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Eggs Good or Bad? (Pictures)

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I really would appreciate any insight as to whether or not you believe these eggs are good, bad, going bad, etc. Any help would be appreciated.

Long story short:
1. Pied female that I didn't even know was pregnant, turns out was.
2. I saw her coiled real tall, and ignored it for about 3 days.
3. Turns out she was on these 3 eggs.
4. She was in a cage with little to no humidity (Freedom Breeder rack with paper towels)
5. A different Albino female laid eggs as well under the same cage settings, but I found them I believe the day she laid them. They are plump, white and look normal.
6. The Pied eggs (mostly the top one) are all dimpled all over, and the top one has what looks like a water ring with liquid "leaking" or sitting on top of it. Under the egg it has purple/reddish ring.

So, bottom line...

Should I do anything?
Separate the eggs?
Is it too late?
Leave it?

Again both females dropping eggs was a big surprise, (I bought a group of balls, so they must have done the deed prior to me getting them).

They are in an incubator set at 87 degrees, in Sterilite tub, Vermiculite/Water combo equal by weight.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE, I appreciate it!!! Robert
 

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Leave them and incubate. I hatched 6 eggs late last season basically the same scenario looked worse than those do.

Don't seperate them.

Edit... now that I reread I am not sure about the one leaking. The other two look fine.
 
Thanks for the insight Ryan, I appreciate you taking the time to help out. I would be a big bummer at this point to lose the eggs. THANKS!
 
My personal opinion is that it has too much humidity, I recommend to you do it again the mix
with less water, it is best to always add a little water, than have to much :)
 
Leave them just how you have them. The more you mess with them the more likely something will go wrong. Your set up looks fine and the bottom 2 should be good to go. If the top one starts to grow a fungus you can sprinkle a little antifungal footpowder on it, but for the most part just leave them alone.
 
" My personal opinion is that it has too much humidity, I recommend to you do it again the mix with less water, it is best to always add a little water, than have to much "

This makes no sence to me. I incubate with straight water at 99% humidity and everything comes out fine. The only issue would be if they are in direct contact with water. Good luck. Keep us posted.
 
edenspets said:
" My personal opinion is that it has too much humidity, I recommend to you do it again the mix with less water, it is best to always add a little water, than have to much "

This makes no sence to me. I incubate with straight water at 99% humidity and everything comes out fine. The only issue would be if they are in direct contact with water. Good luck. Keep us posted.
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if you see the pictures carefull you can notice that the water is afecting the eggs look the wet spot, any big breeder agree that is better to add litte water every other weeks if you need, put to much water and kill the eggs, but in the end everyone has different opinions, whatever works best for you :thumbsup:
 
Ball eggs require high humidity, much more so then geckos, ect. By viewing the eggs in the picture I would " assume " that the wetness is either from leakage or an issue with the thickness of the shell, or perhaps it came in contact with water directly. Humidity itself could not be an issue with ball python eggs. If it were I would lose every clutch. ( note there is no substrate other then water. )
 

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THANKS!

THANK YOU to everyone for their input, I do appreciate it.

I think from what I am reading thus far, my feelings are to leave them alone and wait to see. If it grows fungus I will try the foot powder idea Matt suggested.

If only I could get my hands on the liquid band-aid product?? hum

I am glad to see Dorsey's picture of all water, no substrate... it helps.

Thanks to everyone: Matt, Alonso, Dorsey, Luis and even Steve for the humor.

Perhaps someone else has seen this before??? I will keep you posted on what finally happens. Robert
 
I have seen pics of an egg worse than your top one actually hatch. It may, it may not, but leave it be anyway and see what happens.

Also, try candling the eggs (use a strong flashlight in a dark room, and hold the flashlight up against the shell) and see if they have nice veins. It almost looks like that top egg has some veins in it, but it's impossible to tell without candling. It looks to me like you've had condensed water drip down on the egg (though the spot on the bottom most likely wasn't caused by that--is that the source of your leak?), and if that's the case, the egg may still make it as long as no more water drips down on it. I've had some eggs where water drips down, but the egg manages to hatch after I correct the problem that's allowing water to drip. If that egg candles good, keep an eye on it, and candle it again in about 3 days. If it still has veins, it will probably go full term, but if the veins are weakening/absent, the egg is going bad/is bad.
 
Thank you Pamela, I will try the candling idea too. I basically found the eggs under the mother in the state they appear in my pictures, having been in the incubator for 3 days now really hasn't made their appearance change one way or another.

I have only put the lid on the Sterilite container, no plastic wrap or anything... so there has not been any condensation in the tub itself thus far.

Thanks for your input!
 
Thanks Steve!
I have to admit that I honestly thought you were originally just pulling my leg... you know a little bit of ball python egg humor. If you have had success with this, then it is worth a try.

I mean if I can save 33% of the clutch with some liquid skin I'm game for it.
Thanks
 
hetsnowboa said:
Thanks Steve!
I have to admit that I honestly thought you were originally just pulling my leg... you know a little bit of ball python egg humor. If you have had success with this, then it is worth a try.

I mean if I can save 33% of the clutch with some liquid skin I'm game for it.
Thanks
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I wasn't kidding it works. let us know how it works out. :thumbsup:
 
Forget the link for the band aid though, you can buy it or liguid skin at any eckerd or rite aid pharmacy probably even Walmart or Target
 
I'm surprised the egg doesn't absorb the liquid band-aid or super glue and produce a 3 headed snake or some other unwanted birth defect?
 
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