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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

bear said:
It seems that every time this sort of thing happens in the reptile community we all get on here and say how they will get theirs but it never seems to happen and i think that is what the wise's are banking on. Did the people involved contact proper authorities and demand some attention to this matter? Did anyone file with small claims court? they probably wouldn't even show and you'd automatically win. If all of that has happened and still no results, I live 20 minutes from them, if 5 of you or so will come with me and we can get their address we can first knock and see whos home and if they are in the mood to hand over some animals (someone bring a camera for that one). or 2 stand there on public side walks with signs until we get some media attention. Point is lets do something and do it now. If anyone is interested in doing this or can think of anyway i can help pm me, we can meet at my house and head over there.
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As soon as I get all the numbers lined up that I need, (I'll have to back in the thread for some of them) I'm gonna call the whole world if they'll listen. CPA will be called also. As far as I'm concerned, those kids deserve a better chance then what these lowlife will give them. Also have IC3 opened in another tab right now as well.

So some of us are doing our part. Although I would have rather got the time off work to just go deal with this in person. You'd be surprised how quickly people change when it's not a computer screen they're looking at. But my boss said no time off for now. :shrug01:
 
Just to touch base. This is all the same person. I believe, and I'm not nearly done yet. Thanks for the pm's people.

Maiden name-Christine Horn

Married name-Christine McCollum

Married name-Christin Wise

And on a side not. Stop driving without a drivers license, Christine.
 
I'm game for a chat discussion. I am more than willing to put as much of my time as needed into this. You do NOT mess with someone's children without finding your way to my bad side.
 
Southern Wolf said:
just an observation... someone said they didnt think this couple was a con artist.... and that the greed just got to them and they took advantage of the situation.

If that was the case.... then they would do what is need to right the wrong. A con artist thinks there is nothing wrong with what they do... and thus no need to make it right.
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Kevin,

If they dont currently have the capacity to right the wrong, what do they do then? Also, from what I know and understand, the animals that were to be confiscated (they still owe money on). I think they have other ways to deal with this issue but like the old saying goes... You cant get blood from a turnip.

I STILL think that they did not do this on purpose and greed got the best of them. Maybe they didnt expect so many people to donate as well, who knows. Honestly, I think that they probably felt some sort of odd entitlement because they held onto the money instead of sending it as they received it. Had they sent the money as soon as they received it, I can almost guarantee that we wouldnt be in this thread today.
 
Been reading this and it is truly selfish and beyond my comprehension that someone would do this to someone.

That said. The /b/ tards at 4chan would have a HEYDAY with these two and their info.
 
The check is fake - Christina admitted it. She photo-shopped one of their real checks, but she altered the date, amount and name on the check. So no REAL check was posted. No personal information of hers or Jeff's was on that check. Christina made sure she removed that before she passed it on to Dave (I believe) as her "proof" of payment to Maggie. She probably dropped a couple numbers on the routing/acct number as well when she shopped it.


Christina, however, represented it as a REAL check to cover her auction funds theft - right, Christina? Christina then altered her financial documents (don't remember if it was PayPal or her bank statement), but she ain't too bright, so dates and deductions and balances didn't jive.

Only the guiltiest of the guilty scream so loudly and try to pass blame and throw out baseless, ridiculous threats about attorneys and police and he/she hacked my email, my PayPal, my life ... blah blah blah.
We've all heard it countless times from the World's Dumbest Herp Scammers.

Christina, Jeff - you guys are toast ... and deserving of every nasty little thing that now comes your way. You had your chance this morning when Dave was going out of HIS way to help you make things better. You spit on him, you spit on Maggie and those precious girls, you spit on everyone who trusted YOU to help families in need.

I need to stop ... I'll get myself banned .... I'm so :censored: livid.
 
Southern Wolf said:
just an observation... someone said they didnt think this couple was a con artist.... and that the greed just got to them and they took advantage of the situation.

If that was the case.... then they would do what is need to right the wrong. A con artist thinks there is nothing wrong with what they do... and thus no need to make it right.
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They could both have a hundred dollars in each hand and they'd still not have any sense.

Dose anybody actually believe they would go to an attorney and explain what they did in order to get legal advise? Not to mention where would they come up with the money to pay said attorney. It's all a load of crap. She is miserably trying to divert the attention and blame away from herself and poor widdle hurting knees Jeffy.


Oh and Nick, if we end up doing time I've got your back and not in a gay kind of way. But if you drop your soap you're on your own. :eek:
 
Im pretty sure that no one can get in trouble for posting a check online that was a fake. I mean I am blonde and all and certainly do have my moments...but cmon.
 
just got off the phone with grand blanc police and they said to make sure the address is in the city of grand blanc and then told me to bring all the info up to them. does anyone have the address?
 
StrictlyExotics said:
Jeff, I am going to be right to the point, take your pants off Christina and put them back on. Why are you having her, a young girl do all of the talking here. You are a grown man, start acting like one. Honestly, I like when Christina posts in here because she just keeps opening herself up to federal charges by self incrimination.

Dont you think its time to man up and begin to handle this problem for YOUR family? Do you honestly want to lose your 4 children over 3500.00? Want to see your wife behind bars? I am not asking you to post here, but, I would like a response to my email that I sent you. I also do not want Christina to respond to it as I would rather talk to you man to man.

Get this straight right here though... I am not here to bail you out. But I do want to talk to you about a solution to your problem. You need to solve this because it will not go away. Its blatantly obvious that if you truly didnt care, you would not be coming back here and reading this thread.

Take this as fair warning, if you continue to avoid this, criminal charges will be pressed by me and guess what, I havent done anything to you that I have to account for so you cant use the "oh you are gonna be in trouble too" line with me;). All I want is to see Maggie and Rick get the funds WE donated to them, not you.
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I can sense Jeff turning on Christina by pinning everything on her. While Christina is in jail maybe he'll file for full custody and find a new girlfriend...lol

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serpentsden said:
I can sense Jeff turning on Christina by pinning everything on her. While Christina is in jail maybe he'll file for full custody and find a new girlfriend...lol

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Nothing against women but... I see this as a lot of her faults. She ran the auctions, she bought animals, she does the talkng in that household. From the sounds of it, she is the one that makes the phone calls and talks on messengers too. She is also the one who self incriminated herself as well:rofl:
 
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