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Bad Guy Howling gale bearded dragons

In my opinion it was not edited by the seller. Cropping a photo and editing a photo are two different animals. Crop is cutting parts out of a photo that have nothing to do with the purpose of the photo. editing is changing things such as color saturation, sharpness, lightness/tint and so on. The camera the seller has (when used by someone that does not know how to use them) will automatically adjust the picture to its "perfect" setting. IE the camera will detect what defects it thinks are in the picture and adjust it accordingly.

And why buy a 800 dollar camera, well at least for me, i purchased a nice DSLR camera cause im a hobby photographer. cant speak to why gale has one but i can deffinately take photos with a DSLR that i could never even imagine trying to take with a point and shoot digital camera.

So it all depends on what answer you want tom. Is the photo adjusted? Yes
was it adjusted by gale? Not neccessarily due to the camera that she uses.
 
aleria said:
The original image file is in a java file..... that makes absolutely no sense. Either he still has the original jpg or gif image or he doesn't, there are no two ways about it.
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Nice catch.
Nicole-The point of sending the original out is for SOMEONE ELSE to verify they haven't been altered.
 
That's exactly why I made the offer of giving my email address so it could be sent to me, or someone else those here may consider reliable enough to verify the data. Having it verified by her "website guy" doesn't do much in the way of reliability.
 
Ok he emailed me the results to the picture he had it is not the one I hoped for though this is the only picture he has left of her in his files :( but I thought I would show you anyways. Sorry I can't get it all in one screen shot there are four it is taken directly from my email.
 
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Whatever exif viewer he is using there doesn't seem to even be listing the "source" of the image. None of that information there really seems all that relevant to what we were trying to determine.
It would still be best to get one of the original files and send it to someone ELSE, someone reliable, to be verified.
 
spyder79 said:
In my opinion it was not edited by the seller. Cropping a photo and editing a photo are two different animals. Crop is cutting parts out of a photo that have nothing to do with the purpose of the photo. editing is changing things such as color saturation, sharpness, lightness/tint and so on. The camera the seller has (when used by someone that does not know how to use them) will automatically adjust the picture to its "perfect" setting. IE the camera will detect what defects it thinks are in the picture and adjust it accordingly.

And why buy a 800 dollar camera, well at least for me, i purchased a nice DSLR camera cause im a hobby photographer. cant speak to why gale has one but i can deffinately take photos with a DSLR that i could never even imagine trying to take with a point and shoot digital camera.

So it all depends on what answer you want tom. Is the photo adjusted? Yes
was it adjusted by gale? Not neccessarily due to the camera that she uses.
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Play and twist how ever you want to break down my words. How about this.

If the animal looks how it does in Sheena's care ( duller ) why would Nicole even post this animal looking bright red and yellow knowing this isnt how the animal really looks??? No matter who altered it. Nicole, her web guy, her camera or god. (hope i narrowed it down enough for you)
 
shlages said:
So you happen to not have the pic in question?Convenient?Why not send the pic to somebody else to verify?Aleria already happily volunteered
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that photos data was already checked far earlier in the sale ad. and shown to not have photoshop editing in its info. now if you look at that photo and compare it to the other photo they are identical color wise which is why I personally think the other photo (the one with photoshop in its info) was saved to a photoshop file inadvertantly by the OP. Thats just my opinion. I honestly think that some time needs to be given for the animal to acclimate to its home and it will probably color right up.
 
dragonluver83 said:
Play and twist how ever you want to break down my words. How about this.

If the animal looks how it does in Sheena's care ( duller ) why would Nicole even post this animal looking bright red and yellow knowing this isnt how the animal really looks??? No matter who altered it. Nicole, her web guy, her camera or god. (hope i narrowed it down enough for you)
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Tom i have no reason to play or twist your words and honestly im not sure as to why lately you have been so very argumenative towards so many people but dude I dont care if you want to question what i said 8 million different ways. At the end of the day I personally feel that dragon was not falsely represented, it just has not been given time to acclimate to its new environment. Im dont posting in here cause im not in the mood to continue this back and forth crap with you.
 
spyder79 said:
that photos data was already checked far earlier in the sale ad. and shown to not have photoshop editing in its info. now if you look at that photo and compare it to the other photo they are identical color wise which is why I personally think the other photo (the one with photoshop in its info) was saved to a photoshop file inadvertantly by the OP. Thats just my opinion. I honestly think that some time needs to be given for the animal to acclimate to its home and it will probably color right up.
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I may have missed it, but where is the link to the ad and the post showing that the picture originally posted in the ad was NOT photoshopped as you're stating above?
 
If you take the picture & the animal DOES NOT LOOK THE SAME(color or whatever)in the pic as it does in your viv, THE PIC SHOULD NOT BE USED TO SELL THAT ANIMAL.Period.
Now SJS did you get a shot of the belly/ underside?Please post them so we can clear up that part @ least.
 
spyder79 said:
Tom i have no reason to play or twist your words and honestly im not sure as to why lately you have been so very argumenative towards so many people but dude I dont care if you want to question what i said 8 million different ways. At the end of the day I personally feel that dragon was not falsely represented, it just has not been given time to acclimate to its new environment. Im dont posting in here cause im not in the mood to continue this back and forth crap with you.
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I am sorry you didnt like our thread on genetic inferior dragons, because i had facts on what we were talking about an you were just kinda rambling with your " IMO ". But i dont see how that means i am arguing with so many others. If you have a problem please pm me.
 
From what I'm seeing there those are 2 different pictures both hosted on the sjsexotics freewebs page. Is that the ad?
And the top image that was stated as "not having photoshop data" actually was stripped of absolutely all exif data, so it's not even possible to tell whether it was run through photoshop or not. If the file was uploaded somewhere and then downloaded again and then uploaded to the freewebs site that would explain the complete lack of all exif data, but does not prove that it was not altered unfortunately.
 
dragonluver83 said:
I am sorry you didnt like our thread on genetic inferior dragons, because i had facts on what we were talking about an you were just kinda rambling with your " IMO ". But i dont see how that means i am arguing with so many others. If you have a problem please pm me.
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This is far off topic but honestly man you can breed whatever you want and you know what kind of hatchling deaths you have and weather you want to argue that point or not is of no importance to me. I do not need to waist my time trying to debate things with people that only want to debate so as to get their point across. You repost the same question in many different ways cause you know if you ask it enough times someone will give up and thats what im doing here i give up. I have nothing invested in this thread nor do you and im tapping out so you have fun. later
 
START YOUR OWN THREAD!

spyder79 said:
This is far off topic but honestly man you can breed whatever you want and you know what kind of hatchling deaths you have and weather you want to argue that point or not is of no importance to me. I do not need to waist my time trying to debate things with people that only want to debate so as to get their point across. You repost the same question in many different ways cause you know if you ask it enough times someone will give up and thats what im doing here i give up. I have nothing invested in this thread nor do you and im tapping out so you have fun. later
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this has been going on for pages already. enough
Back to the point-Nicole why & when did you delete the ad in question?
 
spyder79 said:
This is far off topic but honestly man you can breed whatever you want and you know what kind of hatchling deaths you have and weather you want to argue that point or not is of no importance to me. I do not need to waist my time trying to debate things with people that only want to debate so as to get their point across. You repost the same question in many different ways cause you know if you ask it enough times someone will give up and thats what im doing here i give up. I have nothing invested in this thread nor do you and im tapping out so you have fun. later
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Wow dude get off it please i pmed you already.
 
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