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ed clark- liar, theif, bad guy- will you answer questions NOW?

OK, so I saw that, but thought there must be more to this than just the crested gecko deal.

So, did Ed ever figure out what Ball females he sent for the Geckos?

Wasn't there a mite issue too?

Dave
 
David Reid said:
So, did Ed ever figure out what Ball females he sent for the Geckos?

Dave
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Far as I remember Ed said he would "look into it" and then vanished from that thread. Never came back with any answer as to whether he actually sent her CB balls or "mistakenly" sent CH (that may or may not have been parasite ridden).
 
lanceheads said:
I agree with Kelli, however, Chuck bashing IS acceptable! LOL!
I would like to see the BOI get back to what it was intended. This WAS a pretty good thread until the Kimmel Kindergarten and his ilk got involved.
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I'm not surprised you waited till I was handed a vacation day to say what you did. And I'm not surprised you're a coward just like Clark.

Here's a story for you Dingle Berry. It was 1999, San Antonio, you and your partner had a table at a show close to the front foyer and a bit away from the main room. I stopped at your table and said hello. I checked out your animals but most of it was dogged out. At the end of the show a container with a snake was left on the vendors table right next to yours. He walked off for only a few minutes to do some post show deals. You packed up, the container magically disappeared. In such a hurry you and your partner were that you left your table banner behind.

I saw you, I saw it all go down. Now you must be wondering who I am since we met.

This ones for you brother.....

"Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Dingle Berry
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

Uhhhhm yeah...woo hoo...mean it....woo hoo...get down"

So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste

Uhhhhm yeah...woo hoo...mean it....woo hoo...get down"
 
Here's a story for you Dingle Berry. It was 1999, San Antonio, you and your partner had a table at a show close to the front foyer and a bit away from the main room. I stopped at your table and said hello. I checked out your animals but most of it was dogged out. At the end of the show a container with a snake was left on the vendors table right next to yours. He walked off for only a few minutes to do some post show deals. You packed up, the container magically disappeared. In such a hurry you and your partner were that you left your table banner behind.
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Are you saying that Randal stole a snake from his fellow vendor? Is that what you are saying?
 
Holy cow Chuck!
I have NEVER had a partner.
I wasn't at the San Antonio Show in 1999.
The first show I vended at in San Antonio was 2002.
I visited the San Antonio show in 2000.
I worked security for Bonnie and James in 2001.
Nope buster, not a coward, will meet with you anywhere to discuss this.

Randal Berry
 
KelliH said:
Are you saying that Randal stole a snake from his fellow vendor? Is that what you are saying?
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I'm saying that the vendor never did receive that snake back. That's what I'm saying. But Dingle did get his banner back at a later date..if I remember correctly.
 
lanceheads said:
Holy cow Chuck!
I have NEVER had a partner.
I wasn't at the San Antonio Show in 1999.
The first show I vended at in San Antonio was 2002.
I visited the San Antonio show in 2000.
I worked security for Bonnie and James in 2001.
Nope buster, not a coward, will meet with you anywhere to discuss this.

Randal Berry
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Youre right, it was the ETHS show in Houston. I just got you confused with another scumbag. An honest mistake with so many of you around.

Hows the coastal carpet doing? You still have it?
 
ok, Chuck - I tried to be tolerant, since Randal took a shot at you while you were gone, but this thread isn't about him. Take the side discussion someplace else.
 
hhmoore said:
ok, Chuck - I tried to be tolerant, since Randal took a shot at you while you were gone, but this thread isn't about him. Take the side discussion someplace else.
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Not a problem Harald. Apology for taking it off topic.
 
lanceheads said:
Oop's my bad!
Bonnie told me the first show I vended at in San Antonio was 2004.


Randal
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Try to comply with the request of the moderators, dingle, and keep your posts on topic.....ed clark-liar, thief, scumbag.
 
You know what this "conversation" reminded me of:

Miles Finch: [Buddy has just innocently called Miles an 'elf' because of his stature, and Miles is clearly very offended, and daring him] "Call me an elf".

Buddy: "You're an elf!'
[Miles attacks Buddy]

Apology for taking it off topic, but we need to lighten up!
 
Kimmel,
didn't vend at the ETHS show in Houston either in 1999.
Check with the ETHS and ask for their vendor list. http://www.eths.org/

Never owned a carpet python in my life. I'm a venomous snake owner/breeder, ask Kelli Hammack or anyone else that knows me.
Once again, you have been mistaken and once again, you have taken a thread off topic. This thread is about Ed Clark, not Randal. I apologize for doing the same, (taking this off-topic).

Randal
 
cka said:
I've gathered from this 22 page mess that Mr Clark is guilty of poor quarantine methods and short term memory loss. I can kinda understand confusing ch ball pythons with something you've bred yourself, especially if you are moving lots of different bp's.
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Chris, Emily paid for captive bred Balls and thats exactly what she recieved.

There is no confusion of CH and CB Balls.
 
cka said:
JMHO I would like to see a lot less of the "gay Jedi" type comments, not just here in regards to Mr Clark but in general. There seems to be a group of "BOI fanatics" that just wait for bad guy threads to inject their own brand of "humor", and it's not funny (well Ok, some of it is so I guess i'm guilty by "laugh association") and has ZERO to do with whatever the thread is discussing. If the BOI is to maintain any kind of credibility amongst the community the funny little comments, sly asides etc. really needs to be curtailed; they do NADA to help the BOI's purpose. It's real easy to be a smart@ss behind a keyboard...
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You bring up a very good point here. there are a number of folks that feel compeled to post in every thread with no real informatiom, facts or proof to advance the thread along. they will call names, post lies or just slam someone else that posted in the thread. there is an effort to try and stop those type of posters.

All that does is cloud the issue and make it harder to see whats important.

Yes, its very clear who the BOI fanatics are. they are the ones with no real information, just posting something because they do not like someone.
 
snake5007 said:
Calling Ed the names that describe him best don't do anything for me personally. A spade is a spade, afterall.
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You have been very critical of me with calling me names and such.

Please present some proof of these things you are saying.
 
Seamus Haley said:
I really, really didn't want to comment on any of this again, but there's something I feel needs some clarification- not saying that Chris got it wrong, just that there's a situation that's been colored very strongly in a way that doesn't make much sense to me.

Emily contacted Ed and told him that some animals she bought from him almost a year earlier had tested postive for parasites after a recent fecal. Ed responds indicating that he'd check his records to see what he sold her.

That was thrown out there as an argument that he misrepresented the animals he sold to her, but the way I read it at the time and the way that it would most reasonabally be interpreted- even with my distaste for the guy and some of the things he has done- is that he didn't remember the details of an individual sale and was going to try and figure it out. Some people saw this as evidence that he lied when he told her he was selling CB animals, but I find it much more likely that he just doesn't remember the name or email address of every one of the hundreds of customers he has in a given year.

Emily's response contained a direct... threat is the only word I can really use... of a BOI thread, "You make a post saying your animals are filthy (because she had it for ten months without noticing a problem) or I[/] will." Then things all got very ugly very fast and it became impossible to sort out what was factual and what was not; there was no possible way to wade through it all and know for certain, with no possible room for any doubt or error, if Ed should have been condemned or exhonerated of each individual accusation of wrongdoing.
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When Emily contacted me I was not sure what she had bought and wanted to be perfectly correct in discussing the matter with anyone.

There is no question that she recieved CB BP's that I produced.

And at that point there was no point in jumping into that train wreck of a thread because it had nothing to do with the thread topic any longer. it was simply posters calling each other names and arguing.

There was never a need for me to offer Emily advice on treating that BP as she had already seen a vet before she contacted me.
 
Cat_72 said:
And Ed, you are, as usual, completely ignoring the questions that I reposted from Daniel's thread....you know, the one where you say that Daniel paid for and received normals, and then said that he had received geckos that you got from Emily.....and then it was shown that neither did he buy normals nor were the geckos he received those that came from Emily.
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Cathy, there is no Gecko issue at all.

Emily did not misrepresent any of those geckos, I sent Daniel pics of the geckos and he liked them and payed for them and I shipped them.

If I want to sell a morph gecko for a normal because it does not meet my standards thats what I will do, but a picture is always posted for approval in advance.

I have sold many of my lesser quality reds as normals because I dont feel they are worth more than a normal one. if thats why you label me a scumbag or whatever....fine.
 
nice job twisting the story around to make you look better.where were your answers when this stuff went down?you're still a liar.
 
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