Fortunatly people like this are few and far between. I would only repay them for 2. Its up to you but this is what I would have done well before now. I know no one likes to be taken advantage of but its better to move on sometimes.

Chuck & Vicki,
You really don't have a clue do you? You are supposed to be teachers, and I believe teachers like you are the reason we have to home school our son. I'm not trying to insult you but if what I've seen here is an examlpe of your people and teaching skills its no wonder why our schools and children are in trouble. Your story has changed, so much since the beginning of this thread, its hard to sort the fact from the fable. The idea about the free ranging chameleons in the greenhouse probably isn't a good idea anyway.

I really couldn't tell you how many chameleons have actually died since you recieved them, first they were weak and sickly when they arrived, later 2 were dead when you recieved them, despite your efforts to save them. Think about that last sentance, it doesn't make much sense does it? Well much of what you have written here doesn't make any sense either.

In all honesty I don't think you deserve anything, but people like you aren't worth arguing with. EVERY time I have to deal with someone like you I just think about some of the nice people I've delt with, and promise myself that it will be a cold day in hell before you can buy any more of my animals.

John Chapek