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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

RichsBallPythons said:
I am also a CCW carrier and in the sense of the quoted text is enough to alert the County Clerks office they have made death threats on the community and you can say BYE BYE CCW for LIFE.
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I dont need a CCW... I am a federal officer and can carry anywhere in the US. So who is this supposed to be.
 
You're an idiot Jeff. I didn't threaten, I DID and am DOING. As are others. Wouldn't that be considered keeping a PROMISE?

A threat would be more like, "You're lucky I couldn't get time off work, or your butt would have been kicked by now".

See he difference?

Like I said, it's coming. It's gonna come fast too, so get all your little twisted stories lined up for the law when they come a calling.
 
RichsBallPythons said:
Seems its the old saying 1 for you 2 for me
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United Way doesnt even take that high of a percentage and they take tons due to their overhead. Here is some info on Charity fraud.

The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop and avoid them. To file a complaint or to get free information on wise giving, visit www.ftc.gov/charityfraud or call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261.
 
SamanthaJane13 said:
LOL-not a single bit of legalese, other than "Cease & Desist", then-"FYI, any of you assholes try to show up at my house, please be aware, I have a ccw for a Glock, 9mm, and a Smith & Wesson 9mm with training on how to use them both, and will in fact if I feel my life or family members including Jeff & Christina and especially their children are threatened."
WOW!!!!

Nice "lawyer"!!!
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Here is the part you missed... so is Jeff and Christina now living with the lawyer? :rofl:
 
SamanthaJane13 said:
LOL-not a single bit of legalese, other than "Cease & Desist", then-"FYI, any of you assholes try to show up at my house, please be aware, I have a ccw for a Glock, 9mm, and a Smith & Wesson 9mm with training on how to use them both, and will in fact if I feel my life or family members including Jeff & Christina and especially their children are threatened."

WOW!!!!

Nice "lawyer"!!!
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Why would someone show up at a Mr Harts house?
 
StrictlyExotics said:
Fri, May 28, 2010 7:25:53 PMCease & Desist
From: David N. Hart <[email protected]>Add to Contacts
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]


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Please refrain from contacting Jeff or Christina Wise, you are acting like you’re their friend but it is far from being the truth. You have nothing to do with this at all, and will constitute harassment on your part, which is a crime.

Threatening them that they will lose their children is far from what a friend would do, besides the fact they have nothing to worry about on that aspect.....They are wonderful parents, and have nothing to fear.

You and everybody on that malicious site are condoning and authorizing and making fraudulent statements, by you assholes putting things in writing are only furthering the lawsuit that Jeff and Christina are gathering information on to sue you with.

Quit threatening them with Federal crime, Internet crimes, or that they are going to jail and any other further asinine statement that you can come up with.

It is no crime for a person running an auction to take a percentage of the profit for their benefit of running and maintaining and auction.....Have you ever heard of Sotheby's or Christie's you think they run their auctions for free. The only crime that was committed is you failed to find out what percentage they were taking.

If you feel that you have a civil suit please by all means sue them, but please be aware I have everything in writing by all of you to back up the defense of the civil suit.

All of you have contacted the Flint police department, and have been told the same thing, you need to file of civil suit.

FYI, any of you assholes try to show up at my house, please be aware, I have a ccw for a Glock, 9mm, and a Smith & Wesson 9mm with training on how to use them both, and will in fact if I feel my life or family members including Jeff & Christina and especially their children are threatened.

You have no idea the means that I will go to to protect Jeff & Christina and more so their children.

Please be aware that a restraining orders are in the process for each and everyone that site, especially Maggie, David, and now yourself. The theft of their reptiles that you guys tried to pull off is also on record. You guys are the ones who are doing all of the crimes.

If you do not cease and desist from harassment, stating malicious lies we will have no recourse then to sue each and everyone of you for defamation of character, harassment, stalking, unlawful gathering, unlawful threats against their lives, homeland security, unlawful claims about their children, each and every claim you people are making are all being documented, and have been told, many are a felony, and are prosecutable, these btw are not civil actions.

Please do not think that I do not know what is going on, I'm aware of everything. So do not think you need to enlighten me.

David N. Hart
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This reminds me of

:mah: :mah: :mah:


sorry.... couldnt help myself.
 
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David Hart said:
It is no crime for a person running an auction to take a percentage of the profit for their benefit of running and maintaining and auction.....Have you ever heard of Sotheby's or Christie's you think they run their auctions for free. The only crime that was committed is you failed to find out what percentage they were taking.
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Under the circumstances, I think if someone has the time to dig up email addresses, they might send this quote and a link to the thread to Sotheby's and Christie's auction houses. To compare them the the Wises might seem like defamation in their eyes......And, who knows, they might offer their services for free to help Maggie, you never know til you ask.....
 
Mr Hart, since you MUST be reading this thread... Would you like my mailing address to serve me with my lawsuit papers per the email I sent you? Let me know;) I would LOVE to go to court over this.
 
Cease & Desist
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I think not!

This is going to get MUCH worse for them before it gets ANY better... It's unfortunate that their "family" decides to attempt to involve themselves... I'm sure they're more willing to believe Jeff and Christina's lies over the truth from hundreds of strangers, but I highly doubt that THREATENING us is the way any way to go about showing that you disagree with our methods.

This email was clearly a "scare tactic" to attempt to stop us from making their recent "Fame" more public than it has already become. I for one would LOVE to see them on national news (I doubt that'll actually happen, but it really would be a testament to what we are capable of).

I for one do not plan to stop spreading the word about these two one bit. There is nothing anyone related to, or associated with, the Wises could possibly say or do (within legal limits) to change my actions regarding them.

More emails sent, and a few responses have come back from people agreeing to spread the word to everyone that THEY can. (and a few responses from people that must have already received emails regarding the wises that seemed REALLY irritated... but... better to be irritated and informed, then happy and scammed)

"BRING IT!" indeed... Because we ALL fully intend to!
 
SamanthaJane13 said:
Maybe they've already skipped town to "Texas"-with does-I believe have CCW-or they want us to THINK they've left MI.
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Oh any fellow Texan will tell you they Honor almost EVERY states CCW laws. They actually encourage it according to a officer i talked to few years back. They allow open carry holstered in plain view. Kinda seems why crime levels dropped a bit there.


I highly a person with a CCW would go around making threats like that in writing, as thats grounds to take it away.
 
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