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Fred Albury... BUYER BEWARE!!! BAD GUY!!!

Darin, the only thing I want you ("us")

to do for me(since you asked) is STAY OFF MY SIDE.
Thank you!

Albert Allblebaum
 
You know, all I've tried to do on this thread (and every other one, by the way) is to be fair about it. Albert shows himself to be anything but fair, so I guess I'm not on YOUR side Albert.

I'm on the side of truth, so that would make you on which side, Albert? Thanks for the classy response to a serious question, by the way!

These two are ONLY trying to attack Fred, no matter what he says or does. If Fred is truly a BAD GUY, he'll blow his promises he has made here. If he isn't, then these two have no reason to continue on him, but I have a feeling they'll keep right on plugging.

I guess I'll wait to see what actually happens before I say Fred is or isn't a bad guy. As for these two, I've already seen enough out of them to know.
 
Hey,

Is it "Albert Allblebaum" or "Albert Applebaum?" Real names are required here on the BOI, and I've never met anyone past the first grade that misspelled his own name like that! So, is it "Applebaum," "Allblebaum," "Kennard," or what????? That's pretty lame, I must say!

:laugh:
 
Correct me if I am wrong, (and I am sure some of you will) but isn't there also a rule here to post on an already existing threading vs. starting a new one such as Fred did? And didn't someone actually get a point for doing that?
So if we all abide by ALL the rules ALL the time I am sure there would be a lot more points out there.
Aren't points more of a learning tool for those who will not read the rules correctly as a gentle reminder?
 
The "Truth" is Darin....................

Fred already blew his promise - eleven months worth of promises. Are you capable of understanding that? As far as your claim that you are "serious" goes, I've read all of your posts here, I'm seen your sarcasm and pomposity, and I know that you are only trying to "stir the pot". The fact that this is the first thread I've posted to doesn't change the validity of my claims about Fred's conduct. Sorry, I know that you have posted more than me and feel that your comments are therefore more important, but you look stupid acting like Fred was a good guy after all if he finally makes good on these deals. Now let's hear your "classy" response.

Albert Applebaum
 
Hey Darin.................

It's the guys like you that don't have a leg to stand on that nit pick about irrelevant little issues like the mispelling of my name. Get a life loser.

Albert Apppppplebaummmmmmmmm

Ps did I spell "loser" correct?
 
Darin and seamush...

No matter how hard you try to divert the attention away from the real issues and focus on us, you will never be able to change the facts. This forum is about educating people as to whether or not they can trust a person based on there history and character. We all know that Fred will make good because HE HAS NO CHOICE!!! That will not make him a saint in my eyes, but I personally will not suffer from any outcome. Unfortunately, others will, maybe indefinitely. And to Seamus, Fred made a statement that totally contradicts the facts of the true event. If you can't see it, that's your problem. It's so obvious that I'm led to believe that you're just shooting from the hip for the sake of arguement. I will no longer beat that topic into the ground. If people choose to continue to trust Fred after all this, then they are responsible if they get hurt in any way. So Seamus perhaps you should lay off the meth and get yourself some sleep. Maybe you could return with a more civil post. Take care,

Chris Kennard
 
One more thing Darin..............

You are the kind of guy who is going to wait and see what happens before you decide whether Fred is a "good guy" or a "bad guy". Shame on you! Solely based on Landon's account of his dealings with Fred over the past ELEVEN MONTHS and Ann's dealings with Fred over the past couple months, you have no reason to believe that Fred could be a "good guy" right now. Are you too cowardly to pass judgement right now based on obvious facts? If Fred decides not do the right thing by Friday are you going to wait until next month, next year, next millenium to "wait and see"? As of right now Fred has effectively stole Landons money. He's been busted, thanks to this forum. If he decides to give it back by Friday's deadline the it's just a matter of returning something he stole. He is under extreme scrutiny right now. If he weren't, Landon and Ann wouldn't have the possibility to get back what Fred stole. I'd say Fred's a "Bad Guy" RIGHT NOW. How about you? What's your "classy" response?

Albert Applebaum

PA Any thoughts on the matter Fred. (After all nothing is stopping you from answering some of these questions)
 
I don't know how the rest of you all feel, but I'm about tired of the invective from both Anaconda Al and Boapit. I'm pretty much convinced that "they" are one and the same simply based on their writing style alone. But I will give "them" the benefit of the doubt.

But BOTH of you will cut out the invective and harsh language along with everyone else in this thread. NOW. I am very close to closing this thread as it is, so go ahead and keep it up. Everything that could be said by outside sources appears to have been said, so cut out the repeats. I've had to assess more warning points in this one thread than any 10 other threads combined. One of the participants is VERY close to the ban limit because of it.

Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.
 
As you wish. On a final note, Anaconda and I are NOT the same person. If you look under the user name you can clearly see that he is offline while I'm writing this. So long!
 
As you wish. On a final note, Anaconda and I are NOT the same person. If you look under the user name you can clearly see that he is offline while I'm writing this. So long!
Click to expand...


That's easy to accomplish.
Just log off one name and log back in on another.
(Are you an AOLer by any chance?)


Anyways, onto Fred.

He has made two deals that were slow out of how many hundreds or thousands in his entire career at dealing in reptiles.
That's a better track record than Wally World or Seers with their 100% satisfation guaranteed mottos!


Everyone let Fred have the time to get everything shipped off or not and wait for the two customers to post on it.

On another thought on the percentages of good deals vs. bad deals - even if this deal is not completed to the customers satisfaction, Fred will still have a better track record than the places mentioned AND since it is only two deals so far, it deffinately disproves him as being a habitual offender.


Webslave, it wouldn't hurt too many feelings to have this one locked untill the customers PM you to say the deals are finalized, so that they can post about the completion (or incompleteion) of the sales.
 
If I did that, then the original user name would read "offline" and the secondary user name would read "online" I'm not an aol-er. You're grasping at straws. For the last time, I AM NOT ANACONDA!!!!!!!!!!



CHRIS KENNARD
 
Did you know that if you have cable and AOL you can log on with two user names at the same time?
One person will show up as AOL and the other will show up as cable or any other high speed connection. In fact you can have a conversation with yourself and NOONE would ever know unless they contact AOL. Then you can log off your AOL counterpart or your other name and poof....only one of you is logged on.
(great I just told the scam artists of the world how they can do it)


Now one of these people wrote to me and called TRUCE.
I agreed.
I am just wondering why the other one left me alone as well.

And yes one of these people has AOL and the other has cable.


And no I am not saying they are the same people. I am just stating a fact as I know them. I am just stating details that might be part of a puzzle at a later date.....or maybe it is just useless details.


but since I have been accused of only attacking these two.

yes Fred needs to make good on the animals he owes these two.
He also needs to make good with anyone else in his life that he owes money to.
Think about all the people you owe stuff to and then make good on them.
 
Rozann,

You make a good point, and Fred SHOULD have a point added to his account for starting that other thread. I know why he did it, but it was a violation of the rules that should all be willing to follow.

The reason I wrote about Albert misspelling his name was not to be nit-picky. I misspell lots of things here, both because I just misspell them and because of typos. However, what I have never misspelled is my own last name. I have made typos on it occassionally, because two keys got hit instead of just one, but the keys involved in the two ways Albert misspelled his last name are relatively distant from one another on the keyboard, thereby making it unlikely that it was a typo.

Why is that important at all? Because, in my experience, the only people who have trouble spelling their own names are those who do not exist except as the alter-ego of another poster. I am not saying this is true about Albert (I have no way of knowing), but it is a pattern that holds true 99.99% of the time, and I thought it was interesting to note.

I have not picked anything apart. All I have ever done on this thread is ask Landon and Ann to substantiate their accusations, which Landon did and Ann explained why she didn't want to do. Fine. I then questioned why it was that two individuals have spontaneously erupted on this site for the sole purpose of attacking Fred. They have then turned on me and a few others, because we did not assume pure motivations for them from the beginning. Too bad.

Personally, if two "individuals" were stalking me all over the net, claiming that I was a liar about something, I would take them to task for it, proving myself to be truthful. If I were in Fred's position, that's what I would do. However, I am not in Fred's position, and grief is a funny thing. I cannot/will not attack a person for not expressing himself as I would have him to do in matters of family loss. It's just that simple. Does that make me gullible? Maybe. But if the two he owes money are willing to let him pay them back by tomorrow, and he does do that, who am I to demand otherwise??

You say I'm arrogant and pompous? Maybe, but I'm not the one making demands in a deal that has no concern for me. I'm not the one determining that it is my standard of justice on the net that ought to be accepted by all. You "two" are.
 
Sorry about the confusion that last post may cause.

Only the first part concerning her being right was addressed to Rozann. The rest was addressed to no one in particular, but meant for Chris/Albert to understand.

Poor proofreading on my part.
 
I am sure Fred will take care of both of these deals promptly and everyone will be happy (even if it has taken a year) Still, a couple of things come to mind.

1. Why is it that some people will jump on anyone else if they are not "Johnny on the spot" with a refund, but have had no similar treatment of Fred. I may have read a few sure Fred was wrong but they were followed by, but hey, he admitted he was wrong so its no big deal. Others have been lambasted for taking far less time to refund money or complete a deal. Why the double standard.

2. So far as I read, no one has mentioned the complete lack of business ethics when Fred had said I want to wait until I have all the money from all my deals and only ship once. (or words to that effect. It a far worse excuse in my mind than something like "I couldn't get to the shipper this week becquse my kid was in the hospital after being hit by a bus" Something like that would have gotten more than one "I have personal problems in my life too but it shouldn't effect the way you run your business. there is no excuse for not shipping on time" But apparently " I only want to go to the UPS station once so I waited 2 months" is OK as long as you have a solid reputation and aren't some new guy. Another double standard.

Fred, I am not saying that you did any of the above things (crying about refunds or delayed shipping) Just that many others here did, but they seem to not have a problem with someone of your status does something similar.

Steve Schindler
 
Steve,

Back on page two, I wrote:

" . . .I scanned back through Fred's writings, and this is what I actually found:

'If you want to have some reserved for you,I would require payment in full, with shipping costs included, and this money is non

refundable if you should choose to change your mind weeks from now. This assures me that you truly want the snakes, . . .'

From that, it appears to me that Fred was saying that the money was non-refundable if Landon changed HIS mind, not that a refund would not be given if Fred could not/would not produce the purchased animals. It's not Landon's problem that Fred has issues in his life, couldn't get the animals to eat, couldn't get FedEx to take his boxes, has now had to move, or is waiting on other payments to fulfill his obligations. I cannot imagine a court of law support a "non-refundable" policy of such a nature, but even if it did (stranger things have happened in the world of juris-prudence!), refusing to refund money in a situation like this would not bode well for Fred in the more important court of public opinion!"

So, there has been an issue made of the fact that Fred has been entirely too long in making this right, and I did address the fact that his excuses were not acceptable to anyone with a clear sense of good business practices.

However, let me address what you have rightfully raised: the time issue. If Landon and Ann had come on here saying "Fred has owed me money for almost a year," and Fred then came back with something like, "Well I'm still worlking on it," I would have jumped down his throat with both feet for not realizing how badly he was continuing to treat these people. However, that is not what happened. Fred basically said, "Yes, I was wrong in every way. Both of these people are 100% right, and I will fix it ASAP." Ok, so in the few days that the BOI has been involved in the discussion, Fred has done what a good guy would do. I can't say what has transpired in the past, because I don't know. Do you? I mean, Fred offered some horribly lame excuses, but he says that he was wrong for that and is now going to fix it. What else am I/are we supossed to demand from him, if Landon and Ann are satisfied?

I think Fred has hurt himself with all of this. Everyone can make a mistake, but Fred waited a year to fix his. I think that's entirely too long, and I would not have waited as patiently as Landon did! However, it IS being fixed. If that falls apart, that will be another story, but I can't really see the inconsistancy here.

If everyone who was rightfully accused here came on the BOI and said, "Yep, I'm guilty . . .I'll do right by my deal," I believe everyone would get the same benefit of the doubt until they were proven to be completely untrustworthy. But that's just not the typical pattern one sees here, is it?

I do not take what Fred's stalkers have posted as being weighted with great credibility. Though it is in part because of the subject matter for which they attack him (a family member's death), it is also because of the completely rabid nature by which they follow him around. One thread wonders full of great, swelling words of wisdom, telling us how things "ought to be" here on the BOI just don't impress me much.
 
Whatever fellas. I am posting under one name...Chris Kennard, plain and simple. Come on guys, you get pissed at people for making accusations without proof then do exactly that. I am not a computer wiz and I wish I was so that I could prove I'm not Anaconda. But why should I? According to you guys, the burden of proof is on you(the accuser). But is it really worth the energy to find out that you're wrong when you want so badly to be right? So please, continue beating this dead horse after you get proof(that we are in fact different people), if that's what you really want, and let's respect the wishes of the webmaster and stop the repetition. Enough said already. My apologies to the webmaster for entertaining this topic. It's the last time I will defend myself on this issue.


Chris Kennard
 
I'm tossing in a vote for locking the thread until either Landon or Ann has news to report. Digging through all of this excess verbiage to find out the outcome is too time consuming.

We all had the information we needed to make a decision regarding Fred's business practices way back when Landon posted his correspondance, and when Fred posted his reply.

As a buyer, I need to know only two things:

1. The quality of the animals.
2. The reliability of the seller.

The quality has never been an issue, but the reliability clearly has been. We've all got plenty of information to make our own decisions on that one, regardless of what each of us considers acceptable or unacceptable. The thread has done its job, and the only new information of interest should be the final outcome, for which a new thread can be started, when there is real information.
 
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