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Sharpshooter said:
Yes, Harald. This a very complex topic. Unless you are willing to address it directly, Then STFU.
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Thats a very harsh response...Especially to Harald,as he is definetly one of the good guys..Hopfully these worthless breeders like Nicole will clean up their acts soon..One day they will rip off the wrong person,and they will end up hurt or dead....All it takes is one crazy person for that to happen..The sad thing is all these people could aviod such ridicule if they knew how to treat people..No one knows why their heads are up their rectums,but they are..All we can do is ask them to pull them out..I guess we can start with Nicole,and work from there.....
 
i will take thew loss

hay i got nothing to do with this but if you give me a fair price shipped and again your unhappy i will take her off you hand never the less i think customer garantee is verry inportant thank you so jose 305 970 6656
 
protech said:
hay i got nothing to do with this but if you give me a fair price shipped and again your unhappy i will take her off you hand never the less i think customer garantee is verry inportant thank you so jose 305 970 6656
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im not quite sure i understand what you are saying here (though i have been up since 5am so im kinda dazed right now lol)
 
ok I thought I posted updated pics earlier but I guess I must have not hit the right button

so here she is no more color ber legs look tobe in shed but not the rest of her
 
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sjsexotics said:
ok I thought I posted updated pics earlier but I guess I must have not hit the right button

so here she is no more color ber legs look tobe in shed but not the rest of her
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Wow, look at that.:nonod:. I wonder what she was thinking when she posted that??? Did she think she wouldn't have upset the buyer with the sales picture and the actual dragon.

Sense Nicole doesnt wanna talk to me i think somebody needs to ask her whats the deal now??? Didnt she want an apology when the animal colored up? Well Its not coloring up, so what does Sheena get? I hope more than an apology!!!

This makes me sick.
 
Living proof that a high price does NOT necessarily denote a quality animal, neither does a low price indicate an inferior animal.

This is ABSOLUTELY not an animal for which I would spend over 50.00.

But she IS cute, I be she has a darling personality!
 
the female dragon

hay dont get upset at the dragon if any one of you guys dont want her i will buy her i think she looks good reply to me please jose miami fl 305 970-6656
 
the female dragon

hay she seems to be neglected i will buy her off you hands if you give me a fair shipped price i think she will get some color in hes soon
 
sjsexotics said:
so here she is no more color ber legs look tobe in shed but not the rest of her
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These 2 pics show 2 things.
1. a dragon that is in shed, its easy to see the underlying red color. the dragon needs to shed to uncover that color.

2. this is a very scared dragon, look at the eyes and also look at the way she has hunkered down in the pic because she is afraid.


deborahbroadus said:
Living proof that a high price does NOT necessarily denote a quality animal, neither does a low price indicate an inferior animal.

This is ABSOLUTELY not an animal for which I would spend over 50.00.
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Deborah do you know anything about the genetics of this dragon or the parents that produced her? if not why would you post such an inflammatory statement?
 
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protech said:
hay she seems to be neglected i will buy her off you hands if you give me a fair shipped price i think she will get some color in hes soon
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I HIGHLY doubt tha dragon is being neglected Jose..You really shouldnt have said that...Being at 5 posts,it sounds like you might be one of Nicole's friends??Maybe you pose as someone wanting to buy it for a cheap price,and then send it to Nicole so she can sell it again?Being as though she will not admitt here wrong doing,and knows Sheena is unhappy with her purchase,she might be trying to capitalize on this and make money off of it again..God knows she would never be a stand up person and come on here and want to purchase it back herself..I would check this guy's ip address as well...
 
Ed Clark said:
Deborah do you know anything about the genetics of this dragon or the parents that produced her? if not why would you post such an inflammatory statement?
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:ack2:This post isn't about GENETICS it's about DOCTORED PHOTOGRAPHS.

I would not pay over 50.00 for THAT animal because it didn't look like the picture advertised. :NoNo:
 
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Ed Clark said:
These 2 pics show 2 things.
1. a dragon that is in shed, its easy to see the underlying red color. the dragon needs to shed to uncover that color.

2. this is a very scared dragon, look at the eyes and also look at the way she has hunkered down in the pic because she is afraid.



Deborah do you know anything about the genetics of this dragon or the parents that produced her? if not why would you post such an inflammatory statement?
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Ed, just because a limb or two or head is shedding doesnt mean that the whole body color dulles out... (i have a pictured example posted). See how the two legs are in shed and a portion of the head??? but that yellow doesnt look dull on even the outskirts of the shed. And before the dragon hits a solid shed, it gets a white haze look to where its going to shed. Sheena's dragon does not have that.

"This is a very scared looking dragon". :rolleyes:

I really dont see "fear" or a "scared dragon". For one the stress bars would be showing and she would be alot darker on her belly..

Actually lets do look at the eyes??? What i see is what some breeders refer to as "drupe eye syndrome" see how there is more of the eye showing at the bottom of the eye? where it should be covered by the eye lid. While not proven to be unhealthy. Most breeders tend to steer away from that. It doesnt look good. and more prone to get substrate in there eyes. Which now makes me ask, What is Nicole Breeding over there???
 
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Actually lets do look at the eyes??? What i see is what some breeders refer to as "drupe eye syndrome" see how there is more of the eye showing at the bottom of the eye? where it should be covered by the eye lid. While not proven to be unhealthy. Most breeders tend to steer away from that. It doesnt look good. and more prone to get substrate in there eyes. Which now makes me ask, What is Nicole Breeding over there???
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Overpriced garbage seems to be the consensus. :shrug01
 
Ed Clark said:
These 2 pics show 2 things.
1. a dragon that is in shed, its easy to see the underlying red color. the dragon needs to shed to uncover that color.

2. this is a very scared dragon, look at the eyes and also look at the way she has hunkered down in the pic because she is afraid.




Deborah do you know anything about the genetics of this dragon or the parents that produced her? if not why would you post such an inflammatory statement?
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man i was on nicoles side till i saw updated pics of the dragon. That is not shed coloring ed and you know it as well as the rest of us you just feel some obligation to back her up even if its obviously a lie. And to say that the dragon is cowering and afraid is the most hillarious thing you have ever said that i have witnessed. That dragon has no stress lines (as you can see the side of its stomach which is white) and its beard is a calm orange color not grey or black tinged which would be a sign of being scared. I really cant believe you said that lol.

Anywho, though i was on Nicole's side up to this point. That dragon is not going to be the color it was in the photo that was used in the sale ad. Not even close.
 
spyder79 said:
man i was on nicoles side till i saw updated pics of the dragon. That is not shed coloring ed and you know it as well as the rest of us you just feel some obligation to back her up even if its obviously a lie. And to say that the dragon is cowering and afraid is the most hillarious thing you have ever said that i have witnessed. That dragon has no stress lines (as you can see the side of its stomach which is white) and its beard is a calm orange color not grey or black tinged which would be a sign of being scared. I really cant believe you said that lol.

Anywho, though i was on Nicole's side up to this point. That dragon is not going to be the color it was in the photo that was used in the sale ad. Not even close.
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THANK YOU!

Sheena's FIRST pictures were good enough to make that call, but understanding that not everyone wants to see the bad in someone!

So now after all this, now what??? Does this not call for a full refund? Whats the agreement??? i think its time to resolve this so we can move on... I know some of us wants this behind us. Right Nicole?
 
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