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first time Hogg Island Boa Breeder

You could try contacting your local herp vet for DNA testing, though i dont think it will get you anywhere since hogg island boas are still classifieds as Boa Constrictor Imperator just like the common colombian red tail. The only way to really tell is if you have a record of blood lines from which you've gotten the pair from and even then their "pureness" is still up to the people who are buying and selling them.
 
Just to add to what everyone else said. Your boas appear to be part Hog Island, but whatever they are, they are most certainly not pure Hogs. No DNA test needed. About DNA testing of that nature, there is only one person that can do that in the country that I know of. I don't think boa DNA ranks really high on most people's priorities lists.

Anyway, my advice to you would be to keep your boas as pets and as a bit of a lesson into educating yourself about purchases before making them. I hate that you got taken in that way but breeding those boas would really not get you anywhere.

Chris
 
The color comes from the Hog influence, but it does not make them Hogs.

They are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them.

300.00 for a pair of adult, breedable Hogs is one of those "too good to be true" sort of things though. Quality adult Hogs will sell for more than that.

The ONLY Colombian x Hog pairing that is "worth" something is the Sunset or Sunrise. Damian Salgado of D&M Breeders coined this term when taking two Hypo Hog Islands (Hypo x Colombian crosses) and breeding them together to make Super Hypo Hog Islands which were, in turn, called Sunsets. The Sunrise are the Albino variation of these animals.

However, your boas are already crosses, and from unknown stock, so I am not sure that is a route you could go. It would be long and expensive anyway, seeing as if you bred a Hypo to one of your crosses, the percentage of Hog Islands would drop further.
 
If I wanted to breed them, do you have any suggestions?
Should I breed the pair together to chance getting more that look like hogs? Or should I breed them both with other BCI to make something?
Either way I want babies, which would be the best route to go with these two snakes?
 
You won't get babies that will look more like Hogs. If anything, the Hog blood will be diluted further.

I would not breed them.

They're nice looking animals, so I would keep them as nice looking pets.

If you breed them (I mean no offense by this, I am just being realistic), you'll just be creating more mutt boas that will sell for minimal or just become pet store animals.

300.00 isn't really the most expensive lesson to learn. You can try to resell them for what you paid for them.

Some people would just breed them anyway. It's up to you. I doubt anyone who responded in this thread would breed them.
 
"Yes they can, and they are the same species.
Look up Sunset boas, this is project that breeds hypo(morph) columbians to the hogs
This don't cross breed crap irks me. Especially from people who don't know the taxonomy of the species. There are only 2 breeders in the US that I know of to have pure HOGG Island locale BCIs. The rest are pretty much already been breed to other BCI locals, mostly Colombians, and that is where the hog(single g) started. Guess what? This is not even a subspecies hybrid. Now if red-tail refers to BCC or any other BC(sp) not BCI then you create a subspecies cross"
 
PrismaSandBoaMorphs said:
"Yes they can, and they are the same species.
Look up Sunset boas, this is project that breeds hypo(morph) columbians to the hogs
This don't cross breed crap irks me. Especially from people who don't know the taxonomy of the species. There are only 2 breeders in the US that I know of to have pure HOGG Island locale BCIs. The rest are pretty much already been breed to other BCI locals, mostly Colombians, and that is where the hog(single g) started. Guess what? This is not even a subspecies hybrid. Now if red-tail refers to BCC or any other BC(sp) not BCI then you create a subspecies cross"
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Your friend should be informed it's Hog Island, not Hogg, despite what he may think. They are named from the islands they originate from. And he is wrong. There are plenty of people that have pure Hog Islands.

As I stated before about the Sunsets, those are selectively bred animals that took years to create. Your boas are not Sunsets and it would take a long time and plenty of money to make them into Sunset project animals.

If you want to make more mutt boas, go for it. Like I said, I wouldn't do it and most people I know wouldn't do it.
 
I don't do it for a living, it is my hobby.

If my boas ever pull in enough money to pay for themselves, I'll be happy.

Just seems like you jumped the gun a little in your excitement. A little more research would have shown those are definitely not Pure Hogs. Like I said, you can try to resell them, but I don't know if you'll get 300.00 a piece for them.
 
Idk, according to my research, there is rarely a PURE hog island.
The gene has been known for quite some time and has been mixed with EVERYTHING.
Unless you have papers to go with your hogs, it's all up to the buyer/seller, no?
 
Pure Hogs are not as rare as people claim, you just have to find the right person. Most locality specific breeders do not advertise with anything more than word of mouth, so it is up to you to find them.

It is not a gene, it is a sub species of boa from Cayos los Cochions.

Papers are important, yes, but a Hog looks like a Hog expect when it is not.
 
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