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Jamal Griffin, [email protected] sent me stolen pics.

Here's his personal response to me...

Jamal sent me an email. I would never imagine him replying on here. There's really nothing he could say. This is the first time I've ever called someone out and pointed the finger at them but it's just because he obviously lied. There's no 2 ways about it. And it pisses me off. I talked to the kid for like 2 months and believed he was legit and all the things said about him on the previous thread was just more of the average garbage. This however is a clear cut case. He's shady and has no excuse. This is also really the first time I've ever been a target for getting ripped off. I don't understand why people have to try this bulls*it but if posting proof on here of him doing it, stops him, that's what I wanna do. Nobody should have to worry about being scammed out of their money or animals that they truly care about. There are so many dishonest people though, there's no way to not worry. At least this one is pretty well "painted", so to speak. Hopefully no one falls for his stupidity.


just to inform you a friend of mines sent me what you posted on fauna and for one i was going to buy your whole clutch off you but now i am not and another thing i do have 4 hoggs for sale a 1.3 group and one more thing next time you post something make sure ur not all over the boi



thanks jamal griffin


In case it's asked for, this was my quickly thought up response:

I wouldn't sell them to you anyway. You have no idea what you're doing. You sent me stolen pics. I'm gonna buy something from you after you blatanly lied? Doubt it. It's very easy to see you were trying to rip me off. I've never attempted to or will ever rip anyone off. Big difference. You're a dirtbag, kid. Get a new hobby. Now you're just pissed because you're caught red handed. There is absolutely nothing you can say to redeem yourself. And you've seen it yourself, no one told you about it. You just have nothing to say so you aren't gonna respond in public.
 
I'm about to pay this child a visit out of simple principle......

You must not be too bright Jamal, keep it up...... The second someone actually falls for one of your scams I'll be there in seconds to collect. A mere ten minutes away, test me.
 
C'mon now Jamal! You can do better than that. Why don't you publicly explain yourself?
 
Round 2

Jamal's new email to me:

no i am not mad because i never riped anyone off witch onhe of u somes of bitches can say i riped you off and i would reply but all you fags do on there is talk about people one day some ones going to do something to you gies you gies dont understand how you are messing up people buiness u danm fags


My reply:

I understand you being pissed off. It sucks when people talk **** about you. I've been there and totally understand what you're saying. I totally agree that the majority of what's said about people on there is all hearsay, fabrication and speculation. That's why I gave you the full benefit of the doubt at first. But you have no excuse at all for sending someone else's pics as your own. YOU LIED. And attempted to cheat and deceive. You wanted me to send you money for animals you don't own. Make sense?


I don't wanna be the one keeping this going. I think it's obvious what the whole deal is. If he responds again, I'm going to keep it private but just wanted to share the information. And there is definitely enough information for anyone to make an educated decision about his motives and practices. Bottom line is that he's untrustworthy and that's just a bad character trait to have.
 
As I was sending the last post, Jamal IM'd me. This is in the exact same time frame so it's still relevant. This will be the last time I post what he says which is probably the last time for him too anyway. Draw your own conclusion.


KVBUNCH08 [7:27 PM]: rayan to tell you the truth i do have the 4 hoggs i just dont have pics of them but i was going to when i get a new digtial camera everything that i tri to sell i have
KVBUNCH08 [7:28 PM]: i have never scamed anyone
KVBUNCH08 [7:28 PM]: out of money or animals
ToxicPhillie [7:30 PM]: then you never should have tried to pass them off as your own
ToxicPhillie [7:30 PM]: that's just stupid
ToxicPhillie [7:30 PM]: you tried to sell someone else's animals as your own
ToxicPhillie [7:31 PM]: if I actually bought them and you would have really shipped them which I doubt you would have, you think I'd be satisfied opening the box and seeing 4 totally different snakes?
KVBUNCH08 [7:31 PM]: and to let you know my sister does get on my nmae
ToxicPhillie [7:32 PM]: you answered questions and completely acted like those were the snakes you were selling
ToxicPhillie [7:32 PM]: whatever man
KVBUNCH08 [7:32 PM]: i swear mine are better then those
ToxicPhillie [7:32 PM]: well, your word means ****
ToxicPhillie [7:32 PM]: you lied
ToxicPhillie [7:32 PM]: there's really no use in explaining, you blew it
KVBUNCH08 [7:32 PM]: ok where done
ToxicPhillie [7:32 PM]: I won't do business with you and most other people won't either
KVBUNCH08 [7:33 PM]: bye have a nice mothers day
ToxicPhillie [7:33 PM]: ok
 
Jamal, say something you scheming scammer. I know you are here right now!
 

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Jim He's going to lurk .....There is nothing he can say that would even dig him out :rofl: Hes on his way to that dead end road of being a TOP 10 Dont do Business with. AHHHHHHH the agony of it all :rofl:
 
RyanT said:
Jamal's new email to me:

no i am not mad because i never riped anyone off witch onhe of u somes of bitches can say i riped you off and i would reply but all you fags do on there is talk about people one day some ones going to do something to you gies you gies dont understand how you are messing up people buiness u danm fags

Yes, I love his wit and modern style of writing.
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Jim He's going to lurk .....There is nothing he can say that would even dig him out :rofl: Hes on his way to that dead end road of being a TOP 10 Dont do Business with. AHHHHHHH the agony of it all :rofl:
You're probably right. I just *cough* hoped he could come and clear this *cough* misunderstanding up. LOL.


Dennis Hultman said:
Yes, I love his wit and modern style of writing.
Yes, a Rhodes Scholar he is. :rolleyes:
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Would hate if he had to write a gentics guarantee ........This gies 100% hte fro olbino :hehe:
would hate to see if he had to write a GENETICS guarantee This gies 100% hte fro olbino :hehe: geez no he has me doing it :rofl:
 
Imho

In all honesty, I do believe that someone like this who admits to stealing pictures and lying should not be allowed to post anymore ads on this forum.
 
no i am not mad because i never riped anyone off witch onhe of u somes of bitches can say i riped you off and i would reply but all you fags do on there is talk about people one day some ones going to do something to you gies you gies dont understand how you are messing up people buiness u danm fags
Yes Jamal, you indeed ripped someone off. "Stealing from someone" and "ripping someone off" are synonymous.

You are a thief, that is undeniable. If this was the first time you've been caught stealing, I might chalk it up to simple naivety. However, this isn't the first time, and you've been previously made aware of the illegality of your actions.

You talk about "messing up someone's business"... good. You've demonstrated your "business" to be about nothing more than thievery. Not only did you steal from the rightful owners of those pictures, you also attempted to steal from your potential customers by intentionally misrepresenting the animals.

So long as you keep stealing from others, there's going to be honest people who will do what they can to disrupt your "business."
 
Dennis Hultman said:
In all honesty, I do believe that someone like this who admits to stealing pictures and lying should not be allowed to post anymore ads on this forum.
I just checcked the new classifieds section to see if he had any ads posted, and there were none.

As I'm not in the regular habit of checking the classifieds, anytime anyone notices an ad that's not kosher, such as pics tht can be verified as stolen, or some other form of fraud, please bring it to my or another moderator's attention.
 
Ken Harbart said:
I just checcked the new classifieds section to see if he had any ads posted, and there were none.

As I'm not in the regular habit of checking the classifieds, anytime anyone notices an ad that's not kosher, such as pics tht can be verified as stolen, or some other form of fraud, please bring it to my or another moderator's attention.


No problem Ken, I think everyone usually does. I simple believe people like Jamal should be banned for doing it after they have admitted to stealing so they do not have the oppurtunity to scam.
I don't believe anyone has ever been fined or banned for scamming alone. Have They? I know it would be harder to enforce, but once they admit it they should get the boot.
 
"No problem Ken, I think everyone usually does. I simple believe people like Jamal should be banned for doing it after they have admitted to stealing so they do not have the oppurtunity to scam.
I don't believe anyone has ever been fined or banned for scamming alone. Have They? I know it would be harder to enforce, but once they admit it they should get the boot."


I agree! Give him the boot. :eatsmiley

Jamal, It is quite apparent that you never took my advice earlier. It is really too bad, as a basic English class would have done a world of good for you...
 
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