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Bad Guy ED CLARK what a piece of work!

Suncoast Herpetological said:
Apparently there are two John Martinos in the business. RMJ Reptiles in Jersey and John Michael Reptiles in Long Island.

Which one are you referring to Allen?
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I believe Allen is referring to John Martino.
About a year ago, I inquired about some phantoms John had for sale. Turns out he was partnered with Allen on the project and the animals would be shipped from Big Daddys. That was enough for me. I decided I didn't want to take a chance and since then have decided I do not want to chance a purchase from John in the future since his animals are co-mingled with Allens.
 
SPJ said:
I believe Allen is referring to John Martino.
About a year ago, I inquired about some phantoms John had for sale. Turns out he was partnered with Allen on the project and the animals would be shipped from Big Daddys. That was enough for me. I decided I didn't want to take a chance and since then have decided I do not want to chance a purchase from John in the future since his animals are co-mingled with Allens.
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I heard Big Daddy was selling mystics as phantoms. :shrug01:
 
Do either of these parties really have anything to gain or lose here?
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Really Ed? People are asking you ligitimate questions and your just full of smarta** remarks?

Could please simply answer the people...good lord...
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there is almost nothing higher on my list of dislikes than someone who avoids a direct, concise, clear, question.
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Seriously... you would think one of them would be interested in maintaining face, and at least trying to appear the bigger man.
Or would at least try to avoid stooping to the others level of immaturity.

Wouldn't that make you look more professional/intelligent/or even just plain likable?...wait..or are those bad things to be when running your own business? :shrug01:


Before seeing this nonsense, i'm sure there would ave been many people who considered making purchases from either party..
I'll admit Mr. Clark usually has some really nice photographs in his ads, and that gives his animals a clean healthy look.

*on a side note Mr. Belcher's photos usually look enhanced in his ads on KS .. anyone else notice?



I will never purchase an animal from either of these characters

Andy Jeffries
 
SPJ said:
I believe Allen is referring to John Martino.
About a year ago, I inquired about some phantoms John had for sale. Turns out he was partnered with Allen on the project and the animals would be shipped from Big Daddys. That was enough for me. I decided I didn't want to take a chance and since then have decided I do not want to chance a purchase from John in the future since his animals are co-mingled with Allens.
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That sucks if John Martino of RMJ is partnered with Allen. I bought my first bps (pastel and a spider) from John a couple of years ago. They're great animals - both take f/t and are (so far) very healthy and well on their way to making some bees for me.

If John and Allen are really partnered though, I will definitely not be buying from John again. Too bad as my first dealing with him was flawless.
 
big daddy's wholesal said:
Ed used to buy from RMJ (John Martino) ..... Now as some know John and myself partner on a select few projects together and that is how I am involved personally in this.
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John Martino 973-768-6340
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Hopefully, that will settle the question of which John Martino to whom Allen was referring.
 
Andy'sReptiles said:
there is almost nothing higher on my list of dislikes than someone who avoids a direct, concise, clear, question.
:iagree:
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You gotta understand, that's just how Ed works. It seems to be an incapability with him, even if asked nicely. And if you're a woman and ask him something, you might just get attacked. :yesnod:

Read some of his other threads, you'll see. :thumbsup:
 
I think it more falls along the lines that Allen doesn't have as much proof as he says. It also seems that Ed is afraid to say to much because he doesn't know how much proof they have.
 
Maybe a current summery would be helpful in case some members are just joining in.

Mr. Belcher says
Ed bought over $10,000.00 worth of snakes from us back almost two years ago now and has an outstanding balance of $7200.00
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Mr. Clark says
I have never bought anything from Allen Belcher, zip, zero, nothing at all.
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followed by some unimportant notes,

I'm bored :shrug01:
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10k,10k... yes I used to run 10k races all the time, how about you?
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Im the retarded version of the grinch who stole christmas
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And very helpful parable describing the situation by chuck kimmel,

Ed Clark and Allen Belcher both jump off a skyscraper holding hands. Somewhere along the decent they split apart.

Who hits the ground first?

WHO THE :censored:CARES!!!!
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:thumbsup:
Andy Jeffries:D
 
Thanks to all who offered to help

I would like to say thanks to all who offered to help with the situation. Contact has been made with Ed and we are waiting on a resolution which Ed has promised. As promised to both Ed and John There will be no further mud slinging here and the personal conflicts between Ed and us should be near an end. Sorry no to give details but I am a man of my word and my first post stated that I would not and did not want to go there. I am glad that it appears a resolve is close.
Thanks again for the help, and best wishes to all of you on this years breeding season!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772
 
Is that true Ed? Did you deny having anything to do with them, and then call and make a deal?

Nah, Not Ed Clark. He wouldn't do such a thing.
 
big daddy's wholesal said:
I would like to say thanks to all who offered to help with the situation. Contact has been made with Ed and we are waiting on a resolution which Ed has promised. As promised to both Ed and John There will be no further mud slinging here and the personal conflicts between Ed and us should be near an end. Sorry no to give details but I am a man of my word and my first post stated that I would not and did not want to go there. I am glad that it appears a resolve is close.
Thanks again for the help, and best wishes to all of you on this years breeding season!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772
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The 3 of you are still Scum in My book!:thumbsup:
 
Ed Clark said:
I have never ever bought anything from Allen Belcher.

Other than that I have been asked to remain silent, and I will.:bolt01:
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In other words, you have bought from John and do owe him money. You just didn't realize Allen was involved. :thumbsup:
 
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