Glades Herp- Bad Guys

[cyberfrog]

It could have been Allen too, but who knows, I don't even thing SHE knows where she bought the snake.

 

[critical bill]

Killing an animal is a horrible thing, but it's no reason to stop loving them.

I'm no FBI profiler but.....that sure sounds like a serial killer in the making to me.

 

[snake5007]

I'm no FBI profiler but.....that sure sounds like a serial killer in the making to me.

I did wonder why he called himself the Herpinator.

 

[Miss Tuniwha]

I'm no FBI profiler but.....that sure sounds like a serial killer in the making to me.

HA HA HA.. "I know I killed them officer, but here, I saved my favourite parts! I truly do love them all"


ha ha ha

 

[SPJ]

Now now. Don't pick on Herpesnator.

 

[ravensgait]

Hey folks lets keep it some what on topic..
Randy

 

[critical bill]

Hey folks lets keep it some what on topic..
Randy

Yes sir...aye aye captain!

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

Alright.

First off, ive been wanting to warn people about Paulina for awhile, i wanted a reason to post though, and didnt want to just start some sort of thread like this without an actual reason. Yeah, shes thirteen... but personally i feel she is entirely responsible for the things she says and does at that age. If you can type/read and understand what is being said on a forum, and keep your own pets, you are responsible enough to own your words and actions.

i now have that reason. while some things might be repeated, bear with me. There's going to be many screenshots and these next posts might take a bit.

Awhile ago, as was stated in the thread earlier, paulina lied about a certain Beauty snake that she picked up at a hamburg show from an unknown vendor ( at the time)
she later was telling people in chat, that she thought the beauty was sick, and that it might have an RI. stating that she saw/heard bubbles.

We told her that it needed to go to a vet.
she posts about a week or so later, stating that the snake "died". Angered, several of us ( i forget who, but Myself included) Told her that she should have brought it to the vet when we told her. ( this also bled into chat when she was in there as well)

Later on, we found out that the snake was, in fact alive.( in chat ) I pushed her to take photos, to prove that she was telling the truth, with the date attached. She did so, finally admitting that she lied to us. ( laura posted one of the photos earlier in this thread)

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106967 - thread where she stated the animal died.

Basically, as others have stated, i am here to back up the fact that this girl lies... continuously and obviously without care. as will be evidenced later, she also lies about quarantine practices in which she stated in a BP.net thread that she quarantines for an extended period of time, but yet in another post, shows a ball python, and the beauty snake together.

On a thread on BP.net, i got angry at paulina for the usual BS she likes to pull, and stated that she is a liar. She responded with this. ( saved from the thread, and i believe an email before the posts were deleted, in where i asked to have the post that i created, for further reference later on) I believe it was Frankykeno that responded to me, and was so kind as to provide the post.

Paulina:

As far as I know, there was one instance, where I lied. And that was about my beauty snake, that I suposedly killed it ... Sheesh. I am not sure where else I lied about. And I don't have anything else to prove... For example, I have all the animals I say I have.. So what are the other instances? I'd like to know.

And what am I making up since you just said you had an "opinion" on this site... You know what you said... But what does it matter?

In response to her Signature on the BP.net forums, and seeing that she was again lying. i posted this (just a copy, save for the new link to the thread i linked to originally * server move messed up the old link*):
Myself:

"Oh? I thought you gave that ball python away? Why is it still in your signature here then? Or did you "get it back" from the friend because you are no longer moving to poland?

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106967&page=1&pp=5
( hopefully outside linking is allowed, if not, i can remove it)

But that whole thread was a lie. I count that as several instances. One whole BIG one if you wanna make it simple.

My point for even bringing up you lying, is the fact that you seem to like... Over exaggerating just a wee bit. But of course, thats just my perception of your online self. You are 13, so i hand it off to you just being young. ( and im just being a big ole meanine to the young'n) *bad Alicia you ogre! Stop picking on the wee ones!*

But anyway, back to the topic at hand, not only did you just supposedly kill it, but you also stated that it even had an RI. ( though i suppose that could be stretching it a bit, it certainly seems like it was a ploy for attention as RI would be pretty obvious when they get to the point of having to even kill the animal.)

I also seem to remember you mentioning that it had bubbles in chat, but that later, in chat where we asked you to finally post proof of the living snake, you said it was only a stuck shed. Youd think that would be quite hard to mistake. ( but of course again, i SUPPOSE we could account that assumption of an RI due to you being new to keeping snakes) But, im just pointing out the facts of the matter.

and...as for your last bit there you make absolutely NO sense? Why would you go on asking a question about why im hanging out about a site i HAD formed an opinion about, and then go on to say " but what does it matter" Opinions can change. And youre making my opinion of you, almost concrete.

darlin... I think you need to rethink whatever logic you might be using there.. Its seeming quite skewed."

That post, and possibly one of Paulinas was eventually removed from the BP.net forums.

I later dug around some more, and eventually found quite a few posts that had shown me inconsistencies with the words she has stated in past threads, on the BP.net forums, in chat, and in this very thread.

The first is the Date in which she got her Beauty snake. ( links for simplicity)
http://pics.livejournal.com/mooingtricycle/pic/000bk52q -Dec 1st she had the snake
http://pics.livejournal.com/mooingtricycle/pic/000bhwb8 - Jan 16th Showing a ball python, apparantly a male by the name of it ( steves that she supposedly gave away??) and the beauty snake on top of one another.

In another post:
http://pics.livejournal.com/mooingtricycle/pic/000bedge
in where she decided she was going to get a female ball python from some people. she states in response to a post about quarantine, that "she quarantines for two months"
But yet, seeing the dates on those photos ive linked to above, it seems she does not actually practice what she says she does.

She also states that she was going to see the vet for this animal as soon as she could.
She said her mother wasnt willing to bring her to the vet for the Beauty snake ( and Paulina never did go, for that animal) so how on earth would she make it to the vet for THIS snake? ( Im not sure if she ended up getting the animal, as she never again updated that thread on the animal)
http://pics.livejournal.com/mooingtricycle/pic/000bfqr9 - stating she'd be going to the vet.

Did you even get that snake? did you do your half a year quarantine for that one? or your 60 day quarantine? did you go to the vet for it like you said as well??

She also said that she gave away a ball python male, the one that Steve ( SPJ) gave her, but yet, in this post here: http://pics.livejournal.com/mooingtricycle/pic/000bpggk
she speaks about her male ball python. Since she earlier, on BP.net said that "she has all the animals she says she has", and also if you look in her signature on BP.net you can see in the screenshot, she only has one ball python at that current time. what appears to be the male she recieved from steve, yet "gave it away"
In post #27 on 12/21/07 of This thread:http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106967&page=6&pp=5
she states its been given away.

But, remember! on 1/05/08 AND 1/16/08 she speaks about that male ball python.AND shows the photo of the male python with the beauty

So which is it paulina? did you give the snake away and lie to steve and other about giving this animal away, or do you still have it?

So paulina... you said "you only lied once of which you know" but yet... here... in this very thread, ive outlined just a FEW of the probably MANY times you have lied about your animals, their care, and your actions. Heck youve even lied about lying!

Own your words. Knock of the bullcrap youve been trying to pull... you arent fooling ANYBODY with this crap any longer. You might be underage, but you are CERTAINLY aware of your own actions. Take the responsibility for a change.

 

[richardduckworth]

someone needs to find this kid's parents. if my girls were pulling this crap i'd be furious and would sit them down and explain why i was mad, why it was wrong and why she should be totally ashamed.

gotta be a way to look up her parents' info to contact them and show them the thread.

 

[SPJ]

Alicia, is she still a member at BP.net? I couldn't find a listing for her in the members section? Do you know of any different photos she posted of the BP? I could ID it as the one I sent or not if I could see more than the head.

 

[SPJ]

Found it. She was banned.
The BP in the avatar on her profile is the one I sent her.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/member.php?u=6506

 

[critical bill]

Maybe I'm mistaken but, isn't this the same kid that was supposed to be moving soon to Poland? The same kid that gave away a bp that was given to her for nothing by SPJ...because she was moving to Poland?

If I'm correct....this could explain A LOT!!!

 

[SPJ]

This is the picture of the snake I sent.

 

[SPJ]

Maybe I'm mistaken but, isn't this the same kid that was supposed to be moving soon to Poland? The same kid that gave away a bp that was given to her for nothing by SPJ...because she was moving to Poland?

If I'm correct....this could explain A LOT!!!

You are correct.

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

Found it. She was banned.
The BP in the avatar on her profile is the one I sent her.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/member.php?u=6506

you got it. Thought for what, i know not.

 

[SPJ]

you got it. Thought for what, i know not.

Just trying to help out a newbie. I had a lot of babies that year.

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

Just trying to help out a newbie. I had a lot of babies that year.

i meant being banned

 

[critical bill]

You are correct.

So she lied then that the reason she was getting rid of her animals was because she was moving soon.

Anyway, does it really sound strange that a 13yr old polish girl accused the wrong person of selling her a sick snake? Cant even with any accuracy determine who sold it to her?

Being polish....I'll betcha she buried the poor thing alive!! All the dead ones are still in her tanks!!! Look mama...they are so tame!!! Can I get another???

No offense to my polish pals....I'm just kidding....but its true.

 

[SPJ]

This might shed some light on how the beauty got sick.
In this thread she states that she got a thin BP from a petstore. It was most likely and imported baby and who knows what it was carrying.
I doubt it went to a vet to get checked but she apparently was not home when the BP I sent her arrived and her mother put it in the tank with the petstore one.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54389
It also appears that the same petstore BP is the one in the pic here with the beauty snake.
http://pics.livejournal.com/mooingtricycle/pic/000bhwb8

Based upon the fact that she allowed the beauty snake to come in contact with a different species of snake (as well as the perfectly healthy one I sent her) Glades or any other dealer owes her nothing. She did not quarentine and possibly exposed the beauty snake to illness from the petstore snake.

IMO, she is out of luck and is not entitled to any refund whatsoever.

 

[SPJ]

i meant being banned

My bad. I thought you asked why I shipped her the snake.