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Has anyone dealt with Cameron or Ashley Glucheff

Once again. The issue here is should the seller refund due to it being his fault or no. Cam making arrangements and what ever you feel about the mom is irrelivant. The problem i will repeat is there is a dead animal 5 day following delivery and just happens to have a defect.
 
Flyride said:
This animal was shipped to an ADULT seasoned caregiver who cared for it the whole time till it was deceased.

Your own words. An adult seasoned caregiver recieved it, confirmed that it was in perfect health, cared for it, and then delivered it deceased to Cam.

This is the only confirmed information we have. No other claim has been substantiated beyond that.
 
He never claimed it was in perfect health. 2 days later he sent cam pix of the kink so obviously it wasnt in perfect health.
 
did you see what you wrote

"So Mr Strayvoltage, your facts are irrelivant to this issue" I just suggest you ask a lawyer about that brilliant statement.
 
jeff, you seem to be missing the points that the snake was recieved in good shape. It was healthy and good looking enough to feed it. There was no warranty or guarentee, none, zip, zero.

Somewhere the snake was traumatized to the point that it died. There has not been a necropsy done. You would think with all of her connections in the education and law enforcement communities that wonder mom would know a good vet to send that snake to. And yet, she has not. Wonder why?

Perhaps she too is a liar, like her son. Perhaps she too knows what killed this snake and wants someone else to take the blame for her child. Perhaps.

There was no guarentee/warranty. The snake arrived alive and healthy.

Case closed.

Wes Pollock
 
Flyride

I don't want to join the argument, but the snake was actually $450, Cameron paid $350, and the mysterious Bruce paid $100.....


Also, Scott has already mentioned that he was selling this particular snake becuase he had received a replacement for it and no longer had a need for the DH. So, therefore, It's my estimation that since he's not in business and only a hobbyist, the price wasn't his main concern.

I understand your empathy for what happened, and the fact that you are personally familiar with Anthony, But there are more holes in what Cameron is saying than with what Scott is saying in my opinion.

Everybody has pointed out all of the facts in the case, so I will not beat a totally dead horse. The things I want to know are....

If age wasn't an issue, as has been pointed out by every party involved with Cameron, then why was this the basis for his mother's first threat?

Where and who is Bruce, and why hasn't he stepped forward to received his $100 back?

Why hasn't Anthony stepped up and told us what happened from the time he opened the box, given an account of the packaging, etc., and put to rest all of the hearsay in regards to what he did in the 5 days that the snake was in his care?

Hear's the way I see it in my own personal opinion......
Cameron's mother has been grabbing at straws for the entire thread. She's come up with threat after threat as to what she's going to have charged to Scott. First it's sellign to a minor, then it's a federal standard warranty on livestock, then it's a federal law about shipping reptiles via FedEx. The bottom line is that she's not happy that her son made a large purchase and received damaged goods (not sure when or how the goods got damaged) She may be a nice woman, trying to do the right thing, but these threats have taken it to the extreme. Bringing up the occupations of her father and husband to toot her own horn and give the impression that her threats actually have a leg to stand on. The truth is, she has NO legal standing in this case. EVerything she has said is a bluff, plain and simple. I can tell this because once one is disproven, she comes up with a new one.

FACT
Scott sold a boa for $450 to 2 individuals, a minor, and one assumed to not be a minor. Regardless, the boa was sent to an adult.

FACT
Scott shipped the animal via FedEX, a legal way of shipping animals. (notice I said LEGAL, not within policy)

FACT
There was no written or verbal guarantee given at the time of purchase, and an individual is not LEGALLY required to honor a guarantee if one was not provided.

FACT
The snake is now dead. There were no complaints made prior to the rightful owner receiving the boa. In fact, the initial recipient gave it a good bill of health. Even when he noticed a defect, he did NOT inform the rightful owner, nor the seller that shipped the animal to him.

Scott has nothing to worry about in my opinion. These threats are just to blow smoke up his ........and scare him into giving a refund. I say don't do it. Let them TRY to sue you.

One question I have for the peanut gallery......IF you had purchased a $450 boa constrictor, and had it delivered to a friends house to ensure that someone would be there to accept it.....would you not go there THAT NIGHT to claim it......I know I sure would.......
 
Steven,
You hit the nail on the head. We will probably never know what happened to the snake. I'm just so tired of the "sue crazy' mentality of some people.
There is also a long standing warning in sales(no offense meant to the seller)-BUYER BEWARE-seller too I guess!!!
Rhoda Allen
 
AMEN Todd, thanks for the eloquence.

Rhoda, nice to know there's a fellow teacher on here. :) Nice also to know that you are in tune with reality. Kids do lie. Kids NEED to know that they should be responsible for their own actions. Teach em that and the world is theres. Neglect to teach them that and McDonalds....Burger King....service positions are theres. Maybe.
 
Flyride said:
He never claimed it was in perfect health. 2 days later he sent cam pix of the kink so obviously it wasnt in perfect health.

Two days is a long time to first notice a kink. Unless of course the kink was a result of physical trauma on that second day.

This animal was shipped to an ADULT seasoned caregiver who cared for it the whole time till it was deceased.

This adult seasoned caregiver informed the seller that the animal was recieved and in perfect condition. There were no qualms made by the adult seasoned caregiver for two whole days which of course is only documented by a picture dated 4/2/04 that was sent to Cam. At this point no one has contacted the seller.

Now why at 2 days was Cam not upset enough to contact the seller? Maybe because the adult seasoned caregiver emailed Cam and said, "I'm sorry what I did to your snake?"

Well when the day finally rolls around where adult seasoned caregiver delivers a deceased animal to Cam, what happens?
 
Is this the snake in question just before being shipped?

Maybe I've got the wrong snake, but is this the snake that was shipped?

Thanks.
 

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It sure seems the markings match.

This picture came from Reptibid. All I'm asking is if this picture adequately portrays the snake that was shipped.

Thanks.
 
Ridiculous

Let the parent sue, for heaven's sake.

Small claims court, she can go all the way to the originating state, and lose. It's ridiculous.

No one has shown ANY SHRED OF CIRCUMSTANCE, let alone evidence, that this animal was not 100% when received.

A vet was not contacted for a necropsy.

Apparently the mother doesn't feel her son is even remotely responsible for anything that transpired. Let her sue, and she can get a determination from an unbiased (and unrelated) legal authority.
 
Scott will have to answer that, but the pics I have seen were all brighter in color,maybe in his more chill mode(since hypos tent to darken and lighten based on mood) but that is the same snake.
 
The latest pic

I just lightened the pic and drew a sort of diagram of the first two bands (blotches??? what do they call them on a boa anyway?) Anyway, I'll attach it here. In the picture of the "kinked neck" the two markings are very clear.
 

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the picture posted showing the boa and the diagram by Shasheena, sorry about spelling, was posted on reptibid, and also sent to Cameron. It is the boa, and all I can say is it was in perfect health. Questions have been raised by Flyride, or someone stating that $450 is too little to charge for a DH Ghost, well, that is exactly what I paid for the boa, I really didn't have him all that long, as I had received a Ghost from Linda Hedgepath, and no longer had a need for him. The boa had a very nice tail color but as you can see a lot of flecking so, I only charged what I paid. Why should I try to rip anyone off for more that what I paid only a short time ago. This whole situation is totally out of control. I sold a boa to a pair of businessmen, who passed themselves off as a business, Coast to Coast reptiles, sent the snake per their instructions to their friend and it was recieved in good health and doing great, and then 4-5 days later its dead. Now I don't know what happened, but the snake was perfectly alright when it left here, and perfectly alright when it got there. The mystery is what happened from Tuesday till Saturday, and why did it take so long for Cameron to get his snake from Anthony. I don't know what happened, and I don't know if it will ever be discovered, but my guess is that someone screwed up and I am being named as the scapegoat. Well, I have said it before and I will say it again, I will see Mrs. Glucheff in court and let them decide. I feel confident that something happened to this boa after it arrived in their possession, I can't prove it, but I sure would like to see some sort of Vet's report on cause of death.

Thank you,
Scott J. Cotey
 
Some more gasoline...

I too am a teacher & get tired of all the lame excuses parents come up with. To Ashley G.:Why were you not aware of this transaction? And also I am an army vet & last time I checked the National Guard doesn't send units overseas.
To Cameron: Why didn't you get a look at this snake before Saturday if you were sooo excited about it? To "flyride": Why did you post a statement that this person "was an experienced herper" that frequents many forums, but later stated he sought your help instead of a vet about the neck kink because he is a novice? Which is it?
And not that it really has much to do with this issue...but since it was brought up, an ass't DA may know criminal law but isn't the person I would consult about tort & civil laws (Those are 1st year law school courses.)

Ro Hill
 
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Mrs. Glucheff is so adament about blaming me for everything that went wrong that she has stated she will incur whatever costs to get me for selling the boa to a minor. Well, if she wants the truth about the boas cause of death, why not take the same approach and have a Vet check the cause of death? I would really like to know what killed that snake.

Thanks,

Scott J. Cotey
 
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