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Has anyone delt with Dan Parma/ Snakes Den???

50%Het Ball!

Mark,

I'm glad that everything went well with you and DAN... The man dosen't have a pot to piss in. I do understand that he paid you for it, but the thing is that he used ''MY MONEY'' to do it! He has SOLD MY ANIMALS to pay for for your!!! He is a lying CROOK!!! I never gave him permission to sell ANY of my animals and to make matters even worse, for 1 he denize even selling any of them (which i have shown proof) and 2 after selling them he has not even sent me a penny for them.

He still owes me for the mollucan scrub and the water monitor which i had paid for out of my pocket just for him and he sold it on reptibid 2 days after he received it!

Mark by no means am I stating on here that you are wrong or a bad guy... I'm pointing out to the people out there that this guy DAN PARMA is a crook!!!


Hey DAN why don't you come on here and explain to everyone how you stole my animals!!! "NOT'' Instead on having people come on here for you and saying you are a good guy with other peoples money!!! Come on DAN let's hear it!!!


Sal
Boca Reptiles
 
LMMFAO!!!! SAL PUUUHLEASE STOP IT

Ok Sal lets look at a few things here while you are calling the kettle black.

I do understand that he paid you for it, but the thing is that he used ''MY MONEY'' to do it!
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Ok so with this lets see exactly WHAT did you do with the thousands of dollars you stole from people in your stint in building cages and sell craptiles?

I never gave him permission to sell ANY of my animals and to make matters even worse, for 1 he denize even selling any of them (which i have shown proof) and 2 after selling them he has not even sent me a penny for them.
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So when you took customers monies when building cages what did you do with it ? cause most never got anything for it ?

And i think Otter_23 Mark also adressed you in the other thread as still looking for a tracking number for those vanishing balls you owe him????

I have also spoken with a customer that you scammed lets see if the name Christian Carpenter rings any bells in your head?? how much did you take him for ?? did you ever pay HIM back as you stated you have paid back ALL of the people you have wronged?
**cough** otter_23 ** cough **

So Sal when you come on here crying about how you were wronged and something was stolen from you even if it WAS or DID happen i dont think you will get a pitty party on this website as im sure most would say ...KARMA... aint it a bitch lol
 
ALAN HERE'S TO YOU!!!

First off EVERYONE has gotten paid one way or another... second of all the name Christian Carpenter does not ring any bell at all.

One the thing with Mark Westburg was that LAST year he had purchased a 10 lot of balls off of me, when he received them he had contacted me and told me that some of them had died a few days later and the others weren't doing so well... we'll they all had died he said, so i replaced them with another 10 lot. When he received the next batch he claimes that there were only 5 in the box instead of 10. So now he sees an oppertunity here on fauna to to post and see if he can get another 10 balls out of me.

I should have seen the light back then when he said he only received only 5 instead of 10.

Sal
Boca Reptiles
 
ANOTHER THING!

And i think Otter_23 Mark also adressed you in the other thread as still looking for a tracking number for those vanishing balls you owe him????
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I had NEVER told him that they WERE shipped!!!

Sal
Boca Reptiles
 
ok thats admirable of you one more question

Ok since those were answered so readily ...

Could you shed light on what was the reasoning behind even taking monies from people and not delivering on products ?

I know it looks like i ride you like a cheap quarter ride at kmart and i do but with the dealings that you have dealt out it really makes it hard for others to make online deals when we are contacted by some one who has been burned by people that do buisness in the way that you did.I dont know if you could answer this or not but might shed light on you as a person and with things you did in the past if you do intend to make that part of your past . And i also hope you understand the reasoning in what i said that not many here are going to give credence to your claim of being rippedoff by parma . som things just happen and if he did even though its you Sal and in my heart its that you deserved but a rip off is a rip off even amongst theives if this did happen ...
 
To Everyone in the BOI land!

So Sal when you come on here crying about how you were wronged and something was stolen from you even if it WAS or DID happen i dont think you will get a pitty party
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Alan and eveyone else out there in the BOI land... I am not here for anyones PITTY , I only posted this info on here about DAN is to tell people about this guy. If you can't see that and you think it's a lie also, well let it be and we'll see.

I still don't see DAN comming on here to defend himself.......HUMMMM!!!

Just to keep everyone up to date here... This thread is about DAN PARMA not my past!!!

Sal
Boca Reptiles
 
On 3/20/04, Your friend Neil posted the following:
Mark.... he also told me that the reason he hasn't shipped you the Balls, is because he didn't have his license yet, but, now that he has it, he will be shipping you the Balls sometime next week.... he's got 6 of your Balls in hand (lol) and will be getting 4 more for you early next week and shipping them asap....
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So who is the liar, Neil or you? ....and if it's you, why do you continue to drag your friends down to your level when they are foolish enough to stick up for you?


Just to keep everyone up to date here... This thread is about DAN PARMA not my past!!!
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Newsflash...When you post a thread accusing someone of being a thief, the credibility of the accuser is relevant to the thread.
Newsflash...Your credibility sucks!
 
sal (ripoff artist)

here is my reply to sal with all his mindless rambling. you have not shown any proof of anything. the only thing you are right about is that yes you did send me a scrub and a baby water monitor and told me to pay you when ever. i did send you a payment of 40.00 here is the proof of this. i was planning on paying you the other 140 in time and i still will but it will take a loooooooooong time now since you tried to discredit me. which by the way is only making you look more foolish as usual. as far as the other stuff i never reieved anything else from you. thanx dan parma Transaction Details





Payment Sent (ID #3AY09093WE750301U)




Name:
Sal Tornambene (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
Email:
[email protected]

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Total Amount:
-$40.00 USD

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Date:
Mar. 17, 2004
Time:
18:46:42 PST
Status:
Completed
 
DAN PARMA

Well it's about time you shameless piece of work.

Think your a smart ASS with that paypal info..... Just to refresh your memory.... That was "MY" money that was sent to you by the acution in upstate NY....So you just sent it back to me!!! That has nothing to do with animals AT ALL!!!

As far as the receipts go, No i do not have any invoices to show any of those animals that i had sent to DAN.... Who would in there right mind send an invoice to a so call "friend" when we were NOT selling anything, we were suppose to be BREEDING them together.... REMEMBER DAN.... I buy and you breed them and we split the money!!!

The fact is that you sold them on me "ALL OF THEM" over $5000 worth of them and you have the BALLS to come on here and say you only gave me $40 towards them.... Shame on you DAN!

Now i can see how you can buy all them tiger retics and the yellow head ect... It was MY MONEY!!!

Tell everyone how you live DAN.... Let me see.... You haven't worked since the time i known you... you send your wife off to work her two jobs every day and you CON other people to send you animals so you can sell them on them....

Does all this ring a bell to you now!

Be a man and call me DAN.... Maybe you can explain to me a little better how you f****d me!!! 561-482-8068

Sal
Boca Reptiles
 
lol

:rofl: :rofl:

Sal preach it brother man preach them there ethics you suddenly got ... hands sal a soapbox and a scammers bible ... preach on heal the world

Does it matter where that $40 camer from you said it was from a auction you paid him for ?

So he sent it back ? im sorry if i missed something there my eyes were watering so bad at the time i could barely see if it was from something you paid him and he sent it back it was HIS money if you paid him ??? so that in my eyes is a $40 payment
 
ALAN

Alan do i have to spell it out for you.... read carefully what i wrote

Think your a smart ASS with that paypal info..... Just to refresh your memory.... That was "MY" money that was sent to you by the acution in upstate NY....So you just sent it back to me!!! That has nothing to do with animals AT ALL!!!
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Can you read the part that says "UPSTATE NY''.... That was for some stuff i had brought to the acution for sale "not animals'' and the check for my STUFF i sold was sent to dan to cash for me.

So wipe your eyes cry baby and maybe you can read a little better.... or maybe it's your bad breath that does that... you tell me.

Sal
Boca Reptiles
 
ALAN

Alan do i have to spell it out for you.... read carefully what i wrote

Think your a smart ASS with that paypal info..... Just to refresh your memory.... That was "MY" money that was sent to you by the acution in upstate NY....So you just sent it back to me!!! That has nothing to do with animals AT ALL!!!
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Can you read the part that says "UPSTATE NY''.... That was for some stuff i had brought to the acution for sale "not animals'' and the check for my STUFF i sold was sent to dan to cash for me.

So wipe your eyes cry baby and maybe you can read a little better.... or maybe it's your bad breath that does that... you tell me.

Sal
Boca Reptiles
 
Sal, perhaps you should hire a publicist, or at least a good editor, because it's DANG hard to actually be able to read and understand what you are writing, when there are so many mispellings. Let's try a timeline...or a bulletted list....

You fill in the blanks


1.____________

2.____________

3. Dan sends you money

4.____________

5.____________

Now if you give it to us in a timeline, we might be able to understand your message. If you can't find a publicist or an editor, then try to keep it to very short words.

I asked you a pertinent question in this thread, you ignored it.

You supposedly purchased an Amazon Boa that was Gravid... and then you paid for said gravid amazon's babies once she gave birth? That part alone didn't make sense. I didn't bother analyzing the rest. I just kinow if I buy a gravid snake, no way am I sending money later on for the babies too!
 
Sal ... let me spell it out for YOU!

Sal steals Thousands of dollars from unknowing customers who send you hard earned money for something they THINK that will be delivered to them .


Sal takes money and buys god only knows what with it and tells customers he is feverishly working on they items they paid for in full


Customers call to find out status ... Sal says .." there being built " ( while full well knowing he has spent the money they sent on probably animals that he has sold and doesnt have anymore ) that would have been sold and covered in mites ( see stardusts post for this )

Customers still dont have products after weeks or months of delay and stalling they figure they have been taken and most have no clue where to complain about it cause they dont know of the BOI and could have saved the money if they had known cause it would have never been sent to Sal

Sal claims he has $5k in animals stolen by a friend but admits he only has proof of TWO of them that he sent cause they were "friends" Sal now decides these animals were stolen from him by this friend and he has been wronged , Sal DOES know of the BOI because his company NAMES have been plastered all over it for a while so he decides to come here and cry like a lil sotty nose kid about this big guy that stole his animals .. what would have been poetic justice was if Sal had warned people to not send him money cause he was going to STEAL it for many many months and wouldnt have EVER paid it back if not for his friend NEIL helping him out on some of the debts ... Sal up and moves in the night to Sunny florida where he can start a new Buisness ( see Boca Reptiles) starts selling animals and then is called out of the woodpile as the lieing theiving scammer he is and then acts like he once again has changed his spots ( only from the front to the back of his body . After being looked into by some people in the buisness its discovered he doesnt have lisc/ permits to sale reptiles in the state of Fla. so he goes underground then resurfaces to complain of how he was ripped off.


So after all that spelling SAL what do you see ?
A liar
A Theif
A low life
A scum
a person who now wants to be a pillar of society and point out someone they claim stole$5k in animals and only can show proof of two animals the person had
 
Re: ALAN

BocaReptiles said:




Can you read the part that says "UPSTATE NY''.... That was for some stuff i had brought to the acution for sale "not animals'' and the check for my STUFF i sold was sent to dan to cash for me.


Sal
Boca Reptiles
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Yo salito, WHY is a check made out to you being sent to someone in another state to be cashed for you ? Is there some reason YOU can't cash your own checks? Very interesting.

One would also think, after your dealings with kennyboy yates, that you would not blindly walk down THE EXACT SAME PATH again. You had no paper work with him either, did you? Now you, a known scammer and criminal, expect us to believe that you MADE THE SAME EXACT MISTAKES you made last time you tried to work out a breeding deal???? salito, you are too funny.

Alan, pass the kleenex over here, I need to wipe my eyes too.

Show some proof and answer some questions salito.

Wes Pollock
 
DAN!!!

Hey DAN,


Still waiting for you to call??? What's up guy.... nothing to say or to chicken S**t to talk face to face?

Sal
Boca Reptiles
 
Sal, nice to see you're back from vacation or from breaking your leg or whatever kept you away. Do you mind answering the various questions asked of you? I know mine is a very small question, and many other people whom you RIPPED OFF require answers as to when they are going to receive some satisfaction, but I do admit to curiousity...

Did you buy an Amazon Boa that was Gravid for $125?

Did you THEN pay the seller $75 each for the seven colored baby amazons?

(Hope I remembered those numbers correctly)

Just two Teeny Tiny questions.

Kinda funny your latest post..... acting as if you are always here and always an angel with a halo, when you ALWAYS disappear when people ask you hard questions. What about the Boca thread where you were going to answer about how you had satisfied EVERYONE who had ever been unsatisfied with you, and yet we keep hearing of people here who are STILL unsatisfied?
 
Hey salito,

On top of answering Shasheena's VERY good question about how much you paid for how many Amazon Tree Boas I still want to know why Dan was CASHING a check made out to you.

You come up with more creative financing alternatives than anyone I've ever read on this board.

How about some answers ol' buddy ol' pal?

Wes Pollock
 
Question for Dan...

Dan, back in early February 2004, I did a trade with you. If you recall I traded you a blue tegu for 4 snakes. Because of the discussion on this thread, I must ask you to produce the receipts that you have told me that you have for the 4 snakes that you traded me for the tegu. I hate to have to do this, but feel as if I must, if I am on the receiving end of stolen property I could also be held liable for it. You know that I am a paralegal and understand the law very well. I don't want to become involved in a legal dispute which involves stolen reptiles. I am not accusing you or anyone else of anything, so please don't get offended.

However, you traded me 4 snakes, some of which were on Sal's list of snakes that you had that were his. If you recall, the 4 snakes you traded me were: a baby (2003) female Cay Calkers Boa, a female Orange Phase Amazon Tree Boa, a 4 foot nicely colored pale orange redtail boa and a rosy boa (don't recall the locale, but can find out from looking through old e-mails). AT LEAST 2 of those reptiles are definitely on Sal's list, the Cay Calkers and the Orange ATB, maybe the redtail too.

Just to refresh your memory, you sent the 4 snakes to me first and a day or so later, on February 16, 2004, I sent the blue tegu to you and it arrived on February 17, 2004 at your address. I keep very accurate records, you know that.

I am just concerned about this, as I am sure that you understand. I don't really know either one of you guys personally, and have also learned the hard way NOT TO TRUST ANYONE in the reptile business.

Please just e-mail me, or better yet POST the receipts that you told me you had just to put my mind at ease and show that these animals I received were yours to trade.

Don't anyone here take offense to this post please...I don't think ANY of you would want to be on the receiving end of "questionable" property. I am not here to degrade or abuse anyone like other people seem to be, I am only posting publically to try to get to the truth.

Thanks!

Aprylla Hall
 
If any of the snakes you got were from sal and dan DOES have reciepts that will be very interesting. If he emails them to you would you please post them here for us to see?

thanks,
Wes Pollock
 
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