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Has anyone dealt with Cameron or Ashley Glucheff

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I was selling a DH Ghost on reptibid, I know, I know, I should have spent the extra money and sold it on a reliable site. But anyway, apparently the buyer was only 15, and purchased him without the knowledge of his parents. The buyer had me ship the snake to a friends address, who I am assuming is old enough, but upon arrival I called the friend and recieved confirmation that the snake arrived and was fine. That was Tuesday, April 20th. I know the snake was free of any health problems and now today, I recieved the following email from the mother requesting the money back. I am refusing her, and I think this is some sort of scam being conducted by them. Has anyone heard of these people. thanks for your help.

Sincerely, and Honestly,
Scott J. Cotey

Mr Cotey,
My name is Ashley Gluhcheff. My son Cameron bought a snake from you online
and mailed you a money order for $350.00. When Cameron took posession of the
snake it was dead. I had him take pictures of the snake so you can see that
it is dead. He will email them to you tonight. Cameron is 15 years old and
cannot legally enter a contract to make purchases of this sort. He purchased
this snake without my permission or knowledge. I expect you to return his
money. You can mail it directly to me at :
Ashley Gluhcheff
16775 Joshua Rd
Apple Valley CA 92307
If you have any questions you can reach me at 760-221-8520 or on my home
phone 760-247-9505. You have 7 days to return his money.
 
One other Point of Interest

They had purchased the Dh Ghost under the business name of Coast to Coast reptiles. I had previously requested information on them from this board, but no one replied. Thank you,

Scott J. Cotey
 
Scott,

If my memory severs me wright there was another deal like this a while back I cant remeber who it was I will look and see and I am sure one of the other mebers will remeber it.
 
I don't know how good this will be.

User Agreement between you and Reptile Auction
The following is the user agreement as presented by Reptile Auction . you must agree to these terms before you will be able to sell items, or bid on them. if you do not accept these terms, please, do not use our services. once you click the i accept button below, you agree to these said terms of the user agreement below.

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Article 1. Eligibility of membership - This auction site is only available to people who are legally able to form binding contracts with you and the seller/buyer of an auction item. People who are of under age of 18 are not eligible for membership due to security precautions that can result as of those members. If you do not meet these requirements, you are not eligible to use these auction services.

Scott,

In order to use Reptibid you have to be 18 years of age. Cameron signed for an account with the site stating he was at least 18 years old. He obviously violated the terms of the agreement. Will that help your case? I don't know.

The boa was healthy and died in 5 days? You have to try hard to kill a boa in just five days!

Regards.
 
Defense???

Regardless of my defense, I have saved every email having sent and recieved with regard to this transaction. The so called boy, Cameron, requested that I ship the boa to Anthony Vasquez and I just called Anthony and left him a message, that he better get his story straight, because I have his confirmed voice message indicating that the snake was fine and doing great. What happened from Tuesday to Sunday, is anyone's guess, but I don't think that I am responsible, unless this snake was diseased which it wasn't. Everything about this animal was healthy, so I rest my case. I truly believe these people are trying to pull a scam.

Sincerely,

Scott J. Cotey
 
I truly believe these people are trying to pull a scam.

Scott,

It is possible. But in my opinion the real problem here is not with the health status of the boa, but with the fact that you sold an animal to a minor. What I'm saying is that you assumed he was at least 18 because that's what Reptibid has in their user agreement. The point I'm making is that Cameron did not tell the truth when he signed for an account with Reptibid. Again, will that help you? I don't know. Again, this is not about the boa dying in 5 days, or them wanting to pull a fast one on you. It is about you selling a boa to a person that cannot go into a legally binding contract because he is a minor.

Regards.
 
Actual Sale

The actual sale took place as a result of my posting on reptibid. No one purchased the snake at the reserve price. Then, I recieved an email from Coast to Coast reptiles, from Cameron and Bruce. Two people that said they wanted to purchase him. I entered into the agreement, with both, I recieve MO's from both, they split the costs, and I sent the snake to the indicated address of one Anthony Vasquez. Upon arrival, I confirmed the snake was alive and doing fine, so I am not going to deal with this anymore. I am not a business, I am a private owner, and entered into this agreement in good faith. The fact that he was under 18 should not come into play. Therefore, I am finished discussing this case, I only posted it to find out if anyone had run into these people. thanks,

Scott J. Cotey
 
I would think that them approching you as Cost to Cost Reptiles would be considered a business transaction. They did not approch you as two 15 year olds wanting a boa. They approched you as an established business. Did thier age come up in any communications you had with them before you shipped?
 
Just represented as Coast to Coast

The only correspondence was through email, and they represented themselves as Bruce and Cameron from Coast to Coast reptiles. I actually tried to get feedback on them from this site, but, based on the emails, I assumed it was an adult. My big concern is that the snake arrived at the shipment destination, Anthony Vasquez's address, and I received verbal confirmation that everything was fine. What happened between Tuesday to Sunday, I have no control over, or will I believe at this point. Thanks,

As I mentioned, I am dealing with my lawyer on this, as I am not a business but a private owner of boas, and I only posted on this site to find out if anyone has dealt with or heard of Coast to Coast or Ashley or Cameron Glucheff. I did not post to get everyones opinion on who is right or wrong. Thank you.

Scott J. Cotey
 
Scott,

I entered into the agreement, with both, I recieve MO's from both, they split the costs, and I sent the snake to the indicated address of one Anthony Vasquez.

They are more than likely not an established business but a couple of teenagers. If the MO was signed by Cameron then you sold a snake to a minor. Granted you didn't know about it and are only aware now because of his mother.

Upon arrival, I confirmed the snake was alive and doing fine, so I am not going to deal with this anymore.

Regrettably, and in this instance, it is not you who is going to determine that.

I am not a business, I am a private owner, and entered into this agreement in good faith.

It could have happened to anyone, but it's the way it is.

The fact that he was under 18 should not come into play.

But it does. Just as an example, if a liquor store sells alcohol to a minor they will be fined. They can also loose their license. They can't claim they didn't know about their age. It is their responsibility to find out. If in doubt they need check to check IDs. Check Mark Lucas' ads on KS, he always states that before selling a reptile he has the right to request proof of age. Why do you think that is?

It is not the first time we have heard of this happening to someone and it's probably not going to be the last. Sorry it happened to you.

Best regards.
 
The Emails

Since you are posting things about us, we decided to post all of the emails between you and my mother.

The first one Scott has already posted, so I'll start with the second.

Miss Ashley,

Number one, he had me mail the snake to a friend, who called me and informed me that the snake was fine and doing great. I am not responsible for what happened after that point, and you are now going to be reported to the Board of inquiry for your actions. Number two, your son and another gentleman named Bruce both purchased the snake, and I am not going to return any money based on the incident. I have proof that the snake was alive and well upon delivery, and I cannot help it if your son purchase something underage, or without your permission. Perhaps you had better keep better tabs on what your son is doing. If you would like to take this to court, I would be more than happy to oblige.

Sincerely,

Scott J. Cotey

Third:
I just attempted to call you, but received your answering machine. And I have decided that I will not discuss this case with you any further. I have acted in a responsible and professional manner, and the fact that your son is under age, doesn't matter. He represented himself as a business, and I have proof that Anthony Vasquez received the snake Tuesday, April @0th, and it was alive and well. So, your beef is with whatever happened after Anthony received the animal. Also, I would discuss proper business dealings with your son. To say that he is under age is no excuse, what if he went into a pet store and bought the animal, there are no laws concerning age that prohibit that purchase. So, I will not be dealing with you on this matter any further. If you would like to take it up in court, I will be more than happy to. One more thing, I am very upset that the snake is dead, because it was a very healthy, beautiful animal, so I am assuming that sometime between Tuesday and Sunday, someone abused the animal. And if that is the case, then shame on you people for your actions.

Sincerely,
Scott J. Cotey

Fourth:
Scott,
Pet store and reputable dealers give a 7 day warranty on snakes and other animals ( I can prove this in court). I feel that the snake was sick when you set it to him. I am not sure what the Board of Inquiry means but I am forwarding a formal complaint to the State Attorney General Office in both states. You can look forward to hearing from me because I will not drop this. As a teacher I am off during the summer and will make sure that this is taken to court. My father who just happens to he a retired Deputy District Attorney for San Bernardino County had offered to assist me in the matter. If you think I am bluffing about this you are more than welcome to call the DA office and verify this. I do have not problem taking you to court and I feel that you took advantage of him because of his age. I know that a minor cannot enter into such a purchase and I am confident I will win. Coming to your state is not a problem I will make sure that all appropriate court and legal papers are done. This is not a money issue but a principal issue.
Ashley

Fifth:
Mrs. Glucheff,

Your son Cameron and another gentleman by the name of Bruce, both represented themselves as a business, named Coast to Coast reptiles. My attorney has informed me that it doesn't matter that he was under age, he falsely represented himself as a legitimate business.

Thank you,
Scott

Sixth:
Mrs. Glucheff,

Attached please find the instructions from Cameron at Coast to Coast Reptiles, indicating the shipping address to Anthony Vasquez. I have all of my documentation on this and I look forward to seeing you in court.

Thank you,

Hey,
Alright I have the address for the person who will be recieving him. The address is:
Anthony Vasquez
346 N. Puente Ave.
West Covina, CA. 91790
His cell phone number is 626-641-5784. Just call him if you have any other questions. You can send him out this Wednesday or any time next week if you can. Thank you.
Cameron

seventh:
Scott,
Please forward me the name and address of your attorney. I will make sure that the proper documents are sent to him. I also feel that this is a scam and that you are the one that is the scam artist.
When you talk to your attorney make sure that he verifies that the Law in California and in most other states that there is a seven day guarantee of life on all purchased animals. This will hold up in court and I guess I will see you this summer in court. We have already planned a road trip and this will just be more more one stop on our 6 week vacation.

Ashley Gluhcheff

Cameron stated that he has all of the emails that he sent you.

eight:
Mrs. Glucheff,

Your son Cameron and another gentleman by the name of Bruce, both represented
themselves as a business, named Coast to Coast reptiles. My attorney has
informed me that it doesn't matter that he was under age, he falsely represented
himself as a legitimate business.

Thank you,
Scott

Ninth:
Mrs. Glucheff,

I await to hear from your attorney. thank you.

Scott J. Cotey

Tenth:
Scott,
I never represented myself as having an attorney. My father is an attorney and is going to help me with this as a family member. I need your attorney's info. I am requesting or was that just another "scam" . You are the only person who stated that they have hired an attorney.
Since we are posting this trasnaction on the website for snakes I have given Cameron my pemission to post all of our responses.
Ashley


So far, he has not responded so we do not know the name of his attorney. The only reason I posted this was because Scott decided we were going to. Here are all of the facts and not just what Scott says.
 
Scott,

In a correct world you did nothing wrong. It's a shame that the parents do not have enough responsibility to take care of their kids mistakes (I know as a kid my parents would have given you back the snake and I'd be figuring out how to handle my lost money, as I'd be the one in trouble for buying the snake not you for selling it especially at 15 (along with trying to figure out why my bottom hurt so much :D )).

In reality there is a hassle created that your lawyer will need to take care of for you (which, in my opinion, is the smartest way to handle it as that email from the mother looked toooooo "professional" to me). Thank you for the heads up on this group.
 
Response

I did respond to their request for my attorneys information, and I told them that I had spoken to my attorney, and that when I recieve all of their information on the lawsuit, then I will retain my attorney's assistance. Until then, I am not going to get involved, and let the lawyers settle the case.

Thank you,

Scott J. Cotey
 
I find it sickening

that parents put the blame on EVERYONE else, and take no responsibility for THEIR kid's actions. Why was the snake in question not sent to the kids house? Maybe, just maybe, because he bought the snake after his parents said no, you cannot buy it. That is a problem between the mother and the son, ground his butt. Take the money out of his allowance or something. As for you being a teacher......:(

David

Temecula, CA
 
Sounds like she needs to TEACH her son a thing or two. It is funny that she didn't have a problem with any of it and she wasn't herd from till the snake in question died.
 
Did they offer or supply ANY proof that the snake is actually dead? Pics or anything at all?
 
If this person is allowed to teach children, it might explain a few things about why our society is headed in the direction it is. If one of my sons had pulled this type of deal, I would be taking issue with my son, not the innocent seller who was duped. Lady, start to teach your kid more responsibility instead of trying to make excuses for him. Next he will be offering non-existent albino retics on reptibid, and you will still be making excuses for him. Parents like you make me sick.

Just sign me, "Sick & Disgusted"
 
Thia\s is so typical of parents nowadays. Blame everyone but "my innocent can not do anything wrong perfect angel."

Ashley, here is what YOUR son did wrong.

1. Falsely/fraudulently mis-represented himself as a legitimate business. HE did this because he knew he could not purchase a snake legitimately as a minor.

2. He went behind your back to purchase this snake then further hid his actions by having the snake shipped to his friend's house.

A good start would be for you to teach your son the meaning of the word integrity.

I would suggest you go speak with your father again about culpable mental states. Scott did not knowingly sell to a minor. He only did so because YOUR son LIED about being a legitimate business, lending to the assumption he was of age.

If you have photo's of the dead snake, why wait until tonight to email them. You can attach them right here in this thread for everyone to see. Instead of alot of hot air, lets see some hard proof.

And start supervising your son, he is obviously not mature enough to behave on his own.
 
The snake

You're right, this snake isn't dead at all. Look at this pic. By the way, I have frozen the body just in case.
 

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What day did the snake die?
And how was "Anthony" keeping?
What type of enclosure?
What temps was he keeping it at?
Did it have fresh water?
Did he try to feed it?
If so, what and did it eat?

You need to provide this type of information.
 
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