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Hello, I picked up a proven breeder pair of hogg island boas. I've wanted to breed these snakes for years.
I can't find any useful info on breeding. I would appriceate any info or pointers.
I want to make sure I breed this year and don't mess up. This is my first time!

I really appriceate your time. Here's a photo of the pair. What do you guys think of them?
 

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Look like Hog Island Crosses rather than pure Hogs. Definitely not pure Hogs (which, it is Hog, not Hogg).

As for breeding, there is plenty of information online (RedTailBoas.com has an Ultimate Care Guide in .PDF for that is informative) or you can purchase The Complete Boa Constrictor by Vin Russo which is also informative.

I am not trying to brush you off, but breeding takes a lot of time and research, not just a few generic answers.

It is something to be heavily considered. Especially in light that you would probably be making more Hog Island crosses. Is there really a market for them? To some extent I suppose, but would it be really easy for you to move out 15-30 babies? Maybe even more? I could not say, but I do not think so.
 
as far as I know, breeding hog isle isn't too different from other B.C. imperator localites. I have heard that it's not always as successful (from posts on this forum and others). My female will need another year or two before I try to pair mine up.
some breeding info at this link: http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/care_breedingboas.htm

I agree with Diem, those do not look like pure hog isle to me either.
 
PrismaSandBoaMorphs said:
I'm in dire need of help.
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Dire need? Of advice on how to breed snakes? Woooooooow
(I saw this thread during the night, and also thought that they weren't pure hog island...my attempt at saying so seemed rather curt, so I didn't bother posting; but I don't mind saying that I agree with what has been said)
 
I have the time and have been doing research for quite some time now.
So you don't think they are true hogs?
They are very orange, and I mean very orange. My flash on my phone takes a lot of color sway. I'll try to take another photo in the sunlight today.
I know you all think I'm wasting my time, this is something I enjoy doing.
As far as the ability to get rid of 20-30 babies, I have no problem doing so. I have a friend who owns a ball python shop who always sells my snakes for me in his shop, regardless of being balls or not, as well as multiple friends in the area that are asking for babies.
What would you guess thay are crosses of?
 
@AbsoluteApril
Thank you. I found the information that you have shared helpful.
I am really concerned as to what these two snakes are if you guys don't believe they are 100% Hogs.

If anyone else has some input, please feel free to share!
 
There really isn't much sense in asking for opinions if the photos you posted aren't representative of how they look.
As far as value, if they are are not pure hog island, they are worth no more than common boas...many would say they are worth less.
 
Can you ask the person you got them from what the parents were or where they came from? that's really the only way to know, the more info you can get, the better. Majority of people that work with true hog isle keep records of where they came from for lineage reasons.

In my experience, hog isles tend to have a white or creamy background color (there are exceptions). Those have more of the brown/tan background color seen in Colombians and other BCi localities. Sunsets are colombian x hog crosses, with the hypo gene involved.

My boa from RioBravo:
Egg4_2012a.jpg


you can find a ton more photos of my pair and other people's hog isle at these links:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268405
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194638
I hope that helps
 
I'll ask him what/where they came from.
Also, as I said, the bright orange my female shows makes me really wonder what the hell she is. It's bugging me.
I'll take some more photos right now so we can try to figure this out.
Thank you for your help!

Wow that snake is beautiful.
 
Here's 4 of 8 photos I'm posting of the female hog island that is in question of what she truly is.
 

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Here's the other 4 of 8.
Its hard to get a good outdoor photo of her because I won't let any of my snakes touch the ground.
 

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The coloration does not matter as that can carry over from crossing a Hog Island to a Colombian.

While the boas do exhibit pretty decent coloration, the Colombian characteristics are very obvious.

I am sorry, but the odds of them not being a cross are not good.

Let's say, in a perfect world, they are full Hog Islands. They are not very good examples of the animals and the value of them can decrease from that alone.

Unless the person you purchased them from can actually trace these animals back to pure Hogs, there is no real way to say they are pure Hogs.
 
Is there any way to do a dna test to see what they are or certain markers that I can tell by?
This is for my own sake of mind.
I'm not planning on selling their babies on here.
They will be going to a local shop and friends in the area.
I just want to know what genes these snakes hold so we know what future babies are labeled as.
 
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