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i love her new attempt to save her rep doing an auction that Jeff already pointed out they have nothing to do with since she told them thats her only reason she putting those dragons up for auction its not like she cares about the people that the moneys going to
 
capt._howdy said:
i love her new attempt to save her rep doing an auction that Jeff already pointed out they have nothing to do with since she told them thats her only reason she putting those dragons up for auction its not like she cares about the people that the moneys going to
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Russ,

Now I will agree with you that its a bad attempt to salvage her reputation, but, saying that she doesnt care might be a little harsh ya think? She is actually lucky "Critical Bill" hasnt been able to post in this thread.
 
StrictlyExotics said:
Russ,

Now I will agree with you that its a bad attempt to salvage her reputation, but, saying that she doesnt care might be a little harsh ya think? She is actually lucky "Critical Bill" hasnt been able to post in this thread.
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but he has in her past post and jeff even said shes just doing it to make herself look good not to help critical bill and come on she locked the thread after jeff said they wanted nothing to do with her.
 
you know what saying she doesnt care maybe harsh but its Nicole if doesnt even care about making her customers happy why would she care about some one that has nothing to do with her
 
capt._howdy said:
but he has in her past post and jeff even said shes just doing it to make herself look good not to help critical bill and come on she locked the thread after jeff said they wanted nothing to do with her.
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Oh dont get me wrong. We ALL know whats going on with that thread. All I am saying is she MIGHT have a heart is all... LoL
 
capt._howdy said:
i love her new attempt to save her rep doing an auction that Jeff already pointed out they have nothing to do with since she told them thats her only reason she putting those dragons up for auction its not like she cares about the people that the moneys going to
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Actually, she deleted the ad with the comments that Jeff wasn't affiliated with her auction, and put up a new one (locked of course so that no one can point it out again). Pretty low move.

Perhaps there is a heart there under all that, but I'd be willing to bet anyone who's read her BOI threads sees right through to what the real intention probably is. :shrug01:
 
I can understand her locking it so people couldn't post comments; but I find it interesting that she is running a closed auction. With no evidence of bidding, it relies a lot on trust...trust that somebody actually bid, trust that the bid is what she says, trust that she's going to send the full amount. Maybe some people could pull that off, but I don't envision her having much success at this point in time - even for a cause with a lot of current support.
 
That women is one big pile of trash..I hope she has no luck with the auction..Her parents must have had a hand in raising her to be the way she is..I mean they are letting her marry Ed of all people...I bet she still reads this thread...Have you got any morals and values yet Nicole...?
 
hhmoore said:
I can understand her locking it so people couldn't post comments; but I find it interesting that she is running a closed auction. With no evidence of bidding, it relies a lot on trust...trust that somebody actually bid, trust that the bid is what she says, trust that she's going to send the full amount. Maybe some people could pull that off, but I don't envision her having much success at this point in time - even for a cause with a lot of current support.
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How is she aloud to do that?..She could easily continue to raise the bids on her own..This one is definetly a head scratcher....
 
Iraqvet said:
How is she aloud to do that?..She could easily continue to raise the bids on her own..This one is definetly a head scratcher....
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:shrug01: She can raise the bids on her own, she can lie and say it was shipped out, or she can give it to a friend and have the friend post a "good guy" thread about the transaction....

What I am wondering is...who is going to make sure that Chuck actually benefits from her auction? Does she have to send the money PAYPAL to the originator of the auctions? If she does, no matter how she slices it, CHUCK comes out ahead.
 
i love these threads they are a great idea calling out people on bad service and or animals but really 45 pages i think every one gets the pic she is a scum bag leave it at that and lets move on. i would think the moderaters would have put a cabosh on this by now i am new here but not sure if i like fauna. WE all talk about being serious about our hobby or buisnesses so please move on let it go and lets talk herps. just my oppinion.
 
deborahbroadus said:
:shrug01: She can raise the bids on her own, she can lie and say it was shipped out, or she can give it to a friend and have the friend post a "good guy" thread about the transaction....

What I am wondering is...who is going to make sure that Chuck actually benefits from her auction? Does she have to send the money PAYPAL to the originator of the auctions? If she does, no matter how she slices it, CHUCK comes out ahead.
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IF Chuck gets anything,then yes he will come out ahead..Thats a BIG IF..She has shown she dosnt mind burning people for her benefit..Ed will rub off on her more and more each day...We all know how that is playing out..Right now I think her auction was up to $40...We will see if it is increased to $789 by tonight...Its a very sad day when someone uses a situation like this for personal gain...As I have no doubt Nicole is doing this merely for herself...
 
Iraqvet said:
IF Chuck gets anything,then yes he will come out ahead..Thats a BIG IF..She has shown she dosnt mind burning people for her benefit..Ed will rub off on her more and more each day...We all know how that is playing out..Right now I think her auction was up to $40...We will see if it is increased to $789 by tonight...Its a very sad day when someone uses a situation like this for personal gain...As I have no doubt Nicole is doing this merely for herself...
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Oh, I agree with your assessment of the situation. What I was actually trying to do without coming right out and spelling it out was point to a possible hole in the proceedings that could be plugged so that she didn't benefit.

If everyone agree to have all donations go though ONE paypal account (the one already set up) if her donation does not come though, she has done herself MORE harm.

This method could also possibly prevent others from trying to benefit from Chuck's situation (having sales and not donating the money)?:shrug01:
 
gsrept said:
i love these threads they are a great idea calling out people on bad service and or animals but really 45 pages i think every one gets the pic she is a scum bag leave it at that and lets move on. i would think the moderaters would have put a cabosh on this by now i am new here but not sure if i like fauna. WE all talk about being serious about our hobby or buisnesses so please move on let it go and lets talk herps. just my oppinion.
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Well,if you forget the past you will repeat it in the future...There are sections on here that are made just for herp converstaion...
 
Deborah - Nicole stated in her auction that payment would be made directly to the people hosting the benefit. (their names were removed because they are not involved with that auction, but any bidder asked to send payment to Nicole would be within their rights to decline, IMO)
 
deborahbroadus said:
Oh, I agree with your assessment of the situation. What I was actually trying to do without coming right out and spelling it out was point to a possible hole in the proceedings that could be plugged so that she didn't benefit.

If everyone agree to have all donations go though ONE paypal account (the one already set up) if her donation does not come though, she has done herself MORE harm.

This method could also possibly prevent others from trying to benefit from Chuck's situation (having sales and not donating the money)?:shrug01:
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Yeah,thats the problem..Only she knows whats going on...Someone could bid high and she could keep the add saying low...There is to much dookie involved in her businness practice to take her serious..Nicole do the right thing and unlock the add..No one will go post on it..This is your chance to save atleast alittle face...
 
Iraqvet said:
Yeah,thats the problem..Only she knows whats going on...Someone could bid high and she could keep the add saying low...There is to much dookie involved in her businness practice to take her serious..Nicole do the right thing and unlock the add..No one will go post on it..This is your chance to save atleast alittle face...
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One thing I definitely agree on is that, for the benfactors sake, if she unlocks the auction to legitimize it, we should not post crap about her. I will not associate myself with her or Ed but, the way she is running her auction leaves too many holes.

Personally, Id like to see her have a chance to show herself in a different light, maybe one without the shadow coming from Ed. I am sure that she is bitter that Jeff and Christina did not want to associate themselves with her, but, in all reality, they arent affiliated with any of the breeders so its not like they would be held liable anyhow.

For me, I look at the cause. Its for a good cause. The problem is that her TOS would become an issue if something were to happen to the animal.

Nicole, unlock your auction and let people see what the bids are and let them be able to ask you questions. I can speak for myself only, but, I will not post any bull:censored: in your auction. I would be inclined to believe that a lot of people here would leave you be in the auction thread, for the most part. I know you read this thread, you have to if you care about your business.

Locking your auction for fear of bad posts is one thing. But, to lock your thread makes it seem a little "scam-ish" even when arent trying to be. I hope you make sense of what I am saying to you because I legitimately want to believe that you have a heart.

Hell, I have noticed that, I too, actually have a heart. Unlocking your thread would be a step in the right direction in my eyes.
 
I am only posting this as I feel this was not needed I am doing this for Chuck I am not doing it for myself in any way I think Chuck is a very nice guy I spoke to him before and I wanted to help out. I personally know how awful Hospital Bills are I was hospitalized once with a Broken Pelvis and my Gramps for three Major Heart Attacks; Those are all legit bids one by email and one by PM the reason the thread is locked it because you guys threatened to post things on it; I do not want something like that being Trashed is all you can't blame me. I saved all the emails bids and the PM's just incase they are needed and the only payment I will take is shipping everything else I will have the winner send directly to WiseReptiles. They also have the option of sending all of the money to WiseReptiles and then they would send the shipping end of it to me.

I am sorry you see this as me trying to make some sort of gain but it is not you might not like me but I am just trying to help chucks family out nothing more. The winner will get their choice of a baby from the clutch in about 2 weeks when they are old enough to ship and it really is good timing as temps will be much better for shipping the dragon out. When the babies hit the size/age for shipping I will be emailing or PMing the winner to find out what gender they are looking for and then send a group picture from that; I will unlock that Ad if you guy would please not post anything on it other than legit bids this is for Chuck and I do not want to see that ruined.

On another note I made major changes to my Terms of Service though it is called "Our Guarantee" on my website feel free to look it over (www.HGDragons.com); I hope this will not be held over my head for a long time I just guess I need to learn a bit more on the customer service side of things I actually had a few people from this thread which I was asked to keep their names off of this helping me with that. I will say that I work my butt off with my dragons I do fecals on every dragon every month...yes a little over board according to some but I do not want to ever have issues come up with ANY Health problems.

I know the whole other fecal's thing was a big thing on this BOI I have done many since that thread went up on BD.org I am doing it to help others out there especially those who do not have herp vets near by I in no way make myself out to be a vet or anything like that but from doing my own fecal's I have gotten a lot of experience with identifying Parasites I am not providing any medications my friend Tracie who is very knowledgeable with dragons is doing that part based on my counts and the picture I take using a Microscope Camera; she is a Moderator on BeardedDragon.org. A few also stated you do not need Fecasol and so on; I not only run Smears which is what most people do but I also do Fecal Floats which give me an accurate way to count and identify any eggs from parasites to do a Fecal float I have to have Float Kits and Fecasol. And on the Immersion Oil comment I have to use that with my Microscope when I use the most powerful lens as the lens actually touch's the cover slip of the slide this allows the sample to be seen much more clearly and it allows me not only to see Coccidia but to identify what strain it is.

I hope this clears a few things up; but please do not post anything on my auction there is no need for that I simply trying to raise money for Chuck not myself; I also would appreciate it if you did not post on any of my ads I would never do that to anyone as I feel that is a form of Harassment. Many of you feel this is my "Business" it is not I am a Hobbyist breeder I have a full time job (Manager) besides working with dragons; most of what I make selling dragons goes into the rescue work I do. I take in a lot of unwanted reptiles (not only dragons) many are ill and have been neglected I pay out of my own pocket to get the vet care they need done so I can adopt them out to new homes (My vet would NEVER EVER LIE for ANYONE) which is usually always local you may once in a while see one come up on Fauna the last one was a Chinese Water Dragon. If I did this just for money I would be an idiot as no offence I do not see any Hobbyist Breeders like most are on here getting Rich of reptiles after you think about what you put back into them to keep them healthy.

Also the whole Camera thing I saw a little while back where you guys thought I had this camera a long time; that was when I got my Canon Power Shot I think I had it maybe 2 months before I got my Canon Rebel I did not have much time to fully learn that camera and still have a lot of trouble with my current one.


Lastly I would like to clear one other thing up; my business is not associated with Ed Clark's he has no say in what I do and I have no say in what he dose. Yes I have sold him dragons but it may be a shock to many people here I have only sold FOUR Dragons to him and Traded two I try not to whole sale much unless I absolutely have to.


I would prefer not to post on here anymore (I am not avoiding anything) If you would like to ask me something feel free to PM me I have nothing to hide.


Sorry this was such a long post Have a Good Night
 
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