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Has anyone heard of Tim Koppenhof?

Ed Clark said:
Pamela has presented paperwork from Dan that clearly shows that Tim Koppenhof has produced her boa? is this mystery man that everyone knows and has said produced this boa named Tim Koppenhof?

Would anyone that knows about the guy that produced these boas tell us who he is? :shrug01:
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Tim Koppenhofer did not produce that snake. He already answered that. Tim himself. He posted in this thread.

For the life of me I can not think of the guys name who did. He was at last months Cleveland show.

Again Tim Koppenhofer posted on this very thread saying he did not produce them.
 
Okay, so then the papers i have are wrong. This boa i have is not Tim's product as Tim made clear to me, and the Het that Dan talks about here was not produced by Tim either...now i have false papers and a sick snake!!!!

Tim i learned has an excellent reputation! And i am glad this got cleared up.

NOW, this snake i have came from just some guy at a show on a trade. This is NOT what i wanted, and Dan knew this, as i asked for papers on the snake.

I will never know where this Boa came from now. But i do know where it did not come from now.

Dan you LIED on papers. Then you lied in a personal email to me saying "the other" snake was produced by Tim???

Enough already....

I want a REFUND!!!

I can put up this email that was sent to me saying the Het Boa was from Tim....

Shame on you...these animals are my passion! I run a great risk now.

I will send you the snake and you can have a necropsy done...there is some serious issues with this one i own.

I don't care about the others in the clutch, this is about monies paid for snake that has wrong papers, and is sick!
 
Tim has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread. His name was mentioned because she had originally wanted the het albino circleback which WAS produced by Tim, which is not the snake we are talking about. She wanted the het and then changed her mind to the normal, so the paperwork must have been mixed up. Which is yes, Dan's fault for not correcting the paperwork. Dan told her friend or her that the normal red-tail she bought did not have any paperwork since it was obtained from a local breeder in Cleveland. I'm going to go have a beer.
 
Gary, no one has said Tim Koppenhofer had produced that boa, Dan gave his customer paperwork stating that Tim Koppenhof produced that boa. It looks like Dan Peck has clearly misrepresented that boa to his customer!
Gary O said:
Tim Koppenhofer did not produce that snake. He already answered that. Tim himself. He posted in this thread.

For the life of me I can not think of the guys name who did. He was at last months Cleveland show.

Again Tim Koppenhofer posted on this very thread saying he did not produce them.
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I will never know where this Boa came from now. But i do know where it did not come from now
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John and I will find out the persons name that produced it. That has been posted here already also.
 
Gary O said:
Tim Koppenhofer did not produce that snake. He already answered that. Tim himself. He posted in this thread.

For the life of me I can not think of the guys name who did. He was at last months Cleveland show.

Again Tim Koppenhofer posted on this very thread saying he did not produce them.
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I have wrong spelling of Tim. It's spelled 5 different ways at this point...AND an email stating the "het" Dan has is a product of Tims...wrong again.

Why the hell did i get lied to??? I have the emails before the purchase too!

LIES, that need to be cleared up.

This is why i stay with REPUTABLE breeders/sellers....i learned a lesson.

Done here. Tim is a GREAT guy and made his reputation very clear with our phone conversation.

Thanks Tim for clearing this up for me and where this snake came from. Now i know, just a "someone" that is not what i wanted.

Dan will you honour your word?

Pamela
 
If Dan Peck said there was no paper work on this boa, why did he send paper work saying that Tim Koppenhof produced the boa?
Tokaylover said:
Tim has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread. His name was mentioned because she had originally wanted the het albino circleback which WAS produced by Tim, which is not the snake we are talking about. She wanted the het and then changed her mind to the normal, so the paperwork must have been mixed up. Which is yes, Dan's fault for not correcting the paperwork. Dan told her friend or her that the normal red-tail she bought did not have any paperwork since it was obtained from a local breeder in Cleveland. I'm going to go have a beer.
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Ed Clark said:
Gary, no one has said Tim Koppenhofer had produced that boa, Dan gave his customer paperwork stating that Tim Koppenhof produced that boa. It looks like Dan Peck has clearly misrepresented that boa to his customer!
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Tim Koppenhofer
Tim Koppenhof

Dan mispelled the name. All one in the same meaning it has already been clearly posted that Tim did not produce that snake. Them snakes never even touched Tim's hands.

I am not saying the paper work is right lol. I was just saying the name was mispelled. Tim even made a comment about that himself. Like I said Tim is a really cool guy. And even took steps to talk to this person. Which was really nice of him.
 
Ed Clark said:
Gary, no one has said Tim Koppenhofer had produced that boa, Dan gave his customer paperwork stating that Tim Koppenhof produced that boa. It looks like Dan Peck has clearly misrepresented that boa to his customer!
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Thank you. Thank you!!!! If they go back they can read the papers i got with it.

Next i will post the new email i recieved stating the Het Albino Dan has was produced by Tim.

Yes i am mad, this was wrong!
 
Gary O said:
Tim Koppenhofer
Tim Koppenhof

Dan mispelled the name. All one in the same meaning it has already been clearly posted that Tim did not produce that snake. Them snakes never even touched Tim's hands.

I am not saying the paper work is right lol. I was just saying the name was mispelled. Tim even made a comment about that himself. Like I said Tim is a really cool guy. And even took steps to talk to this person. Which was really nice of him.
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You're missing the whole point! I was sold a snake that was a product of Tim K. and got an email an hour ago saying the other Boa (Het, albino) is a product of Tim K. TIM. K. DID NOT HAVE ANY BOAS HE SOLD OFF IN MARCH!!! Sure he would talk to me, it's his reputation at stake. His name being used!!!!

You see? Would you be mad? I was mislead. False statements, and a sick snake.
 
I do not believe the het was produced by Tim. A customer bought the het from Tim and then traded it to Dan. The customer could have said I got this from Tim and that was that.
 
Just for everyone's information. The Circle Back Het Albino was FROM Tim Koppenhoffer. He didn't produce it. He bought it from someone then a customer bought it from him. Then the customer brought the Het back to the show the next month and traded or sold it to Dan. I was there and the Circleback Het Albino Male was offered to me and I was also there when the customer bought it from Tim so I could verify it being what it is. I just wanted to clear that and get it out of the way. Dan might have just misinformed you but it happens sometimes when animals go from Hand to Hand. He didn't know Tim didn't produce it so first guess as it came from Tim and it was a baby Dan thought Tim produced it.
 
Pamela, here is a bit of advice for you. Stop making demands in this thread. Contact Dan and try to work out an agreeable solution. Afterwards you can come back here and update this thread with the outcome. You are understandably upset but ranting in this thread and calling him a liar isn't going to help your cause. Give the man a chance to make things right before publicly tearing him apart and jumping the gun. So far it looks like some sort of mix up between the two of you, I bet that you guys can work it out if you give it a chance.
 
Ed Clark said:
Dan you said you stand behind your boas 150%.....Well its time to stand!
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Yes, please. This animal is very very sick. My Vet. wont be open until Thursday! The 24/7 clinic does not do reptiles well.
 
Gecko_Den said:
Pamela, here is a bit of advice for you. Stop making demands in this thread. Contact Dan and try to work out an agreeable solution. Afterwards you can come back here and update this thread with the outcome. You are understandably upset but ranting in this thread and calling him a liar isn't going to help your cause. Give the man a chance to make things right before publicly tearing him apart and jumping the gun. So far it looks like some sort of mix up between the two of you, I bet that you guys can work it out if you give it a chance.
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NO. I want people to know what happened to me, that is why this forum is here!!!!
 
OK is it just me or are there a few ppl that seem to NOT be able to read...


I just sat down and read this thread in about 10 minutes and Im not having any problems following this...

Tims name was mispelled on paper work for a Snake this Lady ORIGINALLY wanted and ended up getting another snake....

Seems pretty simple to me and i would wager to about 99% of the ppl that have read this thread..

It has CLEARLY BEEN STATED NUMEROUS times...so all the crap about lies and misrepresenting of animals is just retarded...and for the LOVE OF GOD ITS SPELLED KOPPENHOFER just because it isnt spelled correctly on the paper does NOT MEAN that isnt who EVERYONE has said it is....Not a lot of boa guys in the cleveland area with the name koppenhofer ...

And if i read everything correctly that Pamela has posted..and what a jumbled confused mess that was....There was accroding to her a 4 warranty...which ill assume should have read 24 hours...But even if it was 4 hours...Then Dans has NO obligation to this woman in any shape form or fashion...

I know if it was Me...and I had sold her this snake that was doing fine and every other litter mate was also doing fine and then after more than a month in her care then i would have to put the blame squarely on the keeper...
 
Tokaylover said:
Tim has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread. His name was mentioned because she had originally wanted the het albino circleback which WAS produced by Tim, which is not the snake we are talking about. She wanted the het and then changed her mind to the normal, so the paperwork must have been mixed up. Which is yes, Dan's fault for not correcting the paperwork. Dan told her friend or her that the normal red-tail she bought did not have any paperwork since it was obtained from a local breeder in Cleveland. I'm going to go have a beer.
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Just curious how that is possible? The screenshot shows "here is your normal
phase red-tail boa. Followed by it was produced by Tim. If you never bought normals from Tim, how could that mistake happen? That's not a paperwork mix up.
 
the circle back 100% het albino male you originaly wanted came from Tim. I told you originaly that there was no paper work on the snake. you then changed you mind to a $75 normal red tail boa. I told you i did not have any papers originally. you wanted something, anything in writing because of your concern for the new FL, laws. You asked to put any info I had on paper for you incase you had issues in the future due to FL laws. I TOLD YOU I WOULD PUT DOWN ANY INFO I HAD. TIM HAS NOTING TO DO WITH THE NORMALS AND THE CIRCLE BACK I HAVE WAS ON TRADE AS WELL. a lot of vendors trade and animals pass through a lot of hands, so yes info gets confused and for this i do appologize. If tims name was on a paper in the box i shipped you then it was in there by accident, i send out a lot of animals and sometimes this stuff happens. I will have the persons name of who PRODUCED this snake for you tomorrow. All the snakes that have come from this clutch apparently are doing just fine aside from yours, and a month and a half is plenty of time to kill or injure a snake, so if you would call me like i asked allready we can take care of this and get you all the proper info you need.
 
Kairo said:
You're missing the whole point! I was sold a snake that was a product of Tim K. and got an email an hour ago saying the other Boa (Het, albino) is a product of Tim K. TIM. K. DID NOT HAVE ANY BOAS HE SOLD OFF IN MARCH!!! Sure he would talk to me, it's his reputation at stake. His name being used!!!!

You see? Would you be mad? I was mislead. False statements, and a sick snake.
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I know Tim I talk to him a few times a month. I know he did not have any boas he produced for sale in march.

I am posting all this to help. I am giving the info I know.

See I posted about the name becuase I was telling Ed that Dan meant Tim and just spelled the last name wrong. I am not saying the paper work is right

I am even going as far as getting the name of the breeder if I can. JUST TO HELP.

I do not know the health of the snake you have. But you said that it could have come from the breeder and the group could be sick. I have or had a lot of the group. Nothing wrong. I posted that to help you out saying hey it could be just the boa!

Would I be upset? yeah. Would I give the other party time to fix it............ Yeah.
 
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