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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

What really strikes me as odd is that she is asking for baby things and little girl things ie... 5yr old. I wonder if she was collecting this stuff for herself or to forward it on to Maggie for her children.

Maggie, do your children have interest in the items that were listed? I have no clue on those types of items so any clarification would help me. She was pretty precise in what she was asking for, like cloth diapers...

I know the Wise's have four kids and I dont know what their gender(s) are but, seems like she only listed things for girls. I am sort of confused as to why she would even post there to be honest.
 
Dude....thats beyond insane...being a liar, cheat and horrid person is one thing....but thats like serious mental misfiring kinda crap right there
 
crissabella said:
Great job with the screen shots:thumbsup:

I'm wondering how far she would have taken this pregnancy scam? I hate to think of what she would have done to actually get a baby or babies and follow this through til the end:>Puke<:
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My guess (ok, speculation, but still) is she would have continued using U/S pictures from their (3amigos) website and then went ahead with the loss story at 27 weeks, blaming their deaths on the depo being in her system when they were "conceived".

Sad. Disgusting.:angry:
 
StrictlyExotics said:
What really strikes me as odd is that she is asking for baby things and little girl things ie... 5yr old. I wonder if she was collecting this stuff for herself or to forward it on to Maggie for her children.

Maggie, do your children have interest in the items that were listed? I have no clue on those types of items so any clarification would help me. She was pretty precise in what she was asking for, like cloth diapers...

I know the Wise's have four kids and I dont know what their gender(s) are but, seems like she only listed things for girls. I am sort of confused as to why she would even post there to be honest.
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Her ISO post continued to ask for boy things, for a 3 yr old and 1 yr old, I believe. The ISO post was many (hundreds?) of items they desperately needed.. I didn't screen shot the whole thing, just the top.
 
StrictlyExotics said:
What really strikes me as odd is that she is asking for baby things and little girl things ie... 5yr old. I wonder if she was collecting this stuff for herself or to forward it on to Maggie for her children.

Maggie, do your children have interest in the items that were listed? I have no clue on those types of items so any clarification would help me. She was pretty precise in what she was asking for, like cloth diapers...

I know the Wise's have four kids and I dont know what their gender(s) are but, seems like she only listed things for girls. I am sort of confused as to why she would even post there to be honest.
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Seems to me the most logical intention, considering the immorality of the person involved, is to resell the items to make a profit. I HIGHLY doubt she has an intention of sending ANYTHING to Maggie.
 
TheFragginDragon said:
Seems to me the most logical intention, considering the immorality of the person involved, is to resell the items to make a profit. I HIGHLY doubt she has an intention of sending ANYTHING to Maggie.
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Very possible John. I guess for me NOT ever having children I dont see the resale value in a lot of what she was asking for. Doesnt mean that there isnt any but, I was never around little children or little children things like that.
 
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Hey all...I have been trying to keep up with all this...but wow!! ANyways...I was wondering ....has anyone contacted paypal with what has happened? Not sure but they seem pretty anal when it comes to ppl doing underhanded things. Just a suggestion that I am sure has probably been already looked at.
 
Rose, thank you so much for your valuable contribution to taking this lowlife DOWN!

Just when I thought Christina couldn't get any lower, she proves there IS lower! I can't even imagine stealing a sonogram shot and fabricating a pregnancy to play on the kindness of strangers!

No doubt she wanted all the baby/children's items for herself or to sell (yard sale, online, etc)

I also noticed she used "Christine" in some of her profiles, and "Christina" in others. Small thing, but telling.
 
hopefully this helps to keep her from scamming any mothers on that site

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StrictlyExotics said:
Very possible John. I guess for me NOT ever having children I dont see the resale value in a lot of what she was asking for. Doesnt mean that there isnt any but, I was never around little children or little children things like that.
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She was asking for free cloth diapers in part of her ISO. Cloth diapers aren't cheap (of course, us who CD save $$ in the long run, which is the point of CDing..).. they are easy to resell, especially on DS, fast turnaround. For example, BumGenius brands run at $18 each diaper- new. They are usually $12 each used on DS.. she gets 10 of them for free, depending on how many.. she can easily make a hundred bucks in one sale. Top that off with many sellers who don't ship the items they sold, you can re-sell your "already sold" items to another person! And the cycle continues..

We have another scammer on that board who does the same thing. "Sob story, woe is me, send me free diapers"- then she immediately flips them and lists them on Craigslist and other sites for a profit. Unfortunately, our mods aren't too concerned with those issues. That's why we have the dramablog. :D
 
Vintagechic said:
Her ISO post continued to ask for boy things, for a 3 yr old and 1 yr old, I believe. The ISO post was many (hundreds?) of items they desperately needed.. I didn't screen shot the whole thing, just the top.
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Here's the whole begging post, broken up into chunks. Sorry for not posting the images straight up, I don't know how well my bandwidth would hold out.

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Vintagechic said:
Sadly, I'm sure the mods will remove it ASAP. But thanks for trying. :(
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Really? uhg lame...why would MODs want to help protect someone like that....they have a rating system for a reason! for people to report or praise! I was part of the donations....so its an accurate rating to the transaction I had with her

*sigh*
 
TheFragginDragon said:
Seems to me the most logical intention, considering the immorality of the person involved, is to resell the items to make a profit. I HIGHLY doubt she has an intention of sending ANYTHING to Maggie.
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I was just goin to say the same thing. The wife and I gathered a bunch of stuff, including baby and toddler clothes and toys, had one yard sale, and took the rest to a flea market. The clothes were the best seller by far. Between the two sales, we made a few hundred bucks. I bet a that is exactly what she had planned.
 

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There is no doubt that what has happened here is absolutely deplorable, and nothing that I can say hasn't been said already about the Wises'. I'd rather focus on the positive side of this mess.

I want to gear this towards the Fauna Members who are making a real difference here...
Nicely, nicely done all, no matter how big or small the part you have played is. The exemplary job you have done, and continue to do, is truly inspiring. You have shown the best side of humanity in the face of some of the worst.

Although you didn't ask for it, and may not want it, you're getting a round of applause from me anyway. Kudos to all of you.
 
Willow said:
Really? uhg lame...why would MODs want to help protect someone like that....they have a rating system for a reason! for people to report or praise! I was part of the donations....so its an accurate rating to the transaction I had with her

*sigh*
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DS is weird. I can't say why they would protect someone like that. I don't agree with it, at all. It is easy to get banned for picking on someone, but not as easy to get banned for scamming the members of the board.

They will remove it because it wasn't a transaction that happened on Diaperswappers. Even though it is factual, even though she will continue to scam- they will let it slide.

I used to be a lot more active on that site, until I realized how badly it was being moderated.
 
I'm coming out of lurk mode to let you know that I posted to my blog about these two individuals. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to put up the link or not, so pm me if you'd like to read it.

I just wanted you all to know that the story is getting out there. I hope that even if they're not behind bars, they're still not free to move among society.
 
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