Bad Guy Jay Sommers/super show/USFW/axolotl

[snakesareawesome]

Mr. Mike Mattison, this is the lamest boi post I have ever seen. You tried to misrepresent the situation and posted zero proof of any unlawful activity. You are a cold sore on the reptile hobby and I will advise anyone I ever come in contact with to avoid you like the plague.

 

[jrsexotics]

At this point, I'm not sticking up for anyone. I asked for proof that you bought the axlotls from Jay at the show ... a picture of the critters isn't exactly proof, but it is helpful. A receipt would be better.

All 3 of y'all are sounding like a broken record, the same stuff has been posted over and over. Jay is just as guilty of this as you are, none of you know when to stop typing and leave well enough alone.

Receipts don't exist between deals like this. Those messages show exactly what Jay did and what he was willing to do if I wanted bigger ones only.

It's kinda like asking a drug dealer to write you a sales receipt. Just doesn't happen.

 

[Snake-Queen]

Receipts don't exist between deals like this. Those messages show exactly what Jay did and what he was willing to do if I wanted bigger ones only.



It's kinda like asking a drug dealer to write you a sales receipt. Just doesn't happen.

Exactly why you should've left well enough alone. Without some type of proof, this is just another ploy to discredit another herper.

Mike, those screenshots don't prove anything ... they are so heavily edited, it could be pieces of different conversations.

Mike, you've been repairing your reputation, don't blow it over a petty feud. Not only would this tarnish Jay, if true, it blackens yours even more.


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[spinytail]

This is a sad post like the others in the BOI. It is suicide. The poster and his friend have basically destroyed their reputation and targeted another for speaking his mind in defense of a fellow (and young) hobbyist.

I beg you guys to get back to the hobby and let Jay be on his way. It is obvious you will not win as no one does in this situation and likely will not only hurt yourselves and Jay, but the rest of the community. The best outcome is to drop it.

I came into this hobby luckily in San Diego 25 years ago (the area all three of you live), when the community was like no other, a great community that teaches young people not only about the animals, but respect among fellow hobbyists. I like how Jay stuck up for this girl. I think we need to get back to promoting this hobby for the animals BUT also for the community. Let's drop our egos and show we can squash these beefs. I know that sounds impossible but it must be a huge headache to keep fighting.

Jay, I am in Tri-City area very close to you, if these guys piss you off swing by and vent to me or we can go road cruising over the mountain.

 

[guruza]

'I sat on this for years because i didnt want to throw you under the bus!'
More like you dug through years of messages looking for everything and anything that could possibly be used to cast a shadow on someone besides yourself.... honestly i think this just digs your own grave even deeper. Guess your just that desperate huh? lol

 

[jrsexotics]

'I sat on this for years because i didnt want to throw you under the bus!'
More like you dug through years of messages looking for everything and anything that could possibly be used to cast a shadow on someone besides yourself.... honestly i think this just digs your own grave even deeper. Guess your just that desperate huh? lol

Sam it's as simple as typing in the persons name on your message inbox in Facebook. Takes less than 30 seconds. Like fauna everything stays on Facebook unless it is deleted.

I don't care much about Jay not to continue to go back and forth with him. He's not the Saint he portrayed himself to be. The messages show for themselves. The niche on here will always be ignorant to those they hate. Doesn't bother me.

Anyways, had a good day.

 

[Nathan Tow-Arnett]

I've had a few telephone conversations with Jay in the past about issues and he was always helpful with information so he speaks the truth about his willingness to help answer questions.

I've also asked him if he'd be willing to partake in deals that were illegal and he refused. Granted at the time I didn't know what I was asking was illegal but he would've made a lot more money on deals with me at the time that he turned down and this was 2-3 years ago.

 

[Lucille]

The messages show for themselves. The niche on here will always be ignorant to those they hate. Doesn't bother me.

It does apparently bother you quite a bit as you make frequent appearances here to try to divert attention from yourself by criticizing others.

You blame Yusuke for you not paying him the 4000$ you owe him.
Blame Rick guitierez for not paying him
Blame Cher( a child) for giving you no other option but to cyber bully here with a video and subsequent 200 comment rampage against her. And Mike you need to look up cyber bullying you clearly don't know the definition

Important issues remain unaddressed.

You blame everyone else but yourself for everything you do.

This.

 

[Amelanistic Orca]

Jay's a good guy... standing up to a bully for a young lady. I commend you Jay.

Mike, you're a visual human Clown with a reduced pattern... in the sense that you don't dress the part, just act it! Good day Mr. DungPile!

 

[Chris Kennard]

Gotta give credit where due...

 

[jrsexotics]

^^^^^

 

[jrsexotics]

I'm curious to see this "dedicated facility". I do know where a lot of the animals you advertise come from and by no means are those located at "your dedicated" facility.

 

[jrsexotics]

You mentioned you had actual employees for this dedicated facility... I'm curious if they are on payroll and if you have work and comp on them or under the table?

It would suck to see the state board of equalization come to your "dedicated facility" to make sure the employees are all safe and paying taxes..

Or is your "dedicated facility" your basement like this previous employee stated?

I find it interesting especially since there is no pics of your facility, the 400 species you claim to have bred Ect.....

 

[jrsexotics]

Workmans comp... Darn voice txt

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Haha well mike what taylor is referencing was years ago. Also it was strictly taking care of axolotls. Half of the axolotl collection to be exact. Mostly comprised of my most rare morphs and a backup ex situ collection. My house in a rural area south of Kansas city was about 5 miles from my 6000 square foot facility. Where the bulk of my collection still Sits. We don't have a board of equalization there.
The reason why I keep an a collection and a b collection is that there are fires, tornados, and power outages. I have a backup
Generator at the facility but in case it fails on a 98 degree day in August I had my backup collection underground safe in a basement where the temps will
Protect them so I am not dead in the water due to a catastrophic event.

Also you will see how much he liked the experience...

Believe me mike. You know nothing about me or my collection. You have no idea where my animals are or come from. Oh and those animals aren't in a basement anymore not that it's your business haha

 

[jrsexotics]

Right Jay. You have proof of those facilities? Because that axolotl facility in Kansas doesn't belong to you......

You are housing them here in California. Just as you are selling them here under the table at the super shows. I know a few other people that have purchased them from you at the shows. You forget I too know a lot of people. You wanted to keep going and this is what you get for it. I still have more but will spread it out over weeks on this thread to make sure it's kept on track and current on the front page. You find joy in messing and commenting on my bios. That's ok. I don't mind because I am use to it. You however are not and I'm sure you are just sitting there trembling with rage.....

Call me Jay. I want to schedule our appointment.

 

[jrsexotics]

Also, Taylor made that comment is 2015 and you just moved out here to your rental house not long ago..

 

[jrsexotics]

I would say this attached and circled definitely rings true to yourself.
Especially, with exploiting those geckos at every super show. Being soooooo rare I wouldn't think you would drag them around to the shows. It would be ashame if something happened to them because you are showing them off like a new corvette to be cool while giving yourself confidence.

 

[jrsexotics]

Any fish and game or fish and wildlife officer reading this I highly suggest you do a facility check on Mr. Sommers.

I will openly allow you to check my place and feel free to call me. My number is 714-782-8421

 

[Jay Sommers Reptiles]

Yes he made that comment in 2015 and was referencing past employment up until 2013.i moved to campo california for two Years and on to vista where I have lived 13 months.Prior to my move I moved my axolotls to a facility in yuma arizona. After arizona passed a law against transgenic animals it moved back to kc metro. All the while I have kept the facility holding the majority of my collection in a building near lacygne Kansas. When usfw went to ban caudates from crossing state lines I moved 350 adult( over 60 species of caudates) from that facility to california(no axolotls) so as it sits I have a 6000 square foot facility outside of lacygne. 1800 square feet of that is designated for axolots. The remaining area houses about 85% of my reptile and amphibian collection as well as my primate and exotic animal collection. The remaining part of
My collection is with me in vista. Mostly comprised of my rarest species and pet projects or species that need more expertise to breed than what's in Kansas.
You reference taylor? What's your point? You think that he is your smoking gun to prove I secretly breed axolotls in california?
1. We don't have basements so I don't keep them in my basement in cali.

2. Taylor lives in Drexel missouri. 20 minutes from my facility. Drexel Missouri and la cygne Kansas are on the state line.

And last usfw knows me well. They know where my collection is. They know my address. Remember I have an import / export license. I have to provide my personal info. Also when filling out cites applications I also have to state where the animals are and where the parent stock is also where the paperwork is to be held. So.... Yeah think I'm good and have that covered inspector matson.

And regarding your appointment to fight you?? Remember Mike that you have posted here and in your facebook that you are going to have me served with a restraining order. And that any altercation would result in you pressing charges. It's right here in the boi in your own writing so which is it?? You want to beat me down or serve me with a retraining order. Because I am getting mixed signals from you.