And in further context lets play the numbers game, take a dealer who in the course of 1000 transactions over the past six months has one that goes to the BOI as a bad deal..... Is that a "Bad" Guy??? it is if that one is the only post of the 1000 that gets made.
I want to address this one specifically. Let's take this in context.
First, there is no concensus on what constitutes a bad guy. Read the threads with a little more attention to detail, and you'll find that everyone has their own opinion on this.
If someone sends out an animal that dies due to illness or poor packing, some buyers will elect not to deal with the person regardless of if they make the deal right with a refund or replacement. They just don't want to deal with someone who might screw up. Even more severe is the person who complains about a two day wait to get an e-mail response from a dealer, because the dealer isn't responsive enough, and starts a thread on them, even though they haven't bothered to even pick up the phone and call the dealer. There have been quite a few of those in the past.
Moving along, you get a bit closer to consensus with posts from people who have supportable, legitimate problems, which the dealer has refused to address. In some cases, there has been a communications breakdown, and the dealer wasn't fully aware of the problem. In some cases, the buyer isn't covered by the agreed-to terms of service. Usually, in both of those cases, the board members at large ask enough questions to get the whole thing straightened out. Sometimes these situations are caused by a buyer who posted in haste.
Then, you get the problems where the dealer flat refuses to make a deal good. Most of the time, it's pretty clear whether the dealer is responsible, and if the dealer is responsible, sometimes the dealer will make the deal right. Now, at this point, some people will say the dealer is a "good guy" because he
eventually did the right thing. Maybe the dealer was just being stubborn about making the deal right b/c he didn't like the buyer's attitude or felt the buyer jumped the gun by posting on the BOI. Well, some people will decide that a dealer who had to be brow-beaten into making a deal right is a "bad guy." To each his own.
Then, you have the dealer who's in the wrong and never makes the deal right. This can be delivery of goods/animals that were misrepresented, not shipping the product, sending dead animals/damaged goods, etc. I think in these cases, where the dealer was obviously in the wrong, that, yes, ONE time is enough for most people. However, there are those who would look at even these deals and buy from that dealer anyway.
Then you have the people who repeatedly fall into those last two categories, and exceed them. Your pet peeve seems to be Neil He falls into the repeatedly making bad deals and having to be browbeaten into correcting them category, as well as scamming the community category, as well as the sending an email full of bile and profanity about the members of the community to the wrong e-mail address by mistake category. That e-mail address, by the way, was mine. FWIW, I hardly ever comment on Neil, but I'll tell you this: WAY before any of the above came to light, I couldn't stand him. He just came off as far too annoying, loud, and stupid to deal with.
And that's really the thing that gets people labelled as a Bad Guy in most people's minds: Their own words. Look at the names that keep popping up, then read their own words. If you can honestly read these people's post and say that you don't think their reputations are well-earned, then you have a far different perspective than most folks.
But you know what? You're entitled to post that here. It's an OPEN FORUM. It serves its purpose. By making comments like the one I quoted here, you seem to be saying that you don't think the board works, and that it's biased. Well, you're wrong. You're proven wrong every time a thread is started and the questioning starts. I think Rich knew what he was doing when he chose this format.
