Inquiry - Jeff Schofield?

[SnakesUnlimited]

Well Jeff

I have dealt with you personally and know your tactics. When I asked around about you with breeders I respect I got bad responses. Not the people who post on here or anywhere else. The people who don't need to post anywhere because their reputation has been earned.
You where selling those "yellow Rat" morphs for what 6 months and everybody who knows about what is out there thought the same about your 7 new yellow rat morphs. They where crosses at the very least if not hybrids. Your adds stated nothing about that even though the people who had them before you and others who are much more versed in Obsoleta thought them to be crosses. Yet you claim to have never lied. If you don't state upfront that a animal is a cross or whatever most would consider that misleading at least.
As for the hondurans I purchased from you the packaging and shipping where so bad it is silly to see you spout on about being a old time guy except that when this hobby was new back in the day that would have been accepted. To us newbies, as you put it, there is a right way and a wrong way to ship. The snakes themselves where thin and I thought that suspicious so I watched them pretty close for awhile. Gee guess what they had lung flukes. Thanks Jeff I guess thats another old timers trick. Keep the CB with the WC so they can get the WC parasites. For a CB to get lung flukes your cages must be nice. Or is that the deaf guys problem.

In the end I would have likely looked past any or even all of this from a person who was not rude the first time I mentioned their short comings in just the shipping but when I have to read a reply that tells me how stupid I must be and how I must be a newbie if I never saw a snake get out of its bag... nagh I hold that info in the back of my head. You know why?? Because every whannabee ends up posting how much of a big shot they are sometime. I am actually amazed it took you almost 6 months to piss off someone else.

Wow I feel better.

Later,
Jason Hood

 

[herp4fun]

yet another

Jeff is Jason hood 1 of your many GOOD references? I think not. Where are all your happy customers? Will they come to your defense? I too would like a glance @ your snakes cages. I was wondering about those yellow rat morphs as well. Now you have this new milk morph. Jeff take a step back and look at the big picture. Your right I'm sure there will always be someone out there that will still buy from you sight unseen. I think you should live up to this BIG reputation you say you have,and act like someone who is very well respected as you claim to be. So far only ppl you were shady with have come forth.For your sake and this godlike rep u claim to have I hope someone comes to your aid here in this thread.

 

[Brad Alexander]

I'm upset because you won’t sell me the snakes??? That couldn't be further from the truth. I got upset because it seemed like someone was trying to scam me.

Every way in which you communicated in the first two emails pointed to a scam. I said it then, I'll say now. After referring to you as a scam, you could have easily turned things to your favor by not taking such an arrogant, insulting, defensive posture in the third and continuing emails (the third being the clincher). Yes, defend yourself if you feel it to be THAT important. Of course, between two people, in private, I don't really see why it was SO important. Defending yourself with even an ounce of care would have made a HUGE difference in all of this. But alas, I really don't expect you to accept what I'm saying. I honestly believe that you are purposely misleading. You've even changed up how great these thayeri are in your latest ad with them. When telling me about them, one would think there were none better, now it's more along the lines of them being OK. Everything you do in the way you talk down to others, how great you are and how great what you sell is, points in one direction, scam.

I have no doubt that you sent that guy a box with a nasty gym sock and nothing else. Yes, I believe it, 100%. I have no doubt that you gave him crap for the good stuff he gave you. I have no doubt that you are pushing to sell some thayeri that are likely thin, sick and below average in overall quality. I have no doubt that you cut cost and send animals in less than proper shipping containers. I have no doubt that you cut costs and ship afternoon delivery instead of morning. I have no doubt that animals have escaped their containers and boxes during shipping (extremely unacceptable and easily avoidable). I have no doubt that there are more people out there that have been unhappy with you, but do not know about this board. I have no doubt that you pick and choose who to take care of and who not to take care of. If they are well known, you make things right, if they are not, it is likely an opportunity for you. I have no doubt that you will continue to try and change the focus from the real issue, to the poor me, this is how great I am and this is how horrible you are, routine.

I don't want your snakes now, nor was I upset because you didn't sell them to me. I never called you anything but foolish and a scam (exact words). To try and add other such name calling would be misleading, but what's new? I called you a scam for coming off the way you did in the first two emails, insisting you have great animals but cannot prove it, "trust me". I called you foolish because anyone trying to sell or buy thayeri, let alone any snake at all, sight unseen, is truly foolish. And yes, you are in retail because you trying to sell things to the general public.

 

[reptilebreeder]

Seems like all your posts are nothing more than posturing, self promoting garbage. You seem to put yourself in the same category as some of the well known, and pioneers of the industry, by thanking them and making sure everybody knows you have been breeding since 1990. Yet hardly anybody seems to know who you are. Nothing wrong with that, I've been into herps for 30 years and have bred herps in the 80's, yet I'm not known by a lot of people for that. The difference is I'm not trying to "force" my "fame" on everybody. Two biology degrees? One in molecular, and one in general? One AS, and one BS? One BS, and one MS? not that it matters, but you're the one who throws your degrees out, every time someone wonders who you are, or questions your animals. Been on KS forever, so what..so has bearded dragons, do a search on them.
Bottom line is it's silly to talk down people who wish to see photos, especially in this day and age that most of the scammers use the "no photos" excuses in their thieving endeavours. In the past when I've bought from Kathy Love, Barker's, Jim Kane (bought quite a few of his thayeri when he quit the business, and they were top of the line back in the early 90's), A certain Jeff (runs the site you have been at forever) when he got out of Alterna, and a lot of others who really are well known, all of them were more than happy to provide photos. Not one of them said...

do you know who I am? I'm a Biologist and have been breeding for 10 years, so you don't need to see no stinking photos, just take my word for it

. The irony is....they are respected enough that I probably would buy a snake, based on their description. Get over yourself, buy a camera and take some photos, or at least be less egotistical when people assume you may be a scammer based on your no photo excuses.

 

[Cat_72]

Cathy,when it comes to respect I have earned it. I dont and didnt demand it. But when DISRESPECTED I reacted promptly and with proper restraint. If you read my history it would give most reasonable cause for respect right?

I don't know your animals, I don't know your breeding, and THAT may or may not very well be deserving of respect. But repsect for your work and respect for you as a PERSON are 2 totally separate things, and from what you've shown here, you have EARNED no respect from me. You have forgotten, or choose not to remember what it is like to be a "Newbie". And from what I've seen, as a rule someone who feels the need to puff out their chest and keep reminding someone how respected they are isn't truly respected, they simply have a large ego.

 

[cka]

To defend myself at this point in my career seems a bit much but I will re-hash my past for you newbies and those who didn't hear it right the first time.

I've never heard it, so it interests me, being one of those newbies

It was one of these times I returned from being scammed on the road out of $10K to find that Joe Carroll Hughes stole my whole collection valued in the area of $15K.. Every time I hear SCAM artist I think of him.How about losing $25K in one summer??How about finding your snakes raised from babies on a table for sale in Daytona?? It happened.

File a police report? Should have...Care to post that incident here with Mr. Hughes retort? That's what it's here for

I currently have a smoking hot,completely crazy girlfriend in Bosnia which also complicates my life. Twice this year I have left to go to extended trips to visit her.

Women, what are ya gonna do :shrugs:

Each time having to move everything I own including snakes. I dont feel I have to explain my moves to everyone but here it all is. My problems posting pics is now legendary. That problem is compounded by losing 2 computers this year and one camera....and all the pics in them. I simply am unorganized and dont know what is still in there,where it is etc....but hey, that's me. Sorry.

ummm, Don't expect to sell much without them, or at least not in a public arena where most of the people buying animals are newbies, rookies etc. Might be better off just selling those who WILL buy from you sight unseen the old fashioned way, maybe with a mailing list (Good luck with that one)

I currently am paying a buddy to watch my snakes. This is not a good business decision on my part....

Especially when trying to sell them...

This is America,home of the free and land of the brave. If I produce,sell,trade or give away my snakes it will be my decision as to what,who and how its done. If you want a pic I dont have and cant get one,go to the next vendor who does. Dont harass me and call me a SCAM artist ,idiot,liar or whatever...

Can't argue this, Brad's comments were uncalled for, but you are gonna miss out on a lot of sales without pics...Take a day off, buy a disposable camera, take pics and have WalMart put them on a cd/rom...just good business...

Many times I have no pics of these,many times I will consider one pueblan or sinaloan as good as the next....not warranting pics.

Yeah, but "Variable" kingsnakes???

Tell me you wouldn't be jaded,sarcastic, or just plain defensive of guys trying their best to glean my best products for the least price....then complaining about it. Dont mind me,I will continue to take a pass on these customers. I just dont need them. I suggest that NONE of us need them.

Sounds like you need a career change. I've met a few of these Old Timers, from PA to NC to IL...Not one of them was "jaded,sarcastic, or just plain defensive"

To Shannon,Kathy,Bob,Ted,Rich,Don,Tony,Brian,Terry,Ric and others(you know who you are) thanks for being the best breeders by holding the line and sticking with this as a hobby or a job as times have changed. Sometimes I have no idea how or why you guys do it. I guess I am getting old because I simply dont have the patience to continue to teach others while being flamed for NOT selling. All of you that have read this far have to laugh, this guy is mad at me for NOT selling him snakes,lol. Seriously.

Well, patience IS a virtue, and i don't think he's mad at ya...He wanted pics, you didn't have them, it should have stopped there...It's a shame it didn't, jmho...

So there it is. If its a lemon to you, grab a tequila shot and suck on it.

Lol, now thats funny, i don't care who ya are

I am not here trying to impress anyone with my tactics.

Thats just too easy :*)

ask around some more,ask the ELDERLY statesmen of kingsnake.com what kind of man I am.

with Kingsucks reputation, not TOO many people here are gonna take you up on THAT one...

You will be pleasantly surprised how nice I can be when treated with the respect I have earned. Thanks,Jeff

Works both ways, and sometimes it takes a better person to rise above the fray. You speak of your reputation, but how are can be reputable in the hobby when NO one can see your animals and your attitude towards all the hobbyist's that are "beneath you" just plain sucks...If you want to get back into this hobby, with the respect you feel you've "earned", you sure are gettin' off on the wrong foot...JMHO folks, for what it's worth

 

[The BoidSmith]

Jeff,

Just remember that "experience" is something that should not be measured only in term of years. It's the "quality" of that experience, and what you do with it that really matters. For a good reading on the topic I suggest "The measure of experience" by the Barkers'. Look at the way you acted. An experienced person would have never posted an ad like you did. Experience should tell you no one can take better care of your snakes than yourself, unless of course that other person is more experienced than you are...

 

[Jeff Schofield]

OK now to respond to further accusations. Jason is one of the 2-3 guys mad at me because I shipped him hondos(who were brumating at 50 deg)in an uninsulated box when the temps from Boston to Chicago were over freezing.I cant refute that,or that one of the snakes forced a hole in the bag.I will take offense to the flukes though. I have pics of my caging in the gallery at kingsnake for all to see. I had these hondos for only a month or so before brumating them,and I got them from David Scarboro the OTHER guy who is mad at me. I think if you read the full thread on his issue you will also see me absolved.You will likely see who is telling the truth--no one would send a $35 overnite package with a empty sock,wished I had thought of it though.
Jason,as I questioned in the forum,did you really complain to Mike Falcon that your hondurans darkened up? Are you really that proud about complaining to the point of having someone send you another snake just to keep you quiet? Did you ever consider you may be taking $$ away from the people that have earned it? Mike is a good guy and doesnt produce enough to be giving thing like that away(or that is my impression)without feeling it.
Those yellows I have are F2 and F3.The founding animals were caught by Art Bass of Stricklys.They were bred and sold to Don Soderberg,who in turn sold them and the whole F2 clutch to me for good $$$.I did my homework on these and I believed the people involved.Their story hasnt changed,neither has mine.I know Dwight questioned ONE of the locales,but even Dwight has taken a low key approach to rats as EVERYONE is questioning EVERY line....We both know you cant fight city hall,but that doesnt mean that either I or anyone else involved are lying about anything.I suggest to all to do the homework as I have before calling me a liar,I REALLY DONT LIKE THAT!
John,I am not forcing anything.I am who I am,if I have some snakes to sell I will try and sell em. I defend my reputation,especially having gone through 7 years of college for 2 bs's(marine fish and wildlife).I would NEVER say"take my word for it",if you QUOTE someone,make sure to use their words not your interpretation of them!And if you read that DIATRIBE,I said that I would not buy variable kings without pics but there are some who would.Note-the one guy who did is pleasantly surprised!
Cathy,respect is something I give without question.You can only lose it by disrespecting me.I dont know you either,and I respect YOU. Why would you say that I havent EARNED your respect? I havent forgotten what its like to be a newbie,but the reason I will stick with hi end stuff is to do everything possible to avoid them.They will still email me offering $5 for a $200 snake and I still politely respond timely to each email in fashion.I am not here to entertain pic collectors so if you havent sold anything on a site like this you have no idea what I am talking about.If you have you are laughing.
Chris,do you want the report #,DA's phone number or how about Joe's(He moved across the country and changed his name because of this)? The snakes are not here to take pics of(as stated for the 3rd time!).The customers I like are the ones I can develop a relationship with.These are guys who like what I am dealing with and dont haggle for $5 off. These are guys who get a few this year,put in orders for next year,and go so far as to try and meet up out in the field to do some hunting. There are such people out there.For future reference to the newbies about haggling....if you respect MY values(it is after all my time that I am putting a price on)than I will go that extra mile and send you a free snake or include a multitude of freebies.If you take and take and take and have no interest in anything but the bottom line,there are plenty of other dealers out there.But as with most things in life--you get what you pay for. When haggling or complaining or lying the first thing that is lost is my respect.I'm simple like that.
Boidsmith,I know who I am advertising to,and its not EVERYONE.I cant help my predicament,chances are most people will be like this at one point or another if you keep animals long enough.Its a helpless feeling,but if I have the honesty to be forward with this info,what would I possibly hide?
I will end this with another's perfectly phrased retort:

Yeah, I know what you mean about the young bucks. Long on testosterone and short on gray matter...... LOL!

Take care.

Thanks.

Rich Zuchowski

Couldnt have said it better myself,Jeff

 

[The BoidSmith]

Boidsmith,I know who I am advertising to,and its not EVERYONE.I cant help my predicament,chances are most people will be like this at one point or another if you keep animals long enough.Its a helpless feeling,but if I have the honesty to be forward with this info,what would I possibly hide?

I was not referring to your first ad but to the second one that John brought out to light. Experience should have told you that you should have not posted the way you did. Don't let your fingers type faster than how you process your thoughts.

 

[SnakesUnlimited]

OK now to respond to further accusations. Jason is one of the 2-3 guys mad at me because I shipped him hondos(who were brumating at 50 deg)in an uninsulated box when the temps from Boston to Chicago were over freezing.I cant refute that,or that one of the snakes forced a hole in the bag.I will take offense to the flukes though. I have pics of my caging in the gallery at kingsnake for all to see. I had these hondos for only a month or so before brumating them,and I got them from David Scarboro the OTHER guy who is mad at me. I think if you read the full thread on his issue you will also see me absolved.You will likely see who is telling the truth--no one would send a $35 overnite package with a empty sock,wished I had thought of it though.
Jason,as I questioned in the forum,did you really complain to Mike Falcon that your hondurans darkened up? Are you really that proud about complaining to the point of having someone send you another snake just to keep you quiet? Did you ever consider you may be taking $$ away from the people that have earned it? Mike is a good guy and doesnt produce enough to be giving thing like that away(or that is my impression)without feeling it.


Well Jeff I thought I answered your question on the other forum which by the way was a good guy post on Mike Falcon that the snake in question was not what I thought it should be in the beginning and Mike understood that and agreed that the snake was not up to HIS par. That is, he is a good breeder and when a ugly duckling shows up he understands that some people would not be happy. I was not happy with the snake but I was very happy with Mike. Why because he is not a scumbag like you. HE of his own free will put in a extra double het ghost female this year without telling me and in fact he sat on a very nice ghost male for me until I could get up the money even though I told him repeatedly not to wait and thanked him when he did. So even though you try to change the focus of this thread to someone else and question my character all it did was give me a chance to repeat what a good guy Mike Falcon is. Thanks

Funny thing is you offered me a anery hondo about 6 months earlier but that is neither here nor there. Maybe you did just get it. If you know a snake is sick you don't sell it off to someone else with out at least stating all the info you know. If you want to question my character you should at least have something more than a good guy post I made about someone that you twist to your ends. As far as your rep goes I did not speak to one person who said anything nice about you in spite of talking to about a dozen people who do know you. Oh hey didn't you want to trade me adult spotted turtles for my hatchling South Florida Mole Kings?? I thought you as a Ma. resident where not allowed to own those? I could be wrong because I don't know turtle laws but it did seem fishy that you where willing to trade adult spotteds. Hmmm

With all you do wrong do you really want to start throwing crap around?? I mean I know you are in it hip deep but isn't that high enough??

Thanks For the BS
Jason

 

[Jeff Schofield]

Squeaky wheel getting your grease?

WOW. Jason, let me clear a few things up for you again. First,yes,I got that anery hondo 6 months previous.I told everyone(including you)that I had it about a month before brumating it(sept)and you got it in mar/april(6 mon!). A sick snake does not last 5 months in brumation without dying.Second,I notice you also had a problem with Mike's shipment too, but you gave him the benefit of the doubt to place another order with him.THOSE are the customers I take care of too,as stated previous.You would have known this if you had placed an order with me again this year.And just what did I do to you to deserve the title SCUMBAG?? Lastly,I was fronting those turtles for a buddy Brad in FL. I never saw the turtles or any of the monies,I just do things for good people like that.
You may fool some people into thinking you didnt bitch to Mike about a double het female being dark(!?!?!?!),but now its down in black and white.Disguise it all you want under a good guy post,it is still you getting something for nothing.You can look at it as just Mike being a super nice guy,or you can say the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I say more than likely its both.Jeff

 

[SnakesUnlimited]

Easy Stupid

You should be careful on misquoting people. Hey...didn't you say that earlier. I never said that Mike was the one who I had a problem with his shipping. In fact I said his shipping was excellent. It was someone else who had a hole in the bag. Second I mention you having the Anery 6 months earlier because at that time (6 months earlier) you wanted $600 for the lone female anery or a pair of my $300 South Florida Mole Kings but 6 months later you send me the female with a albino male for what $450-$500 shipped right before spring. Wow some would say that is a big drop in price.

Why would you more than half your price on a snake?? How come I didn't get any eggs from that breeder female?? Oh is it because she is way to small and sick? Why is the male in my freezer? You know what? I think I can get pics of the flukes coming out of the mouth of the male, even though they are frozen I bet they are visable. Bottom line is I screwed up by not following the advice of others or my own innervoice. As they say when the deal seems to good to be true it probably is. You are right my fault I should have never dealt with you. Hey maybe someone else will read this and understand why prices are so low on some snakes.

Later Jason

 

[SnakesUnlimited]

Another Thing

The reason Mike got the benefit of the doubt was because there was no problem. There was no doubt his animals arrived on time healthy and in perfect shape with heat packs. The only thing I said to him was the male ghost was very dark. He said he agreed and even though the genetics where what i needed he offered a straight trade for a ghost from the following year. No prompting needed. I think he was going to pay shipping both ways. Instead I said I would just get another male next year if he had some nice ones. The year goes by and we both do what we said.

The difference is that when I contacted you, you where condisending and degrading. You acted like you did in your post here. I don't think giving you more money to buy your respect is what I needed to do. Secondly I have not seen any babies available from you even though you claim to have this big collection. Lastly a dark baby and a sick snake are not the same add in your inability to ship in a decent manner and you tell me WHY WOULD I GIVE YOU A SECOND CHANCE??? The old eight ball says "Outcome not favorable"

Thanks For asking
Jason
P.s. Just for fun find how many other bad guy post I have been in. I will give you a hint there is only one.

 

[Jeff Schofield]

This is ridiculous now. I didnt quote anyone as you can see except Rich Z,lol. I never had any snake for sale previously for over $500 because I dont believe in paying that much for one. Of course that doesnt include these couple one-of-a-kinds I have now.You must have had me confused with someone else. Yes,that male did come from Mr Scarboro,and I am half expecting him to chime in with his empty sock on the grassy knoll theory.
I did notice that he lived just fine for me in brumation for 5-6 months. I did not hear a peep from you about health issues prior to this thread. All I have ever heard from you was my bad packing job....But the truth is the animals made it there alive the day they were expected correct? If you have ANY health issues regarding my snakes I would have liked to have heard of them sooner than 1.5 years later. Further,I suggest that there was never a vet call on him either and you are just guessing on the diagnosis,right? If I am wrong I will gladly pay for a vet bill if you can produce one.
I have been more than open and honest about everything in my life here so everyone can see how honest I am.I went off to Bosnia for a month in January and again for the summer....you would too. I produced only a few Monster milks of which I am in no rush to sell.
Lastly,you keep bringing up poor Mike. You are expecting us to believe he gave you a dbl het female for ?? Being a nice customer? Its possible,but not likely.A squeaky wheel? Maybe.If I can be so bold,you have had a problem with my shipment,with Mike's shipment, who else??? I suggest your MO is to complain about every transaction to get more than your fair share. Maybe I am wrong,but thats what it looks like to me. Further,you are now suggesting that Mike's customers that do complain are due compensation.....which I am sure he cant be happy about.Sometimes things arent perfect and life goes on. It is OK with me that you dont want to deal with me,but dont say that I didnt try to make good.You never gave me a chance,Jeff

 

[David Scarboro]

First Off

As noted in the previous thread about you, (the one where you scammed me big time!) you got an Anery hondo female from me in May of 04. That is the only hondo that you got from me. Here you are lying again! Also, you were not absolved in that thread. (at least nobody else thinks so except for "Dr. Keyser" and "pebbles") Ha Ha. Read it again Buddy. Well anyway, since you are back again, let me finish what I am working on, and I will get back here in a couple of hours to dust you off!

 

[David Scarboro]

Four Females

By the way... All 4 animals I sent were females. Not a male in the bunch! Another Lie!!!!!!!!

 

[Jeff Schofield]

OOPS,my bad on that one David

Its been well over a year,I had 2 hondos and got 1 from you(female)....wrong one.You are right,sorry,Jeff

 

[SnakesUnlimited]

Last Time

Jeff you are misquoting me by saying that I had any problem with Mike's shipment. Last time I say this. Shipping was perfect from Mike. Next I didn't bother to contact you about the snakes because I had no faith in you after the first time I spoke with you after receiving them. The aggravation was not worth it to me. What happened between Mike and myself has more depth to it. I have been buying from Mike for about 3-4 years. That includes about 10-12 hondurans all morphs so a double het is not that unusual in that regard.

You are trying to attack my character because yours is left wanting. I have sold somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,500-3,000 snakes and I have had only a few problems all of which I have remedied. That includes driving 2 hours to give a kid another $25 snow corn. Never mind pictures of my "$300 snakes" Out of those sales I have at least 30 repeat customers year after year. I have had a account here since Dec 2003 and now almost half of my post are about you. That says a lot. The only thing on the board about me in positive. It is not my character that needs any help.

All in all I am through with you and this post. How you deal with people is out there. I will go back to what i actually do on this forum. That is lurk and post good guy threads.

Good Bye Jeff

Thanks Jason

 

[Jeff Schofield]

"YOU WANT THE TRUTH,YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH",lol

Jason,this will also be my last post to you on the subject.We have similar successes and I am sure failures. We have each gone past what we think is the equilibrium in many deals. You have your trip for a snow corn, I have sent several second FREE packages to Mr Scarboro and Henry Rollins to name but 2. Let me quote you for the first time and correctly for everyone to see....from kingsnake.com's milk forum:

"and a double het female for free just because one of the animals that I bought from him last year got darker with age. Mike as always was a great guy with this deal and every other deal I have ever done with him. "

Maybe if I dealt with hondurans more regularly we would have gotten off on a different foot. Maybe your "faith and aggrivation"would have been different if I had more snakes you were interested in.Maybe you would have given me the chance to make good on that bad packaging.Maybe you would not have piled on and called me 1)scumbag,2)stupid for no apparant reason.Now as far as I or anyone concerned knows you recieved everything you were owed from me right?Maybe I was out of freebees this day I was shipping,maybe I was in a rush,maybe there was something more important in my life than making a perfect package.Point is,it got there and the snakes were OK.I apologized for ugly packaging(3 times now) and a year and a half later I get slammed here.Thats fair!?!?!
Take another look at that quote and tell me where you made the mistake(LIE?),here or there.You also never answered the question,besides Mike and I who have you been wronged by in the past? Even if its just the two of us I suggest I am in good company,lol.
Lastly,99% of my posts here have been with 3 guys:you,Brad and David.I dont go on here and complain about someone not sending me a pic,bad packaging,getting the bad end of a trade, and only sometimes when getting TOTALLY ripped off. I write it off.I have found that if you have nice snakes they will always sell themselves.Pictures are 90% of it,but I again cite Steve Wheat of Alabama who is now one HAPPY owner of a adult female Thayeri sight unseen.It is no coincidence he dealt with me.You cant complain about results.
Again,sorry we couldnt work things out.Jeff

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Two things Jeff

I never had any snake for sale previously for over $500 because I dont believe in paying that much for one.

Didn't you state earlier in this thread that you ony dealt with "high end" colubrids in order to weed out the newbies? Kind of contradictory there Jeff. Your position on things seems to rotate depending on which post you are answering. Both statements can't be true.

I did notice that he lived just fine for me in brumation for 5-6 months.

This is the real beauty! I am amazed that I am the first one to comment. Exactly what did you learn studying at the feet of that Colubrud genius you tout as your mentor. Small wonder the animal died. What kind of ignoramus would keep a colubrid from a tropical locale in brumation for 6 months? For that matter, no one in his right mind would keep any colubrid down for that long.

That moronic statement alone is solid evidence that you do not have near the knowledge and expertise you are arrogantly claiming.

I have to admit Jeff, in several years on this site I have rarely seen anyone stick his foot down his throat quite this far in only a handful of pages


Bravo.....we have a new President of the "Shot Himself in the Foot Club".