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Has anyone dealt with Cameron or Ashley Glucheff
- Thread starter Scooter J
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Cameron asked the snake to be delivered to his friend Anthony. The snake arrived alive and died while in Cameron friend's care.
Thanks.
maddog
New member
ages
Like I stated before I am a friend of the family , so no, I can not tell you how old they are. I wish I could.
I would like to know from Scott, with his business of selling snakes, does he offer any kind of warrenty?
Like I stated before I am a friend of the family , so no, I can not tell you how old they are. I wish I could.
I would like to know from Scott, with his business of selling snakes, does he offer any kind of warrenty?
Scooter J
New member
I am not a business
I am not a business, I am a private owner that decided to sell a perfectly good DH Ghost, because I didn't need it in my collection anymore. I am going to attempt to breed some boas and produce Ghosts, and I have aquirred a Ghost, so I didn't need the DH Ghost any longer. As far as my warranty, I don't know how many people care enough to call the party that received the boa to make certain it arrived in good condition. Upon hearing that the snake was fine and doing very well, by Anthony Vasquez, I don't really know what my obligation is, unless of course they can substantiate that the boa died of some illness that ocurred while in my possession. But I have 8 other boas, and all are in very good health. I do feel bad that the snake is dead, but when I sent it, it was healthy, and when I talked to Anthony it was healthy. I don't think that it is my responsibility if something happened after Anthony Vasquez received it, and it died. IF it is my fault then please tell me how it passed on, and when. I don't think anyone else reading this can say that this sounds strange. I sell a snake to someone claiming to be coast to coast reptiles, to a pair of guys, claiming to be partners, and they have me send it to a friend, who states that it arrived fine and is doing great, and then suddenly it dies. It apparently ate according to Mrs. Glucheff, and then all of a sudden it is dead. I personally would not want anyone that is receiving my boa to feed it, I would think that the snake could wait until it got into the rightful owners hands before feeding it. But, then again, thats just me, and I trusted a company, coast to coast reptiles, that apparently is a kid. Sorry!
Sincerely,
Scott J. Cotey
Thank you,
Scott J. Cotey
I am not a business, I am a private owner that decided to sell a perfectly good DH Ghost, because I didn't need it in my collection anymore. I am going to attempt to breed some boas and produce Ghosts, and I have aquirred a Ghost, so I didn't need the DH Ghost any longer. As far as my warranty, I don't know how many people care enough to call the party that received the boa to make certain it arrived in good condition. Upon hearing that the snake was fine and doing very well, by Anthony Vasquez, I don't really know what my obligation is, unless of course they can substantiate that the boa died of some illness that ocurred while in my possession. But I have 8 other boas, and all are in very good health. I do feel bad that the snake is dead, but when I sent it, it was healthy, and when I talked to Anthony it was healthy. I don't think that it is my responsibility if something happened after Anthony Vasquez received it, and it died. IF it is my fault then please tell me how it passed on, and when. I don't think anyone else reading this can say that this sounds strange. I sell a snake to someone claiming to be coast to coast reptiles, to a pair of guys, claiming to be partners, and they have me send it to a friend, who states that it arrived fine and is doing great, and then suddenly it dies. It apparently ate according to Mrs. Glucheff, and then all of a sudden it is dead. I personally would not want anyone that is receiving my boa to feed it, I would think that the snake could wait until it got into the rightful owners hands before feeding it. But, then again, thats just me, and I trusted a company, coast to coast reptiles, that apparently is a kid. Sorry!
Sincerely,
Scott J. Cotey
Thank you,
Scott J. Cotey
DaveyFig
New member
If you are sitting in their house, typing on their computer, you can turn around and ask how old Bruce and Anthony are. While you are at it , see if you can get a last name of Bruce in Maryland. Thanks in advance maddog.
Maddog
First off Credibility is everything here. “What you know as the facts are” That tells me you do not know the facts for sure and from what I have read, Cameron did not receive the snake. Cameron’s E-Mail address stating cost to cost reptiles is misleading in the least.
Two questions, why do we have two ship to addresses in this thread? And Maddog, where you there Anthony Vasquez’s house when it was delivered, NOT Cameron’s house?
maddog said:
First off Credibility is everything here. “What you know as the facts are” That tells me you do not know the facts for sure and from what I have read, Cameron did not receive the snake. Cameron’s E-Mail address stating cost to cost reptiles is misleading in the least.
Scooter J said:
CGluhcheff said:
Two questions, why do we have two ship to addresses in this thread? And Maddog, where you there Anthony Vasquez’s house when it was delivered, NOT Cameron’s house?
Man, I hate the minor messes that pop up..lol get it minor.. I know not funny.
As far as any legal responsibility first and foremost to be able to claim Scott is at fault for selling an animal to a minor we need proof not mentioned, but proof of the age of both parties who paid for the animal. If either one is over 18 then case closed no fault can be put on Scotts shoulders for this.
I also want to know where the 7 day rule for california is written..
I don't have anything else to add at the moment.
Later
As far as any legal responsibility first and foremost to be able to claim Scott is at fault for selling an animal to a minor we need proof not mentioned, but proof of the age of both parties who paid for the animal. If either one is over 18 then case closed no fault can be put on Scotts shoulders for this.
I also want to know where the 7 day rule for california is written..
I don't have anything else to add at the moment.
Later
Scooter J
New member
Two Shipping address's
The reason for two shipping address's is that when it came time to ship, he decided to ship it to a friends house, because he said he wasn't sure he would be home to recieve delivery. Therefore I followed his instructions and shipped it to Anthony Vasquez.
Thanks,
Scott J. Cotey
P.S.
As I have stated, I will await for the subpoena or whatever Mrs. Glucheff has her attorney send. Then I will contact my lawyer and take all of my documentation and meet them in court, and let the law determine who has mislead who and what should be done.
The reason for two shipping address's is that when it came time to ship, he decided to ship it to a friends house, because he said he wasn't sure he would be home to recieve delivery. Therefore I followed his instructions and shipped it to Anthony Vasquez.
Thanks,
Scott J. Cotey
P.S.
As I have stated, I will await for the subpoena or whatever Mrs. Glucheff has her attorney send. Then I will contact my lawyer and take all of my documentation and meet them in court, and let the law determine who has mislead who and what should be done.
DaveyFig
New member
Alvaro, Do you happen to have Bruce from B&T's last name? I saw that you did a search on him in the past, and was just wondering, since he is a Bruce in Maryland, and probably not operating under B&T anymore after all the stuff with the het. balls.
Probably not the same Bruce, but could be.
Probably not the same Bruce, but could be.
maddog
New member
what I do know
Yes, being at their house you would think I could find something out from Cameron, but when he is not home, it's kind of hard.
No I was not at Anthony's when it was delivered. I was with Cameron and I seen the snake dead first hand yesterday. So I know that is a fact.
I can not answer why their are two ship addresses.
Yes, being at their house you would think I could find something out from Cameron, but when he is not home, it's kind of hard.
No I was not at Anthony's when it was delivered. I was with Cameron and I seen the snake dead first hand yesterday. So I know that is a fact.
I can not answer why their are two ship addresses.
Sasheena
Imperfect
Maddog, if you cannot follow the Terms of Service of this site, then all of your opinions aren't worth the screen their printed on. Either follow the TOS or don't bother to type. I'm sure someone else will tell me if you wish to comply but until then, I have you on ignore as one whose opinion is not worth anything... I imagine your posts will be deleted very soon anyway!
Scooter J
New member
My first question
I guess I am just stupid, but my first question by Cameron to Anthony is when did it die, why did you feed it, what happened after it arrived fine on Tuesday, and did you do anything that may have caused it any damage. How can I control what transpired from Tuesday to Saturday. I really would be questioning Anthony, instead Mrs. Glucheff is pulling the selling to a minor card, that is the whole rationale for me thinking this thing smells of a scam. Sorry, but i will take my case to court and let the judge hear all of their foolishness.
Thank You,
Scott J. Cotey
I guess I am just stupid, but my first question by Cameron to Anthony is when did it die, why did you feed it, what happened after it arrived fine on Tuesday, and did you do anything that may have caused it any damage. How can I control what transpired from Tuesday to Saturday. I really would be questioning Anthony, instead Mrs. Glucheff is pulling the selling to a minor card, that is the whole rationale for me thinking this thing smells of a scam. Sorry, but i will take my case to court and let the judge hear all of their foolishness.
Thank You,
Scott J. Cotey
. All you can tell us for sure is that the snake is dead.
No, I don't have it and I can't can't remember.
Again, for something to kill a boa that fast it has to be drastic. It was fine and eating and 5 days later it died. Cameron never indicated a concern for specific symptoms before the sudden death (for example: neurological, respiratory, diarrhea, regurgitation, etc.). Knowing it was kept in a tank where there is very little chance for thermal gradient I wander if excess temperature could have been the most likely cause of death. Again, just speculation.
Scott,
Do you have pictures of the boa while it was alive at your place? The picture of the dead boa posted in this thread doesn't show the entire body.
Thanks.
HerpVenue
New member
let me first off say.....I do not know either party.
but let me state some facts as I see them.
1. Coast to coast reptiles.....implies you are a business or a wanna be business. but we might be able to overlook this.
2. Saying you have a partner implies you are in business. we might be able to overlook this.
3. To be in business you have to be old enough. we definatley can't over look this
4. To have an account on reptibid you have to abide by their rules. we can't over look this
5. This is the first rule on reptibid
Article 1. Eligibility of membership - This auction site is only available to people who are legally able to form binding contracts with you and the seller/buyer of an auction item. People who are of under age of 18 are not eligible for membership due to security precautions that can result as of those members. If you do not meet these requirements, you are not eligible to use these auction services. we definately can't over look this
6. This dee lawson (or whatever their name is) does not care for the rules of this and any other site and neither does the other people involved. I see a pattern of BLATANT disreguard for rules and TOS
7. After blatant disreguard for rules and TOS...they all of a sudden want Scott to abide by the California laws which they just made up. double standards?
8. The snake was shipped to an adult. Therefore that adult took responsibility. End of story. no ifs and or buts.
9. Snakes do not die so suddenly unless there is something extremely wrong before you get excited read number ten (10)
10. If there is something extremly wrong with a snake ie disease or what not.....It definately would NOT EAT
you still think you will win this case?
but let me state some facts as I see them.
1. Coast to coast reptiles.....implies you are a business or a wanna be business. but we might be able to overlook this.
2. Saying you have a partner implies you are in business. we might be able to overlook this.
3. To be in business you have to be old enough. we definatley can't over look this
4. To have an account on reptibid you have to abide by their rules. we can't over look this
5. This is the first rule on reptibid
Article 1. Eligibility of membership - This auction site is only available to people who are legally able to form binding contracts with you and the seller/buyer of an auction item. People who are of under age of 18 are not eligible for membership due to security precautions that can result as of those members. If you do not meet these requirements, you are not eligible to use these auction services. we definately can't over look this
6. This dee lawson (or whatever their name is) does not care for the rules of this and any other site and neither does the other people involved. I see a pattern of BLATANT disreguard for rules and TOS
7. After blatant disreguard for rules and TOS...they all of a sudden want Scott to abide by the California laws which they just made up. double standards?
8. The snake was shipped to an adult. Therefore that adult took responsibility. End of story. no ifs and or buts.
9. Snakes do not die so suddenly unless there is something extremely wrong before you get excited read number ten (10)
10. If there is something extremly wrong with a snake ie disease or what not.....It definately would NOT EAT
you still think you will win this case?
HerpVenue
New member
Scott some questions for you.
yes and no will be fine
1. Did they represent themselves as Coast to Caost Reptiles?
2. Did they refer to each other as "partner"?
3. Did they buy the snake through a website where you have to be eighteen (18) to participate?
4. Did you send the snake to an adult named "Anthony"?
5. Did you give a warranty or mention a warranty or imply a warranty?
end of discussion no ifs and or buts.
I rest my case
yes and no will be fine
1. Did they represent themselves as Coast to Caost Reptiles?
2. Did they refer to each other as "partner"?
3. Did they buy the snake through a website where you have to be eighteen (18) to participate?
4. Did you send the snake to an adult named "Anthony"?
5. Did you give a warranty or mention a warranty or imply a warranty?
end of discussion no ifs and or buts.
I rest my case
Scooter J
New member
Answers to the Questions
1. Did they represent themselves as Coast to Caost Reptiles?
Yes they did represent themselves as a business as indicated by the emails.
2. Did they refer to each other as "partner"? Yes as indicated by their emails again.
3. Did they buy the snake through a website where you have to be eighteen (18) to participate?
Yes, they got a hold of me from reptibid, but after the auction failed to net a high enough price. They even tried to buy him through a buy it now option, and I have the email to prove it.
4. Did you send the snake to an adult named "Anthony"?
Yes, I was instructed to mail the snake to Anthony Vasquez
5. Did you give a warranty or mention a warranty or imply a warranty?
No, I did not offer a warranty, nor did they ask for one, but I would have been obligated had the snake arrived in poor condition, which it did not.
I also would like to post the latest email from the mother for all of you to review as well as my response to her. I am really trying to hold my patience but she is pressing me to the limit.
It doesn't really matter if you have an attorney since this is a small
claims issue. Attorneys are not allowed in small claims court.Since Cameron
paid for the snake and sent the money order it does not make a difference
that you mailed it to Anthony but I am sure that your attorney told you
this. I have your home address and will make sure that the local Marshall
serves you the court papers. I will see you this summer in court. Since I am
the one filing the case against you I will set the date in July. You can
also expect me to get the proper paperwork for the Attorney Generals Office.
I am also going to contact the postal authorities since the check was mailed
as was the snake to see if there was some kind of Federal Offense. Please
have no doubt that I will not take this to the full extent of the law. I
will also contact your local newspaper and write a commentary as well as
posting this on the website. I want to ensure that you do not take advantage
of other minors.
You are an adult and you should be ashamed to have taken advantage of a
minor. You have made accusations about me trying to "scam" you but rest
assured I am a not that type of person and this will be addressed in court.
I teach at a local college part-time and am a full time Special Education
teacher, and my husband is a Master Sergeant who is currently serving in
Iraq. This is not about the money but about an adult who "scams' minors out
of their hard earned money. As a child advocate in my community it is my job
to protect children against people like.
In case you misplace any of my emails you will be able to view them on the
"Inquiry Board". I know that this is am appropriate forum since you posted
the emails there first.
You have replied to many of the issues but you did not reply to the one
about any "reputable" dealer would guarantee the snake for 7 days. Is there
some reason that you don't feel that this is an issue? Cam was at the local
reptile show this weekend and every dealer has a 7 day guarantee. I will
bring proof of this when I take you to court.
I would have Cameron file the court papers but as you know he is a minor and
cannot handle matters such as this. I am sure that in the long run that this
will cause you a lot more time a greif then it would have to refund my son
his money.
Ashley Gluhcheff
No my response, sorry I got a little fed up with her.
Mrs. Glucheff,
I am not a business, but a private owner. I sold the snake to coast to coast reptiles, who represented themselves, Cameron and Bruce as partners, as indicated in their emails. I followed their instructions to the letter, and sent the boa to Anthony Vasquez, who reported to me that everything was fine with the boa. If you have any issues they should be #1 with your son for misrepresentation, #2 with Anthony Vasquez, who said the snake was fine and doing great, what happened from Tuesday to Saturday, #3 you should ask yourself why a 15 year old boy is doing business with another individual named Bruce and passing themselves off as a business. I look forward to seeing you in court. By the way, why don't you teach your children to accept responsibility for their actions, instead of always looking to blame others. As far as a return policy, since the snake was sent to Anthony Vasquez and he informed me it was fine and doing great, then I don't have any responsibility for the snake after that, unless you can prove to me that it was ill before it was sent, which it wasn't. Something occurred from Tuesday till your son received it on Saturday, but you are just looking to blame me without searching for the truth. I will not be bullied, intimidated or threatened by a mother that hasn't got enough sense of right and wrong to teach her children properly. I hope you haven't infected the population teaching your school children those same values.
Good Day,
Scott J. Cotey
Thank you for your assistance
Scott J. Cotey
1. Did they represent themselves as Coast to Caost Reptiles?
Yes they did represent themselves as a business as indicated by the emails.
2. Did they refer to each other as "partner"? Yes as indicated by their emails again.
3. Did they buy the snake through a website where you have to be eighteen (18) to participate?
Yes, they got a hold of me from reptibid, but after the auction failed to net a high enough price. They even tried to buy him through a buy it now option, and I have the email to prove it.
4. Did you send the snake to an adult named "Anthony"?
Yes, I was instructed to mail the snake to Anthony Vasquez
5. Did you give a warranty or mention a warranty or imply a warranty?
No, I did not offer a warranty, nor did they ask for one, but I would have been obligated had the snake arrived in poor condition, which it did not.
I also would like to post the latest email from the mother for all of you to review as well as my response to her. I am really trying to hold my patience but she is pressing me to the limit.
It doesn't really matter if you have an attorney since this is a small
claims issue. Attorneys are not allowed in small claims court.Since Cameron
paid for the snake and sent the money order it does not make a difference
that you mailed it to Anthony but I am sure that your attorney told you
this. I have your home address and will make sure that the local Marshall
serves you the court papers. I will see you this summer in court. Since I am
the one filing the case against you I will set the date in July. You can
also expect me to get the proper paperwork for the Attorney Generals Office.
I am also going to contact the postal authorities since the check was mailed
as was the snake to see if there was some kind of Federal Offense. Please
have no doubt that I will not take this to the full extent of the law. I
will also contact your local newspaper and write a commentary as well as
posting this on the website. I want to ensure that you do not take advantage
of other minors.
You are an adult and you should be ashamed to have taken advantage of a
minor. You have made accusations about me trying to "scam" you but rest
assured I am a not that type of person and this will be addressed in court.
I teach at a local college part-time and am a full time Special Education
teacher, and my husband is a Master Sergeant who is currently serving in
Iraq. This is not about the money but about an adult who "scams' minors out
of their hard earned money. As a child advocate in my community it is my job
to protect children against people like.
In case you misplace any of my emails you will be able to view them on the
"Inquiry Board". I know that this is am appropriate forum since you posted
the emails there first.
You have replied to many of the issues but you did not reply to the one
about any "reputable" dealer would guarantee the snake for 7 days. Is there
some reason that you don't feel that this is an issue? Cam was at the local
reptile show this weekend and every dealer has a 7 day guarantee. I will
bring proof of this when I take you to court.
I would have Cameron file the court papers but as you know he is a minor and
cannot handle matters such as this. I am sure that in the long run that this
will cause you a lot more time a greif then it would have to refund my son
his money.
Ashley Gluhcheff
No my response, sorry I got a little fed up with her.
Mrs. Glucheff,
I am not a business, but a private owner. I sold the snake to coast to coast reptiles, who represented themselves, Cameron and Bruce as partners, as indicated in their emails. I followed their instructions to the letter, and sent the boa to Anthony Vasquez, who reported to me that everything was fine with the boa. If you have any issues they should be #1 with your son for misrepresentation, #2 with Anthony Vasquez, who said the snake was fine and doing great, what happened from Tuesday to Saturday, #3 you should ask yourself why a 15 year old boy is doing business with another individual named Bruce and passing themselves off as a business. I look forward to seeing you in court. By the way, why don't you teach your children to accept responsibility for their actions, instead of always looking to blame others. As far as a return policy, since the snake was sent to Anthony Vasquez and he informed me it was fine and doing great, then I don't have any responsibility for the snake after that, unless you can prove to me that it was ill before it was sent, which it wasn't. Something occurred from Tuesday till your son received it on Saturday, but you are just looking to blame me without searching for the truth. I will not be bullied, intimidated or threatened by a mother that hasn't got enough sense of right and wrong to teach her children properly. I hope you haven't infected the population teaching your school children those same values.
Good Day,
Scott J. Cotey
Thank you for your assistance
Scott J. Cotey
Pictures?
Scott,
Do you have a picture of the boa while alive and before it was shipped (the picture you showed Cameron)? The one posted of the dead boa only shows the upper 1/3 of the body. Just wanted to verify the nutritional status of the animal Mr. Vazquez received.
Thanks,
Scott,
Do you have a picture of the boa while alive and before it was shipped (the picture you showed Cameron)? The one posted of the dead boa only shows the upper 1/3 of the body. Just wanted to verify the nutritional status of the animal Mr. Vazquez received.
Thanks,
I want to see a full body picture of the dead animal.. As far as we know the gentlemen caring for the dh ghost could have dropped a heavy item on it and ruptured something internally.. But without a vet visit or atleast a full body picture we will never know.
I also wanted to mention as far as "small claims court won't allow attorneys" that may be so, but when the defamation of character and possible other counter suit claims are brought into this it more then likely will go well beyond small claims.
I still think it is needed to know the ages of the purchasers, (both of them) and the individual who took in the package.
This is sad example of why home schooling is such a good idea in todays day and age. I think all teachers with the "blame anyone but your children/self" mentality should be kicked out of the teaching profession..
I also wanted to mention as far as "small claims court won't allow attorneys" that may be so, but when the defamation of character and possible other counter suit claims are brought into this it more then likely will go well beyond small claims.
I still think it is needed to know the ages of the purchasers, (both of them) and the individual who took in the package.
This is sad example of why home schooling is such a good idea in todays day and age. I think all teachers with the "blame anyone but your children/self" mentality should be kicked out of the teaching profession..
dwedeking
Member
Actually this is only partially true. While an attorney can not represent you in small claims, if you lose you have 30 days to appeal. At the appeal you can bring in your lawyer to argue for you. As per California law.
Sasheena
Imperfect
Don't blame the entire teaching profession due to the bad example of one teacher. There are as many kinds of teachers out there as there are people who own and sell herps.... the real scum and the real noble. As a teacher I try to teach my students to be responsible for their themselves. It's amazing to me how many will come on a day when they know in advance that no bathroom passes will be given out, and want to go to the restroom within minutes of arriving at class. I tell them they need to be responsible for their bodily functions, their mouths, and their own learning. They don't understand this, but hopefully, over the course of four years in high school, they learn a bit of this and leave high school a slightly more responsible person.
The saddest thing is when someone without any sense of personal responsibility is empowered in this by the actions of their parent(s), teaching them to place blame elsewhere, anything other than taking personal responsibility. It's a HARD thing to do to take personal responsibility, but the rewards are worth it. Sadly our entire society is turning into a blaming morass. And homeschooling is not necessarily the answer. I had a student who was homeschooled, came to High School, threatened another student with a knife to the throat and was able to get around ANY personal responsibility by threatening the witnesses into lying, and getting a good lawyer. The student returned to the classroom, slick as can be, no personal responsibility, mom and dad fixed it, like they fixed the witnesses.