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Inquiry- Mike Rogers aka AuthenticCobras

Just a thought, but Mike, Im pretty sure you started the "bad posting" when you went to Venomous reptiles.org

Also I still have all the emails, I dont think its necessary to bring up? That you did not refuse to sell to me, in fact when I didnt want to buy anymore, you still TRIED to sell to me. It has nothing to do with me being mad that you wouldnt sell to me.

It is how it is though, some people never change.

This is the last time Im taking step 4....

i probably shouldnt even have posted this one...
 
I'm not sure if this guy is pulling a scam or not, but we may as well call him Jesse Underhill. Due to the fact that he and Jesse both have some of the most atrocious spelling and grammer skills I think I have ever seen.
 
How about we cut to the chase and someone starts comparing the relevant IP addresses? Ritchie, can you accomplish this, or maybe someone else could? I would, but I'm afraid I wouldn't know where to begin.

This may not be the same guy at all, but the writing styles of at least three of these "different" posters seem to be very similar to me, and they seem to have registered all about the same time. Too suspicious just to accept at face value, that's for certain!
 
regardless of who mike or kevin is, mr. foley did not make an unreasonable request, i personally would not send money to someone with no reputation or references. having read the simple posts, atleast the relevant ones, it would appear that mike or kevin are doing some shady dealings. coupled with a threat aired on an open forum it doesnt make a good case for mike or kevin (should i just condense them to mikvin? lol). now, i have done business with mr. foley in the past, all corespondence was done online. everything was also extremely professional, no threats, no harrassing phone calls. i would do business with mr. foley again anytime. never fails to amaze me that people get blasted for trying to protect themselves and others!

Jay
 
Ill probably get nailed for this

Ill probably get nailed for this, but Oh well......

Well Mr. John Scmitt and Mr. Daniel Wedeking....

Im just bashing a seller eh???

Kevin Peters and Mike Rogers are just innocent people trying to make a sale eh???


Well....If I hadnt said anything this wouldnt happen now would it???

Yes, Kevin would be screwed, but Mike would run the same game until he screwed more people over.

I have nothing more to say.
 
Chris

You are missing the point entirely. At the time you originally posted the facts were

1. Someone named Mike Rogers had some animals you were interested in.

2. You requested references before payment.

3. He could not supply them to your satisfaction.

4. You then, in essence, stated to him that since he couldn't supply the aforementioned references, "I still have no reason to believe that you will actually ship," and "Maybe someone else would be quick to send the money, but I dont make much at all" he was probably not to be trusted. Both statements were veiled aspersions as to his character just because he couldn't supply refrences.

5. You then tried to coerce him into shipping first by claiming this was an industry standard with new vendors to the trade. That claim is untrue by anyones standards.

6.) When he countered by saying he would accept approximately half up front and half on delivery you responded by calling him "unprofessional", further slamming his ethics. and passing on the deal. (which is your perogative on any deal.)

Whether or not this person eventually turns out to be Kevin Peters, Fang, the Son of Satan, or Jesse Underhill has no bearing on this situation. A the time you posted, all you had were the facts listed above. You had no reason to think he was anything but a new guty in the business. The post you made was way out of line based on the facts you had at th time you made it.

Yor response is akin to punching a stranger on the street in the nose and saying later that it was justified because you found out afterwards the guy was a criminal.

If this guy turns out to be the worst piece of scum in the business (and to date, no one has offerred any actual proof of that) it does not alter the fact that you didn't know it when you posted.
 
Kevin Allen Peters aka Mikerogers Scammer

Do not deal with this guy whats so ever. He was supposed to sell me a group of cobras,
4.4 monacles
1.1 blackneck spitters
1 red spitter
1.2 egyptians
All this for 500.00.
At first he told me his name was mike rogers and that he lived in Oregon. He told me that he was selling the animals so cheap because he was in a rush to move to California. He said he was going to fly to Florida with the animals because he had family here aswell as a florida venomous permit. He told me he would be in Florida on the 6th of june. He called me that night saying he was in Miami and that he would see me the next day. Then he preceded to tell me that his name was kevin peters and that he was living in California. He said that he worked for the California Acadamy of sciences and marine world. That early next morning i contacted Jeremy Coates and told him who I planned to meet. jeremy immediatly explained to me that the guy is a scammer and to check the fauna classifieds. I immediatly called kevin and told him that I dont want him to come over and that I didnt trust him he got upset. This guy is a wingnut and needs to be avoided. If you have any more questions I would be happy to answer:(
Jeremy (East coast reptile Breeders)
 
My observation over the last year

Lets take this back to around 8 months ago. Kevin Peters called me out of the blue, and asked me if I would like to purchase a Black Mamba from him. It started out being 9', but by the time that everything was ready to go it had shrunk to only 5'. He wanted only $250 for the snake, and he wanted me to send him 1/2 up front with shipping. I told him that was not the way that we did business here at Exotic Gems, and that if he wanted to ship first then we can do business. He told me that the snake was shipped, and I stayed by the phone waiting for Delta to call. Well they never did. I contacted him, and guess what he had problems shipping. We tried to get this snake shipped out for the next week to no avail. Well I dropped that deal, and then he offered me Mojave Rattlesnakes. Well he said that he could produce the 50 that I needed, and again he wanted money. I refused again, and he said that the snakes were shipped, again. Guess what? No call from Delta again. I did not contact this person again, and out of the blue he called trying to sell me 12 Russian Cobras (Naja oxiana). Here's where the story gets really interesting. He told me that they were promised to me, and that he would ship them with no money up front. Only 15 minutes after getting off of the phone with him one of my customers called me up as a reference for Kevin Peters about the Russians???? What the Hell??? He promised them to me, but then gave my name and number out as a reference about the snakes that are already promised to me. Well I told them the truth about him. Just the basics like he has never shipped or produced when he said. You don't use someone as a reference when you don't even do then right. That would be common sence to me. Well like 5 people called me about him for the same reason, and I told them all what I knew from experience. Anyway, I did not hear anything from him until about 1 week ago. He called me up offering me true Australian Death Adders, Common Brown Snakes, Inland Tiapans, Coastal Tiapans, and other various snakes. I told him that I did not want any part of those snakes because that list was not legal. Well he called a friend of mine (Jeremy Bednarsh), and offered him the snakes (see previous post by monacleman). Here is where his left off. He turned the deal over to me. Well I told him that I would meet him in person to get the animals, and then I would pay him in cash. He said that he would meet me at 8:00 pm, and we could check out the animals. Well 11:00 came, and still no Kevin. I called him, and he said that he was driving down Alligator Alley, and decided to stop at a little town on the way. Well anyone that has ever been down Alligator alley knows that there is nothing but fence, 4-lanes, and well, Alligators. He put me off until the next day (Sunday). I waited around for him all day Saturday for him to not show up, so I had to make up the plans on Sunday. I told him Saturday night to meet me at noon on Sunday, and he said OK. I called him at 10:30 to find out where he was, and when he was going to be here to only get his answering machine. He then calls me at 12:45, and asked me where I was because he was coming to me. I told him that he would have to wait in Ft. Myers until I could get back from Miami, and he got quite irate about that. I guess that he did not want to wait on anyone, but the way that I saw it was that I wasted a whole day for him. He could wait a little while. Well he went back to Miami, and waited for my call. When I got home he was supposed to be only 10 minutes away, but was now 3 hours again. Needless to say he never showed up again, and never heard from him. I know that Kevin Peters does exist somewhere out there, but I have to wonder if any of his animals do. I am pretty convinced that he is not even in Florida, and that takes a pretty messed up person to lie to that extent just to screw up someones weekend. He says that he is going to be at Hamburg, PA show this weekend coming up, and I know that there are alot of people that would like to meet him. I would NEVER send this person money, and I strongly suggest anyone that is thinking about it to do the same. I am sorry for taking so long, but now you know how ****** up in the head this person is.
 
John, its definitely not like that. When a buyer is uncomfortable, and a seller repeatedly calls, that is unprofessional.

When a seller then calls saying they wont sell and they will proceed to post bad things, thats unprofessional.

When after they post bad things, they call back and still try to make a sale. THATS UNPROFESSIONAL.

The so called "business standard" thing was exaggerating. However, Thats how I started, alot with quite a few people I know. A good example would be Ben Sparks.

Not to mention I had references, if anyone should feel comfortable it should be him. However, he had a right to opt out of that just as well as I did to opt out of the money. It was an offer. I did not call him repeatedly, I did not harrass him about it as he did to me.

You are correct, I could not justify him as a criminal, however, he was slightly rude, and unprofessional is definitely proper in my eyes.

You dont turn down a sale to a buyer, tell everyone online that they are bad (before the buyer posts anything), and then try to sell to the buyer again (when the buyer still hasnt said anything).

Also, if I hadnt brought out all the small flaws, hed never be linked to kevin.
 
Re: I AM NOT KEVIN PETERS

cobraman00000 said:
I was just tyring to sell my reptiles and this kid started some drama he is 17 years old and it is a FELONY TO SELL TO A UNDER AGE PERSON so I will not sell to him and he got pissed and started talking #### and I sent USKEVIN6 a instant message and talked to him a little bit......He seems to be not wanting to deal with anyone anymore for some reason or another.......anyway i am not scamming anyone...... i am just trying to get rid of my herps thats all...... but not on the SHHS website anymore to many little kids to much drama......i will get a kingsnake account and post with some pics later today OH AND CHRIS BE CAREFULL I MAY HAVE SLIPED SOMEONE YOUR PHONE NUMBER I SHOULDNT OFF...........

So let me get this straight. You Cobra man with the Name Mike Rogers of Authentic Cobras. Sent an Aol instant Message to Kevin Peters?

That should not be too hard considering you must be sitting on his lap.

Cobraman's IP is 12.232.112.107
Kevin Peter's IP is 12.232.112.107
The IP is for AT&T broadband. So you have to be sitting in each others lap
 
Thanks Ritchie

He actually admitted it in another post. However, this is helpful to have on this one as well, not to mention solid proof.
 
Kevin----

You are back up front for all to see what a stinking, slimy, steaming, sloshy, pile of lizard dung you are !!!!!!

Oh, BTW, check out my post about you. Interesting news for you.
 
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