Erik Stoops. Center for Reptile and Amphibian research bad guy so far.

[Ghi Reptiles]

it's still ridiculous that any lawfirm would bother with this with all that I've seen in this thread.

Who says one actually is...lots of people have friends that are attorneys who will write letters for them.

 

[ravensgait]

Thanks Michael, I guess word travels fast....

Your right getting a Lawyer to type a letter isn't hard to do and it is usually done to try scaring someone off. Will be interesting to see how far this low life wants to take his lost cause.. Randy

 

[Ballroom]

What is amazing to me is that often people are willing to spend thousands more on an attorney then they can even remotely hope to recover from that hiring. I think that if people were just honest about their responsibilities with themselves and others they deal with we could all keep a lot more of our money...

 

[Ballroom]

Does Anyone know where I can get a long term captive Bormeo earless monitor??
Ben????

 

[Ghi Reptiles]

Again...who has said that he spent thousands on a letter? Erik is very resourceful as we have seen and the letter may have been drafted for almost nothing. If the letter is asking for a retraction of statements made by you Michael and it threatens legal action in the 'liable' sense...it's laughable at best. Any chance on posting what it says in a nutshell?

 

[BenSiegelReptiles]

earless what? what?? what?!!--I cant hear you!!

 

[dprince]

Who says one actually is...lots of people have friends that are attorneys who will write letters for them.

Very true.

 

[Ballroom]

Just wanted to clear up a few things. I know my long post was hard to read... Again I am sorry. I saved it in another format and copied and pasted it here.
In retracting my statements about Erik Stoops and His center in the post earlier. I do actually retract them. It is a bit like name calling.
BUT.
Erik Stoops Does owe me 2750.00 in cash or trade for an animal I sent to him that was in great shape, vet checked, feeding, shedding properly etc. This same animal died in his care several months later Now he is refusing to deal with me. He was refusing to return my phone calls and e-mails until this post. I have received no other new correspondence from him other than A letter from his attorney. has made no attempt currently to reconcile this situation....
P.S.
Just curious where did all the sponsors on the Centers web site go??
P.S. The Hypo Leaftail geckos on the sites projects page Were donated to the center Free of charge last spring... by me. the "Evil minded " one.

 

[John E Dove]

Just curious where did all the sponsors on the Centers web site go??

http://www.cfrar.com/
On the right side of the screen are the sponsors.
But all the names that were listed on that page are now gone from the site.

 

[Ghi Reptiles]

So Michael...what was the threat of action that was going to be taken if you didn't remove the stuff about him being a thief and so on?

 

[Ballroom]

Lawyers like to threaten that they will get the usual punitive damages , damages to lost business deals and their lost profits .

 

[John E Dove]

Let's face it if he could find a lawyer to take it to court the only ones who would get anything out of it would be the lawyers.
There is a chance that a counter suit would even force him to pay for your defense which would cost far more than what he owes you.

 

[Ballroom]

John,
Counter suits are usually counter productive. An honest attorney will tell you that a counter suit Just costs you more money. yet still gets nothing solved. Also Judges rarely award "Reasonable attorneys fees" these days at least thats what An attorney I know says.

 

[nora]

Hey Michael, did the letter from the attorney's office state who they were representing? Are they rep'ing the center itself, Erik?

I only ask cuz I'm wondering if a certain person *coughdonniecough* is the one behind all the lawyer writing a letter shenanigans.

 

[Ghi Reptiles]

I'm not a legal wiz of any kind Michael but how can you be threatened with suit due to lost profits when Don clearly states that, "The Center has a stellar reputation and 'we' do not sell animals but occassional trade surplus for desirable animals. Our program is about conservation only."

If their program is about 'conservation only' why would you be sued over their lost profits when according them they don't sell animals? How can you make a profit off of something you don't even sell?

Can anyone help me out with this one? Don?

 

[lanceheads]

I think the "loss profits" are donations to the center.

Randal

 

[Ghi Reptiles]

What Center? Is there an actual center like a Reptile Gardens or something like that? Do donations have to be reported to the government? I'm not up on the whole donation, non-profit thing...

 

[lanceheads]

Me neither, it was only a stab.

 

[nora]

What Center? Is there an actual center like a Reptile Gardens or something like that? Do donations have to be reported to the government? I'm not up on the whole donation, non-profit thing...

Well according to the website its a LLC. and the only kinds of companies that dont make profits are.. wait for it... non for profit organizations. =]

I'm not 100% on this but charitable donations have to be reported whether they're given or received.

 

[Jim O]

Well according to the website its a LLC. and the only kinds of companies that dont make profits are.. wait for it... non for profit organizations. =]

I'm not 100% on this but charitable donations have to be reported whether they're given or received.

Actually, most not for profit organizations are corporations organized as 501(c) organizations. Charitable corporations generally are 501(c)(3) organizations.