High End Herps (Inquiry)

[HerpVenue]

HEH

Post your business license showing your Incorporation (dated before today's date)
Post your picture of your license showing you are David Beauchemin. DOS before today's date.

Do so in 24 hours. ( I know you read this without us seeing you so don't pretend to not see my offer on time.

I will personally send $150 into your paypal account

that is a free $150 I will even post screen shots of the paypal transaction for everyone to see.

i will then apologize profusely and have webslave ban me for 6 months.
I will also send 1% of my 2006 income to Multiple Sclerosis foundation in your name.

I just put my money where my mouth is..

You know me and my gut feelings.
I basically have 99.9% chance of keeping my money.



you said you do not respond to threats, intimidation or blackmail.
No problem. here is positive reinforcement right here....will you now respond?

A picture of the guy they say I am was put up and those that have met me in person verify that it is not me.

Should I put his quote back up. Saying at first glance its a no but he can't be sure is not the same as saying it is a no

me saying I dont want to have sex but can't be sure is not the same as saying I definately do not want to have sex

 

[BenR]

Caramel is actually the name Brian Smith gave his rock/burm female. I remember he did use to have some carmel phase dumeril's boas though. They looked like normal dumerils to me in the pics he sent me, but that was what he called them....lol

If you look at BrianSmiths gallary all his snakes have goofy names and are in plywood cages. I wonder how many other so called big breeders use plywood and name their snakes?

 

[BryonsBoas]

I thought I would point out 1 thing that crossed my mind while reading this thread. Its fairly possible Damon/David / Whoever won't post a picture ID due to not having one. If all forms of written payment , i.e. checks & money orders , are made out to the wife, it could be from not have sufficient proof of identity to get his own checking account or being added to hers.

It could also be that he has her hung out to dry accepting payments in her name if the need to run ever pops up again but i'm thinking hes just not smart enough to forge documents needed to get a new ID under a false name.

Just a thought.

 

[FunkyRes]

HEH is the only one in the reptile world who wants broke people to buy snakes instead of food.

Oh come on - that 16 foot burm I bought has got enough meat on it to last me all winter!

 

[Ravens_Mama]

Ok this is going to address the Doctored image accusations
Pic #1 - This is a Burm and A Retic.....except ive seen this image on kingsnake forums and its the exact image of the BURM without the Retic...if you look that retic has been pasted in...my theory is since he says he produced bats that he actually needed an image to show potential customers that the snake they were buying came from this pairing....its faded doesnt really lay right it just LOOKS wrong...am i the only one who sees this???

Pic #2-5 - These are some of the 66% Double Het Green/Granite babies HEH purchased from Jim Mason. After these will be images #6-9 which are the two that i own from that same exact clutch....now if these babies had in fact been colored as HEH advertises them to be do you honestly think they would have been available for him to buy a Group of them ??? Do you think honestly that they would have been priced at $150-$300?? Also what kind of idiot would i have been to purchase the two i did versus the ones HEH did if they truely looked as he shows them because compared to HEH's photos my two girls look completely washed out and pathetic.
These four images were taken directly from his ads on Kingsnake.com

Images #6-9 - These are MY two Albino 66% Double Het Green/Granites bought directly from Jim Mason...chosen from the whole clutch....i looked at every image available of that clutch...you can ask Jim i was a pain in the ass wanting to see them all and even multiple photos before i decided.

 

[HerpVenue]

His pic number 5 is definately not normal.
It is all about hues and definately contrast.
look at the ink of the newspaper in 4 compared to the newspaper in 5.
Newspaper in five has contrast turned UP

Here you go. I was just playing

 

[Ravens_Mama]

Ahhh my poor Topaz has gone Neon lol

Ok here are some more images of babies from that clutch .....this is my proof that he has doctored those images and is in fact LYING when he comes on here and says that those babies look exactly how they do in his pictures...you people wanted Proof of his lying deceitful scamming ways well dispute this if you can.....

 

[dutchallison00]

I would be real curious, after all of the circumstantial evidence that has been provided, if Fuscus and James Mcghee still feel as though David is legit. They are the only 2 that have supported David. Do you still support him as he has indicated?

Griz

First let me say that nothing shocks me. David could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt tomorrow to be a 9 year old girl who found a laptop and it would not shock me. That doesn't mean I feel strongly that it will happen; just that it wouldn't shock me. I haven't seen he and his wife's birth certificates, I haven't seen he and Damon Heynen in the same room at the same time, he's never sent me copies of his tax number or a receipt of an animal he sold 10 yrs. ago, so I suppose that there is no way that I can say with certainty that I am 1000% sure that he is who he claims and that you're all uniformly incorrect... the same as how I couldn't make that claim of anyone else who's posted here.

That being said, let me tell you what I do know. I like David Beauchemin. I consider him a friend. I CAN say with absolute certainty that in regards to the dealings, conversations etc. that he and I have had, that he has been better to me by one thousand fold than anyone I've met in the reptile industry... and I've met some very good folks. I can also say with absolute certainty that I've talked with several people (including this thread's originator) that are not only happy, but delighted with the quality of his animals and his complete willingness to go drastically above and beyond what would be expected of him. It has quite literally shocked myself and the few others that I've talked to. In short he has given, and given, and given to me with absolutely no thought of getting anything in return. He has provided me with experienced assistance and advice literally hundreds of times and has never once steered me wrong or lied to me. I have a relatively large, relatively valuable, extremely healthy collection of animals that is breeding/ gravid for me right now, and will allow me to take my own offspring to market this year for the very first time... and I have him to thank for it. I haven't given David a single dime of my money, a single animal of my own, or generated anything at all that has positively impacted his business. The only thing that he's gotten from me is a friend. In all likelihood I will be able to quit my 9-5 in the next 2-3 years and live comfortably for many years to come doing something that I absolutely love, and I will have him to thank for it. To say that I owe him one would be the world's biggest understatement... I can say without exaggeration that the man changed my life. And again, he got nothing out of it other than a friend.

On the other hand there is the circumstantial evidence that you referred to in this thread. A collection of thoughts and accusations that has kept it at or near the top of the BOI for what seems like forever, provided mainly by four or five guys and gals. Such damning evidence that David is Damon like the unimaginable coincidence that he lives east of California... just like Damon!!!!! (That's probably my personal favorite) Or the idea that there is no doubt in anyone's mind that he has no sort of business license because one member here was unable to find articles of incorporation on the internet... oddly enough a member that likely wouldn't want to find them if they were there. I'm not suggesting that he found them and lied about it, I'm merely pointing out the circumstantial evidence. There was also the straw that broke the camel's back where pictures from animals produced by Jim Mason were compared to posts David has made to "show" that the photos had been doctored because of their dissimilarities. Never mind the fact that the animals bought from Mason were albino burms het for something and the animals in David's post were albino hybrids and green burms (similar to comparing apples to dog S#!T). That of course doesn't matter. I could go on and on and honestly when I do sit down and read this thread every day I wish I could respond individually to every absurdity that I see. Unfortunately I haven't got the time. Have I seen a handful of ideas that are at least somewhat intriguing??? Certainly. However when I step back and look at the general tone of this thread and the active participants in it, the absurdities are overwhelming, and for me take any legitimacy of the accusers away. Like I said I may in fact be wrong and if so I will gladly apologize to everyone here. However Bob, if you're asking me to pick sides between a man that has never given me any reason to say even the slightest thing bad about him, and a obvious, bloodthirsty handful of witch hunters who are willing to do things like relentlessly pick on a guy for driving his snakes to David, then the answer is easy. The attackers have operated this thread in a fashion that would make Joseph McCarthy proud. In other words no, nothing in this thread has made me change my mind about anything as the overwhelming majority of it is conjured fluff. It's done nothing other than amaze me at how valueless and repetitive some of these threads can become. Again, I have no wish to offend or pick a fight, but if convincing to an outsider is what you're after here... you just haven't made the case.

P.S. Another tidbit... One has to do nothing more than watch one episode of Law & Order to know that a burden of proof IS on the accuser and NOT on the accused. Furthermore the idea that circumstantial evidence is oftentimes enough to convict is simply incorrect. It is however oftentimes enough to acquit.

 

[Ravens_Mama]

Dutch,
The images i posted of the burms were taken directly from his classified ads....he says that those images are 100% accurate.....that if i were to pay him twice what they were originally going for when Jim had them....i would open that box and pull out a snake identical to the images he has provided and advertised with. Which is why i took the images of HEH's version and Jims images and put them up for comparison.....Did you look at them? do you not see something wrong?? Hell maybe Louisiana has color enhancers in their water i dont know....but i do know those babies no longer resemble what they looked like when he purchased them according to HEH's claims and images. Also if those babies actually did glow and pop like that HEH would be selling them for a WHOLE lot more they would more then likely be placed right up there with his snakes in the thousands because he would have the first Neon Burms. Im not trying to change anyones opinion of HEH my only goal in all this is to prevent people from being scammed and taken in by these doctored images and would really appreciate some Honesty from HEH but im not holding my breathe....his has yet to come clean when confronted but continues to come off as being offended when caught red handed in an obvious lie....its the same on ANY forum that he is questioned on. Because of this in my book he is a person undeserving of any respect. Respect is earned not bought or given by bribary or even threats. IF HEH is such a good honerable entity then why in private message does he resort to name calling and threats and degrading remarks?

JenJen

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Can you pair the pictures up? What I mean is, I am going up and down, up and down, trying to match them up. Richie's is obvious, it's the same picture, with different color.

Are you saying some of those pictures are the same animal, but doctored photo's? Or are you just saying the photo's are doctored? Just asking cuz i see dissimilarities in some of the markings.

Again, not taking sides, just yet, but since I aint the brightest crayon in the box, maybe I missed the point? Maybe I need something more obvious, like so.........

 

[Lucille]

That being said, let me tell you what I do know. I like David Beauchemin. I consider him a friend.

You have had hundreds of conversations with this person and he is a friend of yours. I think you may be able to provide some answers to some reasonable questions.
I am still curious about a question I mentioned earlier that has not been addressed and maybe you have an insight as to the answer.

These days, there are all sorts of ways to pay for stuff. Credit card payments are some of the best because not only is there a record, there is some safety built in, in the form of chargebacks if one is the victim of a fraudulent sale.

Yet David apparently requires payment in the form of postal money orders which are inconvenient to purchase and difficult to deal with from the standpoint of an unsatisfactory sale.

Why has he chosen to require such an unusual and inconvenient method of payment?

 

[Otter_23]

Richard I believe the point she is making is the first batch of pictures put up are one's he has posted. The second batch are her personal animals. Both batch of pictures came from the same clutch, yet his appear to pop and have much more color to them. Different animals same clutch.

 

[Wraith]

Richard I believe the point she is making is the first batch of pictures put up are one's he has posted. The second batch are her personal animals. Both batch of pictures came from the same clutch, yet his appear to pop and have much more color to them. Different animals same clutch.

and Ritchie was able to doctor her photos to get the same effect as seen in HEH's supposedly 100% undoctored photos...proof that HEH did doctor his photos and lie to people about the appearance of the animals he had for sale.

Adrian

 

[Wraith]

I agree Bobby. If he has a questionable past, he needs to atone. But so far, NOBODY has proved he is this other guy. This is the point I'm making. i know we got some pretty good detectives around here when it comes to obtainable records. Why don't they see if he has a DL in his state, under his name? If he satisfied the state, it should do here. Right?

You can't legally obtain the DL information in Louisiana without permission from the person who's record you are attempting to obtain information from.

http://www.dmv.org/la-louisiana/driving-records.php

Requests and Fees

It's easy to request your own driving record. However, when requesting a driving record for someone other than yourself, you must provide written authorization from that person in addition to the standard documentation.

Ok, so let's assume David doesn't have a DL, then he still needs to be able to show a photo ID for various reasons when interacting with people and such..yes? So why can't he show a legal photo ID card in place of a DL as proof to people he is who he says he is?

http://www.dmv.org/la-louisiana/id-cards.php

While not everyone drives, everyone is going to need picture identification at some point. What better way to obtain the identification you need than by applying for a Louisiana non-driver ID card?

With your ID card, you get all the benefits of a driver's license. The only difference is that you just aren't allowed to drive.

Adrian

 

[The BoidSmith]

Ok, so let's assume David doesn't have a DL, then he still needs to be able to show a photo ID for various reasons when interacting with people and such..yes? So why can't he show a legal photo ID card in place of a DL as proof to people he is who he says he is?{/QUOTE]

The following is a general statement and not addressing David Beauchemin in any way. There are countless (obviously there's no way to know the exact number) of people living in the US undocumented or under false identities. Yes, they lead a "marginal life" in most cases, but they are around.

 

[Wraith]

Or the idea that there is no doubt in anyone's mind that he has no sort of business license because one member here was unable to find articles of incorporation on the internet... oddly enough a member that likely wouldn't want to find them if they were there. I'm not suggesting that he found them and lied about it, I'm merely pointing out the circumstantial evidence.

http://www.louisiana.gov/wps/wcm/connect/Louisiana.gov/Business+in+Louisiana/Starting+a+Business/

First Stop Shop for Business
"Licensing information center" provides comprehensive information about the services offered for prospective small business owners. Determines licenses and permits which must be obtained and maintained by individuals conducting business in Louisiana. Information includes: obtaining ID numbers for federal, state, and local sales taxes; registering a business name, hiring employees, occupational licensing, and researching small business resources.

Seems to me that with that statement, by Lousiana standards, one must register and/or have lic/permits for a business in order to do business as.


As noted in the BOI Good Guy Certification Forum
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77871

Company Name: High End Herps Inc
Owner Name: David and Tawni Beauchemin
Address: 1568 Ward Rd. Oakdale, LA 71463
Phone: (318) 335-3673

http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/comm/fss/fss-index.htm

Business Structures

Individual or Sole Proprietorship - A business where only you, or your spouse, own the business even though you may have employees.

Partnership - A business where two or more people own the business jointly.

Corporation - A business which is treated by law as an entity. It has a life separate from its owners or stockholders. Many corporations begin as a sole proprietor or partnership.

Limited Liability Company -An entity that is an unincorporated association having one or more members organized and filing articles with the Secretary of State.

A corporation is by law an entity. Seems like HEH is committing FRAUD by calling themselves and doing business as something they are not. Committing fraud is not a very 'good guy' thing to do... not very legal either I believe.

HEH calls themselves a corporation. No record of their corporation can be found in public records for louisiana or any other state. ANYONE can search for that information. It would be a bit off base to insinuate that Ritchie is hiding anything that he might have found with his searches.

At the very least, go look for yourself that David's business doesn't exist in Louisiana: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/app1/paygate/crpinq.jsp

I tried individual & business keyword searches for: Beauchemin - no matches.
I tried individual & business keyword searches for: baucheman - no matches.
I tried individual & business keyword searches for: David - no matches.
I tried individual & business keyword searches for: Tawni - no matches.
I tried individual & business keyword searches for: Herps - no matches.
I tried individual & business keyword searches for: High End - no matches.
I tried individual & business keyword searches for: High End Herps - no matches.

Adrian

 

[Wraith]

The following is a general statement and not addressing David Beauchemin in any way. There are countless (obviously there's no way to know the exact number) of people living in the US undocumented or under false identities. Yes, they lead a "marginal life" in most cases, but they are around.

Why would someone as grand and big a business as HEH claims to be that has supposedly been in existance for years, need to live a marginal life of no identity?

Adrian

 

[The BoidSmith]

Why would someone as grand and big a business as HEH claims to be that has supposedly been in existance for years, need to live a marginal life of no identity?

Mmmmh? Is that a trick question?

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Just a quisk thumbnail scenario

Not saying this is necessarily the case but here is the most likely scenario I can think of

Mr. Heynan has ruined his name in the industry and has all manner of other baggage weighing him down as well.

Last seen heading east through Arizona WITH at least a major portion of his collection

Damon realkizes that doing business as himself is not possible.

Damon hooks up with Tawni.

Damon now reinvents himself as "David" and "borrow's Tawni's last name for purposes of advertising his animals.

All documentation, billing, payments, amd anything requiring paperwork are in Tawni's bame Damon / David does not need any ID. He has nothing in his name.





May not be the case but it sounds pretty plausible to me

 

[HerpVenue]

Originally Posted by dutchallison00
Or the idea that there is no doubt in anyone's mind that he has no sort of business license because one member here was unable to find articles of incorporation on the internet... oddly enough a member that likely wouldn't want to find them if they were there. I'm not suggesting that he found them and lied about it, I'm merely pointing out the circumstantial evidence.

Actually, you are wrong.
I did not know either way. I just saw some "circumstancial evidene".
That is the reason I asked questions.
When he would not answer questions is when I searched.

I have been away from the BOI for a number of years. so I was a bit rusty and a bit worried about making mistakes. So I wanted......No, I NEEDED to find them before i made accusations that would come back to bite me in the butt.

Didn't want to find them? Why did it take me a week? I should have came back in an hour and said I could not find any. You have to search all 50 states. You can't just go looking in Louisiana.

And if he truly is an INC...why do payments need to be made out to Tawni?
Why can't they be made out to High End Herps INC?

To get my bank to accept checks in my business name, I had to provide copies of my licenses.

you touched on the fact that just because they both lived in the south, does not make them the same person.

Funny thing is....you forgot to make comments on the rest of the "circumstancial Evidence


Website is registered in Cali
Damon is from Cali

Website registered by the same people who bought Damon's property.

Damon was last seen going to the south.
Davids are in the south.

David has a closed collection but can't explain how he ended up with Damon's snakes......a mere two months after Damon disappears.

damon pretends to have a big business
Davids pretend to have a big business.

damon is interested mainly in burms retics and their crosses. (but keeps other snakes)
Davids are interested in the same.

damon does not answer questions.
Davids do not answer questions.

damon doctors his pictures
Davids doctor your pictures

damon builds his enclosures
Davids build your enclosures

damon offers 4 month guarantee
David offers four month guarantee

damon offers lifetime exchange
David offers lifetime exchange

damon want the little people to afford "high end" stuff
David wants the same.

damon had an open colony but claimed to have a closed one
David also have an open colony but claimed to have a closed one

damon always cried that anyone can come here and make accusations on anyone else without needing proof
David had a "friend" tell you the exact same thing and then you proceeded to cry about it like damon does
freind = David's alter ego named damon

Damon hates Bob clark and Mike
David hates bob clark and Mike

Damon pretended to have a legitimate business entity.
David is doing the same.

Damon pretended to have TONS of money and Facilities
David is doing the same.

Damon pretended to have done LOTS and LOTS of business.
David is doing the same thing.





wouldn't want to find them?
I offered $150 to come post a Driver's License, a State License, city License.
I also offered to humbly apologize and get banned for 6 months.
I also offered to send to Multiple scelrosis foundation in his name 1% of my 2006 income.
I not only posted. I also e-mailed it to him. Don't want to find them? I put my money where my mouth is. I was paying to find him.



Want to do something fruitful?
ask him for pics of his sunkist boas.

You say we discounted the other guy who saw his facilities and vouched for him.
If you remember this "other guy" also mentioned that he did not see one discusting cage. What the hell did he do? close his eyes? I can provide you pics david posted himself.....the cages where discusting. In fact in a couple of pictures.....he PAINTED in a solid color for the background and floor. To hide the discusting cage.