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Has anyone dealt with Cameron or Ashley Glucheff

A couple more..

Was the snake taken to a vet for a check up upon arrival?
If not, why not?
Did you have a necropsy done to find out the cause of death?
Again, if not, why not?

A necropsy could have proven you received the snake sick but a little late now since it is frozen if it hasn't been done.
 
My input

Also, I saved all of the emails between Scott and I. Not once did I mention I was a business in ANY of them. If he jumped to the conclusion of me being a business, thats his own fault. If I were you, next time I would ask for a proof of age. AND, this is not about purchasing without consent or anything like that, this is about a DEAD SNAKE. I don't know why it went from, "the snake died" to "shame on you for buying it". The simple fact of the matter is that we purchased a snake and it died.

As to why the snake went to Anthony, was not because I was hiding it, but because I would be at school and wanted somebody I knew and that had knowledge of snakes to recieve him.
 
Necropsy

The only problem with me taking him for a necropsy, is that the snake died before I was able to. As my mom stated, he died before I recieved him. I trust Anthony 100% with my snakes and would still let him care for any of them while I was away.
 
Re: My input

CGluhcheff said:
Also, I saved all of the emails between Scott and I. Not once did I mention I was a business in ANY of them.
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Then post them.

CGluhcheff said:
If I were you, next time I would ask for a proof of age.
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Next time, you should have your mother make the purchases for you. You shouldn't be buying animals, PERIOD.

CGluhcheff said:
AND, this is not about purchasing without consent or anything like that,
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Actually, it is part of it. It was your mother that is trying that angle to get money back.

CGluhcheff said:
I don't know why it went from, "the snake died" to "shame on you for buying it".
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Because you LIED to purchase the snake. Why should we just take your word for it the snake just up and died? Many factors could have led to the snake's death while in the care of your friend.


A necropsy is done AFTER the snake has already died. It may help determine cause of death.

You still haven't answered all my prior questions. You haven't addressed the husbandry issues, or how long Anthony had it.
 
Care given

Sorry, I did not notice your questions.

The snake died on Saturday April 24th.
The enclosure was a 20 gal. long.
The cage was kept in his room and he stated it was kept at preferable temps with a Zoomed thermostat.
Yes, he had fresh water and the bowl was large enough to soak in.
Yes, he ate. He ate either Thursday or Friday. I will have to ask Anthony to be positive which day.
He ate a small mouse.
 
A question...

How old is Bruce (your business partner)? You know Coast to Coast?
It sounds like you went in on a deal with Bruce and he received your snake.....then it died while in his possession. Did I miss something? You should seek reparation from Bruce not the person that you mis-represented yourself to.
 
Did you or did you not use the name Coast to Coast Reptiles in your correspondence with Scott?

Mis-representation is lying.
Failing to disclose the fact you are only 15 is a serious integrity issue.
Scott should not have had to ask if you were a minor. You should not have made the purchase without your parents consent AND involvement. Period.

Why did the snake stay with Anthony so long? I would be asking him why it died and holding him responsible for the snakes death, not Scott. He did tell Scott the snake arrived alive and healthy. You yourself stated Anthony has knowledge of snakes and that is why you wanted him to receive it. Was he wrong then that the snake arrived healthy? And an aquarium is a terrible enclosure for a snake. You can not easily keep prefered temps in one. Maybe your friend does not know as much as he would have you believe.
 
Standing behind a sale

We talk about how the son acted here, grant it, it was not the wisest behavior. But I do recall being that age myself. We talk about how our society is, but lets look at the issue here:
Cameron bought a snake. Scott believed him to be with a company (how he believed this I don't understand). For some reason the snaked died. Scott sells snakes, a private owner, does he have a policy he stands by? If the snake was to die in transport or with in so many days of having the snake?
In the state of California you have 7 days incase something happens to the snake. I would think in doing business Scott would offer so kind of warrenty on the health of the snake.
I do not believe the mother is wrong in wanting the money returned and if Scott believes this is a scam, why not work something out to where they send the dead snake back to Scott and he then replaces the snake, in doing these dealings with Cameron's mother, this way it is not with a minor.
The issue is not how Cameron acted or what kind of tabs his mother keeps on him. It's about a snake purchased and then dying. What is Scott willing to do other than being 'more than happy to oblige' to this going to court.
 
OK, LEt me get this all straight:

1) you have a reptibid account which is against their policy,based on your age.
2)you have a "partner" named Bruce who uses the same username coasttocoastreptiles.
3)you purchased a snake, and each of you (Cameron and Bruce) sent money orders to cover the price in full.
4)the snake was sent to the person who, for whatever reason, you told Scott to send it to.
5)That person is supposed to know snakes, and you trust him, and yet it was fed, and ate readily within 3 days. Who feeds a snake that soon after shipping?
6)THE SNAKE ATE just fine.
7)The snake dies after arriving alive, before it was delivered to you.
8)You had it delivered to Anthony Vasquez on Tuesday because you were going to be at school. Why was it not picked up before Saturday?
10)You say that the issue is not with your age, but rather with the snake dieing. Would your mom still have a problem with the purchase of the snake if it were still alive?

Who is Bruce?How old is Bruce? Who is Anthony? How old is Anthony?
 
Hey Maddog, you need to include your full name when replying to posts on the BOI. You may not have caught that rule having just registered today , to just come to this thread and post. Just out of curiosty, how did you find this thread so quick, and what made you decide that this would be the first place you ever post on fauna classifieds?
 
Re: Standing behind a sale

maddog said:
Scott sells snakes, a private owner, does he have a policy he stands by? If the snake was to die in transport or with in so many days of having the snake?
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Scott will have to address this but most TOS I have read give live arrival and 24 hr health guarantees.

maddog said:
The issue is not how Cameron acted or what kind of tabs his mother keeps on him.
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Abolutely it is. Cameron has already shown he can be deceptive. How can Scott truely know how well that snake was cared for? Boas are very easy snakes to care for and very hardy. IMO, that snake would have had to been showing some very outwardly signs of being sick to die that quickly. But Cameron's friend, Anthony, told Scott it arrived alive and healthy. How can we be sure Cameron is telling the truth now. He has no credibility at this point.
 
Me thinks me smells a rat. D Lawson, new member? Same lack of punctuation in the messages. The snake arrived at my friend's fine, but died before it got to me. The next thing you know there is going to be a message, "This is my mother, and I want a refund for my son".
IP checks moderators?
 
Could a mod check the IP of maddog and CGluhcheff. CGluhcheff signed off and maddog signed on and posted. Then maddog signs off and CGluhcheff signs back on. Very suspicious. Thank you.

If I am wrong, I apologize in advance. But we shall see.
 
If he jumped to the conclusion of me being a business, thats his own fault. If I were you, next time I would ask for a proof of age. AND, this is not about purchasing without consent or anything like that, this is about a DEAD SNAKE.
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Cameron,

The only problem is that although you say it is about a dead snake, you are now trying to use the proof of age thing to your advantage.

There are a few loose ends in the story. If the snake was sent sick and 5 days away from death would have more than likely not eaten for you. From what I'm able to see in that partial picture, the nutritional status of the animal doesn't seem to be bad. Furthermore you e-mailed Scott stating that it had arrived in good shape.

In MHO and even though the results might not conclusive (due to the animal having been frozen already) a necropsy might shed some light.

Regards.
 
attorney?

Just in:

Listen, I didn't say that I hired my attorney, I spoke to him. And you bring whatever case you want, the fact that Isent the snake to an adult, Anthony Vasquez, makes this a totally different case. So, I will await your court order to appear, and when I get it I will then solicit my attorney's assistance. Until then, have a nice day.

Scott J. Cotey
 
I emailed Ritchie Luna to get some IP tracking going on. I dont know if Scott is around, so while we wait for him to come back, I will go find pics I have of the snake Scott sent and see if it is the same one.
 
who am I?

I am a friend of the familys. So yes, they do know me. I am pointing out a few things that no one else has. Everyone has a right to their opinion and I have been reading everything everyone else has to say, so I just thought it right to post mine as well.
I have seen the snake and yes, it is dead. We do not know the cause of death. And I do not believe anyone is trying to scam anyone else.
 
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