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Info In response to Natalie Beacom

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Ok i would like to start off with introducing myself. My name is Aaron. I am Natalie’s husband. No i am not the person in the pictures holding the Burm wrong. I have sat her and watched all the comments the past few days and am tired of it. Before all the comments come in i would like to say a few things. First of all i did not send that email stating i was going to take over this site. I’m not sure where it came from. Call me a liar if you’d like. 2nd. Natalie does nothing but love and care for any animal she takes in. She provides them the best home she can with what money we can put towards them. We do not make any money off of any animals we take in. If we take in an animal that we can’t house we immediately find it a proper home.

Yes we keep several of the tanks/enclosures in a closet in our main bedroom. The main reason for that is we have 2 kids. 2 and 3 they get into things. The only thing that is really wrong with anything in that room is the extension cords. Yes I admit that’s not the best way to go..But it works. And she does not use heat rocks. Only heat pads the 1 tank has the rocks on the lid because it’s an old lid that needs to be replaced. I put the rocks there because the stores locally don’t sale lids for 125 G tanks and shipping for a lid of the internet is more than I paid for that tank. The lid works just to keep anything from getting out I used the rocks. All the snakes are in perfect size enclosures. None of them are dirty. All have clean water and substrate. All have adequate lighting. There is nothing wrong with any of the setups. The big Burm is in a 6ft vision cage with a jewelers lock with proper heat and lighting. The turtles are in a 125gallon tank that is cleaned weekly. Our 200gallon fish tank has a Fluval FX 500 filter cleaning it. So its self efficient. So I really don’t know what all the complaints about the so called improper housing for the animals is all about.

I have never given her the full support she has wanted for the rescue. The reason the site she made is on Free Webs is because I didn’t want to pay for a site. As far as Natalie being 501 C she is not. She has talked with the department in charge of the permits and has the Application but has not submitted it because I did not want to pay the fee due to me not fully supporting the rescue. So call it what you want. It’s my fault she does not have the permit. Her saying she has it is her fault. As far as her copying the ethics page from the other rescue, I can’t comment on that other than the fact I know a friend of hers helped her with that. I know that’s an excuse but it’s the truth. Did her friend copy it? After looking at the two versions I do see it’s almost identical which I why I removed it immediately upon her being asked to do so.

Now comes my part in all this. After watching from the sideline and listing to her get upset about what was going on I got rather irritated. I sent the emails in reply to the removal of the ethics page. I said the sarcastic, childish, immature remarks following that email on the page. I let my feelings get the best of me because I was irritated with everyone running Natalie down.
So I apologize for what I said under her name. It was childish and wrong for me to say what I did which made the situation worse. So I do apologize for anything thing offensive I said to anyone.
I take the blame in that.

Now my reason for all this, I know you guys already have it built in your heads that Natalie is a horrible person. This is not true. She loves these animals. She actually got this love for reptiles from me. I’ve always been a lover of all animals especially reptiles. Reptiles never get the proper respect or treatment. People buy them at stores and realize they can’t take care of them. Natalie takes them in and finds them homes with people who can actually take care of them. I know I can’t say a lot to make what’s happened any better. But it’s my fault she don’t have the permits. That’s all there is to it. Just because she doesn’t have the permits don’t mean she’s not qualified to take care of the animals.

Now the other thing that really irks me is the fact that some people brought up us losing a house in a fire a few years back. Have any of you people ever had that happen to you directly? I mean honestly that’s not something to ever joke about and say anyone deserves it. I don’t know what kinda person wishes that on anyone. We almost lost our daughter in that fire. We lost several animals in that fire. It was the worst thing ive ever went though in my life. For someone to come on here and say we deserve that. That is flat out wrong. No matter what the circumstance.


To top it off others brought up our kids into this. Saying we aren’t fit parents. That IF they survive to adulthood they would be horrible people as well. What kind of people say that? IF they survive? What is wrong with that statement? I’m at a loss of words on that. Natalie is a great mother and a great wife. She does everything in her power to take care of our kids and these animals. That’s why she’s a stay at home mom. I work. I pay the bills and provide. I know there are some people on this site that won’t understand that. But there are others that do.
Also to run a person’s appearance down. That’s another thing to top it off. Words like porker are not called for. Just like what I said was not called for. It’s childish and immature and once again I apologize for what I said.

Last but not least. The emails and the phone calls with threats need to stop. This is the real world and what some of you are doing is illegal. We have contacted local law enforcement and informed them of the situation. We do not wish to get anyone in trouble for anything. But if it comes down to our safety it will be done. It’s just starting to get really ridiculous.
So I’m asking for anyone who is doing it to please stop. Its non sense.

If you wish to ban me from this site go ahead. I just felt the need to come on here and clear the air. I just want it all to stop. Natalie knows she has done wrong with the few lies and she is sorry. I did wrong by saying childish immature things. We both apologize.
 
Just to let you know pal, I wasn't kidding when I told your wife I filed a complaint with the IRS. Good intentions or not, what she's been doing, with your full knowledge, has been to commit fraud.

She got you into a real mess with her lying.
 
I will only address the 501c3 since that is all I had commented about.

If Natilie were upfront and told the truth, I am sure I would not be the only one to offer any help I could provide in getting her certified. It is NOT just a piece of paper that offeres HER a tax break at the end of the year. MANY people, including myself, make donations to non-profits and expect the paperwork needed from the charity for my own taxes. It's not just about the rescue. She can certainly call what she does a rescue but she really should state directly that she is NOT certified because many people will expect that end of the year paperwork. It would cover her own rump if it's stated plainly that she is not certified.

There is no shame in not being certified. If her intentions are truly for the animals, what shame could there be? She should have been a big enough person to realise this herself.

People don't take kindly to liars. Which is why she was blasted by some.
 
Just to let you know pal, I wasn't kidding when I told your wife I filed a complaint with the IRS. Good intentions or not, what she's been doing, with your full knowledge, has been to commit fraud.

She got you into a real mess with her lying.


you really think the IRS cares what you have to say? i mean seriously? IRS only cares if you take their money. She has not committed Fraud. No where does it say on her site that shes 501c . So what if she said she is. anyone who has ever given her an animal has never asked if shes 501c or has been told. ive been there for every person that comes into my home. Everyone shes ever dealt with face to face has been more than willing to let us take care of the animal after seeing how we take care of the animals. So a lie over the internet..yeah..so what...fraud..i think not
 
I will only address the 501c3 since that is all I had commented about.

If Natilie were upfront and told the truth, I am sure I would not be the only one to offer any help I could provide in getting her certified. It is NOT just a piece of paper that offeres HER a tax break at the end of the year. MANY people, including myself, make donations to non-profits and expect the paperwork needed from the charity for my own taxes. It's not just about the rescue. She can certainly call what she does a rescue but she really should state directly that she is NOT certified because many people will expect that end of the year paperwork. It would cover her own rump if it's stated plainly that she is not certified.

There is no shame in not being certified. If her intentions are truly for the animals, what shame could there be? She should have been a big enough person to realise this herself.

People don't take kindly to liars. Which is why she was blasted by some.

I agree 100% Which is another reason i didn't let her get certified. Because i dont want to have to deal with donations and worry about tax breaks and all the legal part of it. I have enough to deal with on my own. She realizes what she said was wrong. Its my fault shes not.
 
you really think the IRS cares what you have to say? i mean seriously? IRS only cares if you take their money. She has not committed Fraud. No where does it say on her site that shes 501c . So what if she said she is. anyone who has ever given her an animal has never asked if shes 501c or has been told. ive been there for every person that comes into my home. Everyone shes ever dealt with face to face has been more than willing to let us take care of the animal after seeing how we take care of the animals. So a lie over the internet..yeah..so what...fraud..i think not

This is not entirely true. While she may have not said anything while you were around, I have personally read her craigslist ads in which she states she is 501c3 certified. That, is fraud.
 
This is not entirely true. While she may have not said anything while you were around, I have personally read her craigslist ads in which she states she is 501c3 certified. That, is fraud.

ok well i cant vouch for that but she has never collected any money from anyone. Never sold any animal off that site. We have given alot of them away to other homes. I lose money monthly on these animals.
 
all im saying is there was alot of wrong said on both sides of this...i just want all the phone calls and emails to stop. there are several that have emailed or called with threats
 
The children. I don't care if it was YOU or YOUR WIFE.....ONE of you is a racist pig.......and the one that lives with the Racist Pig is too (you can't live with someone willing to post that crap in a public without effecting you children).....I dont really care WHICH of you had the balls to POST it~ your both endorsing it......
and you have custody of CHISREN?
I'm disgusted
 
The children. I don't care if it was YOU or YOUR WIFE.....ONE of you is a racist pig.......and the one that lives with the Racist Pig is too (you can't live with someone willing to post that crap in a public without effecting you children).....I dont really care WHICH of you had the balls to POST it~ your both endorsing it......
and you have custody of CHISREN?
I'm disgusted

But you have the issue. You antagonized most of the original thread. Your the main one that ran her down and everyone else jumped on your band wagon. I told everyone i said the stupid remarks. And my kids are not effected by a stupid choice of my words on a forum. They cant hear what i type. Natalie's not responsible for my words
 
you really think the IRS cares what you have to say? i mean seriously? IRS only cares if you take their money. She has not committed Fraud. No where does it say on her site that shes 501c . So what if she said she is. anyone who has ever given her an animal has never asked if shes 501c or has been told. ive been there for every person that comes into my home. Everyone shes ever dealt with face to face has been more than willing to let us take care of the animal after seeing how we take care of the animals. So a lie over the internet..yeah..so what...fraud..i think not

If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to race a go-kart around the inside of a donut.

I almost feel bad for you.
 
But you have the issue. You antagonized most of the original thread. Your the main one that ran her down and everyone else jumped on your band wagon. I told everyone i said the stupid remarks. And my kids are not effected by a stupid choice of my words on a forum. They cant hear what i type. Natalie's not responsible for my words



EDIT

You didnt antagonize ...that was directed towards Bill...
 
If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to race a go-kart around the inside of a donut.

I almost feel bad for you.


see thats what im talking about. theres no reason for comments like this. your just trying to start crap again. im not going to reply to you any longer
i feel what i said more than explains my actions. if you have nothing nice to say keep it to your self please
 
But you have the issue. You antagonized most of the original thread. Your the main one that ran her down and everyone else jumped on your band wagon. I told everyone i said the stupid remarks. And my kids are not effected by a stupid choice of my words on a forum. They cant hear what i type. Natalie's not responsible for my words

See what I mean about brains and gasoline folks?
 
EDIT

You didnt antagonize ...that was directed towards Bill...

Maybe Chuck (aka Bill :rolleyes: ) was antagonistic...but he's not the one the nastiest comments were directed to. And he only got really mean in response to those comments. Let's face it...whoever made those comments did so because someone was caught in a big ol' lie and couldn't figure a way out without actually admitting to the lie. And....I'd lay bets that it wasn't just YOU who made those nasty comments. Looking at the typing styles of those comments...looks to me like one of you started it and the other jumped right in and kept on swinging the bigot-stick alongside.

So yeah....I'll agree with you on one point...there's no call for personal e-mails and certainly not phone calls harrassing your family. But...based on your own words here...your apology doesn't really hold much weight at all. Still as full of holes as a whiffle ball.
 
But you have the issue. You antagonized most of the original thread. Your the main one that ran her down and everyone else jumped on your band wagon. I told everyone i said the stupid remarks. And my kids are not effected by a stupid choice of my words on a forum. They cant hear what i type. Natalie's not responsible for my words

EXCUSE ME?

PLEASE show ME where I antogonized the orignial thread......or lets make it easy.....ANY Racist Pig post your or your Racist Pig wife made.
PLEASE
 
Maybe Chuck (aka Bill :rolleyes: ) was antagonistic...but he's not the one the nastiest comments were directed to. And he only got really mean in response to those comments. Let's face it...whoever made those comments did so because someone was caught in a big ol' lie and couldn't figure a way out without actually admitting to the lie. And....I'd lay bets that it wasn't just YOU who made those nasty comments. Looking at the typing styles of those comments...looks to me like one of you started it and the other jumped right in and kept on swinging the bigot-stick alongside.

So yeah....I'll agree with you on one point...there's no call for personal e-mails and certainly not phone calls harrassing your family. But...based on your own words here...your apology doesn't really hold much weight at all. Still as full of holes as a whiffle ball.


its ok i dont expect to make friends with anyone from this site...especially bandwagon jumpers. i really dont care...i just want to calls and threats to stop.
 
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