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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

    And for the record, I will be shutting down the Google Adsense ads on January 1, 2025.
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Inquiry: MKR: Morph King Reptiles

Josh, your wrong about me in the fact that you say i buy tons of snakes from other breeders like you to resell them. I produce 90% of what I sell .I will do an occasional trade with someone that i know well. like I said I will buy from Ian now and then when he has something new or interesting.

You asked why am I worried about what MKR is doing? well to start with MKR ruined the mojave and lesser platty market. along with some other morphs. and his goals are to put the small breeders out of business, thats no secret. Joe capone is mentally unstable and is a certifiable nut case, I think that you seen that already.

josh, when someone tells me that they are going to rip me apart, put me out of business I will respond.

Do you really think that joe capone conducted himself in a professionl manner, like the industry leader that he proclaims to be?
 
Rookies opinion
As a b/p consumer, and hopefully future breeder, I find this thread quite interesting. I called MKR to purchase a morph to get started with. Joe ask what I was trying to do, and when I told him the details (breeding project in my classroom) Joe and Wes said they would donate an adult pastel to get me started. They also sent 30 T-shirts with their logo for my herpetology club members. These guys were caring concerned businessmen that not only wanted to give something back to the community, but are looking to insure their future success. I take my hat off to them and say thanks!!

I also am a property owner and recently had someone in our area sell their land well below what was considered the going rate per acre. This upset me, I felt that that may affect the price my property may bring in the future.

I guess what someone will pay for my property is truly what it is worth, and if the value is inflated I either take it or I don't. I think it will be the same here, when MKR runs out of animals the price may go up, you can either hold your animals and hope, or be more competitive, I have a feeling MKR is not going away!

Pinner
 
Pinner, well said.


Ed, you may not buy and resell as many animals as we do, but we obviously are going to have a response when someone says all we do is imported crap. Yes, Joe could have worded things better, but I know from a first hand experience that he is not trying to put the small breeders out of business. If anything at all he is helping us get bigger.

Joe is not the first person to put a ball python for a lower price than everyone else. Ben Siegal did the same price drop ($1000) with Mojave's the week before Joe did. There is nothing wrong with that. It is just like you selling Carmel albinos for $4500 when everyone else is selling them for $7500.

Why aren't we hearing anything about the butter market. They were $35,000 in January and now come may they were $7500. But there was no word about that.


Jen @ J&J Reptiles.
 
Josh, how can you say that joe would do nothing to hurt the small breeders. he stated it over and over that he will put all ball python breeders out of business.

HE ALSO STATED THAT HE WAS NEXT GOING TO PUT ALL THE GECKO BREEDERS OUT OF BUSINESS.

All you have to do is go back and read his psycho thread, its very clear what his intentions are.
 
Joe may have said that. I myself haven't read every single post. I am sure my husband Josh has. I am the one who posted the last thread. All I am saying is that my experience with Joe, Wes and Steve has been nothing but positive. And like I said before. They have done nothing but help us grow bigger as a business and say that would like to see us succeed. I believe if things like that were said, (I will have to go back and read the threads) it was all because people are attacking him for no reason. It is just like the other thread he has posted just warning people about someone who is a major scammer and all everyone did was put him down and say he deserved it.

I don't get it. I thought fauna was somewhere someone can go to get help, inquire about someone, say someone was good to do business with and warn when someone isn't. But now you cant even do that without being attacked your self when you have done nothing wrong except get scammed from someone.



Jen @ J&J Reptiles.
 
Ed,

To say that MKR's animals are genetically inferior is ridiculous. There is absolutely no basis for such a comment. That kind of statement is said only to slander someones reputation. :angry:

Why is NO ONE talking about the Pinstripes? :shrug01: Mojave's, Pastels, Spider's are all that people talk about. What about who lowered the Pinstripes?

Also Simple recessives? They are a strong investment and with good reason. They are hard to produce in comparison.

$4500.00 for a Caramel is a low price and for anyone jumping all over MKR for lowering the prices of Mojave's, how can you sell Caramel Albinos for such a low price? This does not make sense.

Who lowered the Pinstripes? :confused:

This is not a Pee Pee question just in case reading is required between the lines. :rolleyes:

lines YOU lines KNOW lines WHO lines YOU lines ARE lines.

note: the above sentence is silly but it is creative! :rofl:
 
Royal Variations Ltd said:
Ed,

To say that MKR's animals are genetically inferior is ridiculous. There is absolutely no basis for such a comment. That kind of statement is said only to slander someones reputation. :angry:

Why is NO ONE talking about the Pinstripes? :shrug01: Mojave's, Pastels, Spider's are all that people talk about. What about who lowered the Pinstripes?

Also Simple recessives? They are a strong investment and with good reason. They are hard to produce in comparison.

$4500.00 for a Caramel is a low price and for anyone jumping all over MKR for lowering the prices of Mojave's, how can you sell Caramel Albinos for such a low price? This does not make sense.

Who lowered the Pinstripes? :confused:

This is not a Pee Pee question just in case reading is required between the lines. :rolleyes:

lines YOU lines KNOW lines WHO lines YOU lines ARE lines.

note: the above sentence is silly but it is creative! :rofl:
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You tell us Kelly, Who lowered the price of the pins?
 
Kyle, I never said that MKR produced balls were genetically inferior, if you reread, what I said was mine were not genetically inferior. BIG DIFFERENCE.

I based my caramel prices on what others were selling theirs for. the day I posted mine there were others selling for 3500.00 to 4500.00 each. so I priced my males at $6500.00 and the females at $4500.00 and I believe that to be a fair price. I really dont see the need to stick it to someone, these prices are high enought.

Kyle, if you really believe that the female caramel is to cheap.BUY HER.
 
To the person breeding ball pythons for their Science Class....what do you hope to teach the students by breeding? I only ask because when I was in Jr. High we didn't breed reptiles or really even study them. The only time I ever saw a snake in school was in High School and I was the one who brought it up to the teacher to offer to bring in one of mine (BP) and let the class experience a snake and learn about care, feeding and husbandry. The kids loved it! You can be sure that everyone was in class the day of feeding!
It is amazing how more "high tech" schools have become in the last 15 years! I graduated in 95' and we had trouble getting new textbooks! I guess you can say im a little jealous about what is being taught now:) It would have been nice to have been able to go though a repoduction cycle from breeding to hatching. Are you going to offer any babies that hatch from the Pastel or Mojave to the students?
Anyways congrats on a beautiful class project and good luck. Makes me wish I was back in school!
 
Ed,

I appreciate the offer, I knew you would offer her to me. I already have plenty of Caramels and Caramel Hets. What line is yours? Did you produce her? If so why not offer her for the market price? Or better yet why don't you keep her for your own breeding?

Again, thank you for the offer. Would you purchase animals from me?
 
Ed,

What I don't get is you are complaining about MKR selling Mojave's for $800 when the market was at $1200. But you are selling Carmel albinos for $4500 when the market is $7500. And you do get why people are asking about that. And like you said if she is so cheap then buy her. How about we flip it. If MKR is so cheap on the Mojave's why don't you buy them?


Jen @ J&J Reptiles.
 
Kyle, My baby caramels are bell line. most of my steady people could not pay the retail prices of the big breeders. I think that we all know that they can be bought from all the big boys at a lower price when they need some cash, so why not price them right to begin with.

Just because we dont agree on everything does not mean that we have to hate one another, of course I would buy from you.

I have 4 pair of adult caramel albino hets. and do not want to keep any more. im at my limits on what i can keep. I have no desire to be a big breeder. just a hobby that kinda grew out of hand. :)
 
JnJReptile... Not sure what your saying about Ed "being someone who sells Ian's animals" .. Take a step back , know what your talking about before you speak... you seem like you just repeat hear-say from others.. and have not a clue how things work..

Anyone can buy an "unopened" crate of Ch balls , and sell the "abberants" that I have seen you post....

Ive looked at Eds ads , and i see nice animals. If you think hes the only person or the first person selling a Caramel at $4500 think again...Josh/Jen dont use Kingsnake Classifieds as your basis , MANY things happen behind the scenes.

MKR wasnt the sole reason for price dropping , and anyone who saw this market7-8 years ago knows that.

Derek
 
Jen, you ask why I dont buy MKR mojaves, because I have a rack full of them. I was selling them for $1750.00 this spring until MKR came out with their blow out price of $800.00 at that time I decieded to just sit on them until the dust settled. I have been posting them up recently at 995.00 and they have been selling. so I guess thats what the current market price is.

The market price for caramel albinos is not $7500.00, Iwill make you the same offer as I did kyle. If the price of caramels is $7500.00 I will sell you a female for $4500.00 and you can make $3000.00 profit on the resale. Now put your money where your mouth is.
 
Ed,

What is the difference between what you are doing with the Carmel albinos and what MKR is doing with the Mojave's?

The only difference I see is you are doing a big drop (asking $4500 for a $7500 snake) on something that isn't so easy to come by being a recessive and all, not a co-dom.


Jen @ J&J Reptiles.
 
Josh/Jen you are pretty sure on the market price and seem to know what it is , so take Ed's offer... you could buy a zillion "abberants" with the profits...
 
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