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Which "horse" are you referring to? lol I thought it was funny when Sherry had a little chat with NERD...Kara seems riveted for the Dec. show!

ebayfish.com
 
EBay sorry I did not mention you guys in my previous post. It was great to meet you all! And thanks for taking some of our fliers to pass out. My offer still stands...Come hang out with us for the week end!

Cathy Elrod
 
Hey, Count, it was great finding out who you are! It was a perfect post on those a$$hole's message board. Actually, it was Kara who told me about your post. She and Kev seemed a little shocked to hear they'll be doing the December show. Of course, understand, they just could so not be here for the show this time because as Kelly stated: "...they were doing the FIRE show and afraid they wouldn't have enough stock for FIRE if they came to Nashville". Yeah....Kev and Kara running out of stock?? My butt!!!

Oh, let's not forget they were advertising on their website vendor that they said would be there who repeatedly told them they would not be at their show. Hmmmm...could Aquatic Critters be one of those??? Yeah, Aquatic Critters told them no...several times. Seems AC already had dealings in the past with K & T and had no intention of doing that show.
 
EBay- Did you find anymore of those little froggie things loose? They were kinda cute. But I'm amphibian stupid. I have no knowledge on how to care for any of them. Catching them was one of the most exciting things that happened in Nashville.
And how's your weather? Did Dennis cause you much damage, or just lots of rain.
Hope to see you in SC.
Cricket
 
Just weathering out the storm...well...not really. It's just raining off & on. I believe all of the firebellies were rounded up. Thanks for any of you cowboys (and cowgirls) that participated in the Firebelly Rodeo. I think I have handed out more fliers than if all of the original attendants of the show took one.

www.ebayfish.com
 
Okay, if they had intentions of making good on the bad checks, then why did they continuously lie to all the vendors? Kelly would tell everyone the radio people are on their way. They never showed up. Then she said the television people were coming. They never showed up. When asked about this, she said their having trouble finding it. The people who had supposedly bought the presold tickets were constantly ringing her phone for directions. BS!
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Yes Audry, total BS. I think there is overwhelming evidence that they were dishonest with you and some of the other venders. If I were in your positions, I know I would be very upset. I don’t think I would say very much if I had drove from Chatt to set up or if was one of the local venders, however, if they lured me in from NC or KS based on lies, that is an offence that probably would have carried a brutal cussing for Kellie and an ass whipping for Troy. I never trust rumor or hearsay, but the direct word from that cricket dealer is pretty compelling. He was really treated unjustly. I don’t think they had any intentions of making those checks good. I think they got into a position of owing much more then they had and past those checks to get out the situation. I concur with everything you said about the radio, TV, and pre-sold tickets. I see no other explanations then blatant dishonestly.

The only question up for debate as of now, is did they set out to defraud everyone, or did they have intentions of drawing 6k people and paying out the money for real. I attest to the latter because to assume they went into this with intent to defraud, you have to base that on the fact Kellie is willing to go to jail for less then $8000. I can’t rationalize that in my mind. She is willing to give up her freedom and her children for the amount of money she would make working a normal job for 16 weeks??? No question there was dishonestly and fraud, however, I think the original intention was to draw a heavy crowd, meet the obligations to the venders, and pay the venue costs from the gate. Very bad idea and of course it certainly did not pan out.

Of course, given evidence to the contrary, I am willing to change my opinion on that also.
 
First of all please get all the facts before you guys start casting stones.First of all I have not been dodging you guys I have been moving and Just got the computer back up and running. Secondly leave my children out of this they are just babies. And were taken care of by my roommate and his girlfriend all weekend.not left alone as some say. Sherry I would never Still from the shelter We only Made $40 on the raffle and you are more then welcome to call me and I will get you CASH. Yes I wrote a check to the expo center to cover the balance of the cost but made arrangements with him to pay him and am continuing to do so at this time. My husband said that he spoke to roark and things were taken care of with him but he has not contacted me directly and will be more then happy to talk to him and settle things with him if he is willing. as For everyone else i never ment to hurt or upset anyone and realy did expect a better turn out. as for the advertisement There was coverage on ther radio, newspaper, and t.v. and fliers, what else do you want from me. As for money lost before you guys start talking about what you lost let me tell you what I lost how about my house or my car and am still in debt and will be for months to come from expnces put out to make this show the best i could. I will do my best to resolve any matters with anyone all they have to do is call me directly and you all have my number.and yes I still would like to try and dust myself off and try again but right know that won't be possable. I only wished to get a good show going here in nashville and worked very hard with T.W.R.A. to do so and hope in the future thing will be different. I wish all of you luck in the future and will do everything possable to the best of my ability to do the right thing. Once again I am sorry.

As for you dennis you say we are bad people but why not mention how i paid your rent in your store so that you did'nt lose your kids while yoe were going to court and had to choose between your store and a house so you could get your kids back. or how i made sure you had food when you were sleeping in your store and had no money? Yeah I am such a bad person huh?

I hope you will all do better in the shows to come.

Kellie Wikel
 
If, and that means IF you meant to do the right thing and have a great show then why did you feel it neccesary to lie and boast incorrect numbers to people? As they had said they have no problem trying to get a new show off the ground but did not want to be part of a big lie.
 
Hey Kellie, glad you finally got in on this. I have to say, its seems pretty clear you misrepresented some things, however, I was not convinced that this show was intended to be a con. I hope all the misconceptions and tension can not be cleared. It should have been dealt with one on one from the beginning with everyone, but it was bright public here before that could be done. I think it’s in your interest to address everything publicly and end the rumors.

6,000 pre-sold tickets?
The exclusive clause with the one cricket dealer?

I started off trying to defend your position, but those two items made it impossible for me to do so. I would like to see you address those first. Thanks ---Chuck
 
Kellie,
I've done hit & miss shows before. Some I do well & others I have not even made expenses back. I'm never happy at the end of a bad show, but I'm never angry about it because I chose to give it a try. If you would have promoted this show more honestly, many of us wouldn't have been upset. We all know that not all shows are going to be great. But to intentionally mislead the vendors that did attend your show was downright crappy. You should have no problem paying your debts since you presold 6,000 tickets. And 15,000 people came through the door. You stood there & told some of us TO OUR FACE that the money you made on the presold tix bought our meals. Yes, you fed us well, but I'd much rather eat hotdogs or coldcut sandwiches and have a good turnout. I've done shows where they don't feed us at all. But if I'm making money, I can eat at a nice restaurant of my own choice after the show.
Running out on everyone before the show ended was also wrong. You should have at least taken the time to honestly explain to us why your show sucked so bad. You should have talked to Sherry about the shelter money, and you also should have talked to Premium Crickets instead of disappearing.
You constantly did nothing but lie all weekend. It started on your website before anyone got there. You'd have been better off not mentioning any presold tickets, or promising all those people through the door. I also understand that sometimes vendors can't make it to a scheduled show. But you told us about all these people that would be there on Saturday morning, although by the end of Friday, you were already moving us. Perhaps you feel that giving away free tables would make things better. What about our lodging & gas expenses? Not to count all the hard work, packing animals, and the long drive some of us had. You could have given us 100 free tables, but it's not worth it. As it turned out, most of us could have left all our reptiles at home, and it wouldn't have mattered. You can't falsely advertise shows like this one. As you've seen, it'll come back & bite you on the a$$. The media never even showed up at your show. You kept telling everyone they were on the way, along with the buyers of the presold tix. Can't find it, my phones been ringing all day from people wanting directions. BS Kellie BS! I do hope you make things right with Roark, Premium Crickets, and the rescue shelter. I hope even more that you spend some time behind bars for what you've done. What it all comes down to is this- If you said it, advertised it, or wrote it, it was a lie. We should have all done a background check on you to start with. You'd have been exposed long before the doors opened. You & your husband have quite a history of scandal. And now we were the innocent victims that fell into your nasty little trap. I also think The Department of Social Services should check you out. You said to leave your kids out of this, that they were well taken care of. Come on Kellie, you may have had a friend watching them at times, but they were also left unsupervised for long periods of time. Your husband also offered to give me your youngest child. I knew he was kidding, but I would not even hold that child with his diaper being so filthy. I won't even mention how nasty it smelled. Perhaps you would like to spend a weekend under those conditions.
You'll never get vendors for the Dec show. And you've already lied about some of the vendors that'll be there. NERD will NOT be there. And neither will any of the other vendors you'll falsely advertise. :toiletcla
 
KELLI you make it sound like you did everything for me! well i think you are forgetting i was there to help you for the most part i helped supply you with animals and caging suppliers and a wealth of info to help your business sucsessfuly grow maybe i was in a situation but the fact remains you owed me for months on caging and the rent payment was in consideration for that! i always wanted to think the best of you guys and did that as well because thats what friends do and by helping me in that instance it regained my trust in you both! now you dont need to prove anything to me it seems that if you can make good to all of theese other people that will prove your integrity! i will not post another word from here out! I figured once i got on here you would finally speak up! what happened to us is history just make good to everyone involved in this situation! good luck to you both and say hi to "BOB" for me!
 
You are wasting your time, Dennis. We quickly learned that she has an answer for everything. "Critically Compulsive Liar" is the correct term, I think. She's extremely good at it too. Answer for everything, and an excuse for everything. Yeah, she's done nothing but favors for everyone. She probably thinks we all owe her. You could sell me beachfront property in Nashville before I'd believe anything she says. I have to admit that she was very nice. That's one of the things that made us give her a chance.
Cricket
 
Kelli

I said from the beginning that I thought you wanted and expected a better turn out. As Audry said, while I would have been disappointed with the show's attendance I would not have been angry with you had you not been so deceitful. I talked with you three times the week of the show regarding all your concerns with the USDA and the sugar gliders. You knew that those details were taken care of but never mentioned to me that you decided to let another glider vendor in your show after you told me I would be the only one. You also told them that there would not be anyone else there selling gliders. You told the rodent guy he would be exclusive, yet there were two vendors with rodents. Premium crickets was screwed the worst. What if they had actually brought 1,000,000 crickets like you initially encouraged them to do? You were so anxious to get as many vendors there as possible you didn't care about the promises you made to them. Was it really worth letting DR. Death bring crickets into your show to have his dying animals there? I have been told on numerous occasions that these are the items you can't bring to a show (insert exclusive list here) because they had exclusive agreements with other vendors. My biggest problem withyou was not the shows poor attendance but your deceptiveness with everyone involved. If you claim you are trying to work everything out with those you screwed then what about the checks that were written on a closed account? To write a check that has insufficient funds to cover it with the belief that those funds will eventually be there is wrong but is completely different that writing a check on a closed account. With a closed account there is no intention, or possibility, of it being made good. You may be able to fix some of the things you did but you won't be trusted again because of the intentional, and continual, web of lies you spun.
 
Kelli

:hot: Kelli,

So good of you to show up. You say you would never steal from the shelter and for me to call you and you would get me cash. Now, Kelli, you certainly have my phone number. You called it several times BEFORE the show. You also have my email. I'm pretty easy to find, actually. Also, your very actions show that you did, indeed, steal from the shelter. Why else did you and your husband and kids just vanish without saying anything to anybody? Because you had no intention of: 1) giving half of the raffle money to the shelter; 2) paying Premium Crickets the $5,500 you owed him because of your promise to a) have him for the only cricket vendor and b) you would buy all the leftover crickets he had at the end of the show (and, boy did he have lots of crickets left over); 3) the check you wrote Roark...on an account that had been closed for more than a year. Yeah, girl, you steal and you lie. You are a very good liar because you can look someone straight in their eyes when you lie to them. That takes practice, girl, so I know lying is not new to you. You advertised vendors on your website that you knew would not be there because they had repeatedly told you they would not be there. Then, at the show, you tell people that NERD and other well-known breeders will be attending the December show, that the only reason they didn't come to this one was because of the FIRE show and they were afraid they would not have the stock for the FIRE show. Kev and Kara at NERD got a kick out of that one when I told them. I loved it when your eyes got so big when I told you they were my friends and I would call them and put in a good word to make sure they show up in December. You avoided me like the plague after that one. I'm not sure what you were trying to get from Ernie Lanier when I crashed your little party you and Troy were having with him, but I'll make damned sure he won't fall for it.

The check you wrote to Roark on an account that has been closed for more than a year is quite a criminal offense. I hope you and your husband do time for it...lots of time.

You want to give the money you promised to the shelter? Then you call me and make arrangements to get the money to me. Mail it to me?? Oh, hell no. It would be conveniently "lost in the mail". You may also consider paying Roark and Premium Crickets...and apologizing to all the people you screwed over.

Those of us who were at your show were not aware of your reputation prior to the show. We all know your reputation now: :toiletcla
 
That was very well written, Sherry. I wonder if they will be out of jail in time to start their next scandalous show in Dec.
Cricket
 
Thanks, Cricket. Reading her post just ticked me off. She couldn't get online because she was moving??? Out of the country???? And then she tries to act like she's the victim??? I don't think so. :angry: :nopity:
 
I will no longer be posting any thing to this site for those of you who wish to contact me you have my number. I can not and will not speek for troy only myself so if your issue is with him call him otherwise I wish all of you the best of luck in the future.

kellie
 
Kellie

I am still standing by our original agreement, you have 1 table to do with as you please. Just let me know now if you still want it because we only have 8 tables left and then we will be totally booked!

Sincerely,
Cathy Elrod
 
Cathy as much as I would Love to come to your show I have to much going on and also feel I won't be welcomed in this comunity any more and for the record I am willing to talk to anyone that has anything to say to me but can not speak for things that were said by troy.
 
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