Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

[crotalusadamanteus]

Considering they never mentioned a dime being deducted, I would've.

 

[Southern Wolf]

Yep..... that is still fraud. With that train of thought... maybe I should charge a fee for me putting together all this info.


naaaaaaa Im doing it for the right reasons.

 

[StrictlyExotics]

Yep..... that is still fraud. With that train of thought... maybe I should charge a fee for me putting together all this info.


naaaaaaa Im doing it for the right reasons.

Sorry Kevin, but taking a "couple" points would not constitute fraud by the truest definition of the word. As much as you would like for it be, a court of law would do nothing to them for that.

 

[Cheryl Marchek AKA JM]

I know it's a lousy excuse~ but honestly....I just had surgery (I know you hear it all the time) so I have not yet filed my IC3 complaint. I'm sitting here in a vicoden haze reading the instructions and I need

# Name of the individual or business that defrauded you
# Address of the individual or business that defrauded you
# Telephone number of the individual or business that defrauded you
# Website and email address of the individual or business that defrauded you

I don't KNOW their address or phone number. I"m sure it's in this thread I've not had a prayer of keeping up with and is now 193 pages.....but your not really going to make me read it all to find it are you? Someone please post up the address, phone number again~ and tell me what the name of their website was.

Last I heard before the actual surgery I just needed to file the IC3~ do I need to do more now? (PLEASE keep it simple....I mentioned the vicoden right?)

 

[Cheryl Marchek AKA JM]

trying to take a shortcut I looked up their user names and went to their most recent posts....in this thread if I should have left out the part about vicoden haze...but thats too late so let me just point out mine was prescribed to me by my surgeon, paid for by my health insurance, and I really don't see why anyone would take this recreationally....I'm getting car sick sitting still.

And I still need that info if unless we are no longer filing with IC3
Thanks

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Jeffery Allen Wise
Christina Wise / Christina Horn

Last known address
4204 Drummon Square
Flint, MI 48504

Previous address...
Garden of Eden lawn care
2284 Oakdale Dr
Waterford, MI 48329
(also listed as address for David N. Hart)

Phone number has been changed numerous times lately. Last one they called me from was 810.836.5414

They emptied all content from their website. www.wisereptiles.com

If you were directly involved in the auctions, then it would be nice to also have a case number from your local PD, but keeping the vicoden in mind, that might be more of a tsk then it sounds.

 

[Cheryl Marchek AKA JM]

The only thing I did for the auctions was provide documentation of one "Normal" actually being a het albino (Long story)~ but I did donate $100 through paypal~ processed as a "Gift" because they told me too.

The vicoden is prescribed~ so no problem...except I have no ride to the station...and they told me not to drive for two weeks...and if I"m car sick sitting still...I think we are all happier if I do not drive. If it's important I'll work out a ride~ next week. Sitting up this long is about all I'm gonna be able to do for the next several hours. Nap time again.

Thanks for the info~ I'll try to fill out the form right now so it gets done at least.

 

[shrap]

WTF.....

Fucking humans.

 

[Abby]

WTF.....

Fucking humans.

Sammy! Been wondering where you were

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

WTF.....

Fucking humans.

Exactly why I like my reptiles better then most of my own race. (and by race, I mean literally, Homo Sapien)

 

[Cheryl Marchek AKA JM]

Got it done. They said once it was processed they would send me a complaint ID. Do I need to send that to someone here once I get it?

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Send it to David (DAND) or myself and I'll get it to him.

 

[snakes335]

Jeffery Allen Wise
Christina Wise / Christina Horn



Phone number has been changed numerous times lately. Last one they called me from was 810.836.5414

maybe this will help the last number I contacted them with was 810-496-3020
used it to sell them some rodents

 

[DAND]

The only thing I did for the auctions was provide documentation of one "Normal" actually being a het albino (Long story)~ but I did donate $100 through paypal~ processed as a "Gift" because they told me too.

The vicoden is prescribed~ so no problem...except I have no ride to the station...and they told me not to drive for two weeks...and if I"m car sick sitting still...I think we are all happier if I do not drive. If it's important I'll work out a ride~ next week. Sitting up this long is about all I'm gonna be able to do for the next several hours. Nap time again.

Thanks for the info~ I'll try to fill out the form right now so it gets done at least.

Okay, but the only way your excuse (be it sounds like a good one at that) will be accepted is if you bring in a doctors note.

I'm guessing vomiting at the Police station would not go over too well so I would say it can wait until you are felling better which I hope is soon. If you could get the IC3 complaint done by Wednesday I would appreciate it.

Here is the most updated info I have for any who need it:

Jeffrey Allen Wise, Sr.
Christina Marie (Horn) Wise

IP address(es) in order of ussage:
68.60.76.112
68.60.76.177
68.61.44.64
68.60.76.70

Believed residence:
4204 Drummon Square
Flint, Mich. 48504

Prior address:
6019 Belsay Road
Grand Blanc, Mich. 48439

Last known Phone number: 1-810-496-1642
Previously known number: 1-810-496-3020

e-mail(s):
[email protected]
[email protected]

Wsebsite(s):
http://www.herperforums.wisereptiles.com
http://www.wisereptiles.com

Other businesses:
Garden of Eden Lawn Care
6016 Hillcrest St
Grosse Pointe, MI 48236
(313) 884-0779

 

[repsrul]

I have to admit that what I did was wrong. I used someone elses money to buy presciption medication. I have looked into classes and have found some around my area and I will attend my first NA class tomorrow.I found tons of local classes in my area because I know that I have to clean up. If this does not work I am looking into either outpatient or inpatient to clean myself up. I would really like to apoligize to maggie for this as well as the other fauna members. What I did was wrong and for this I am sorry and I will be getting the help I need to overcome my problem.

This is as far in to this thread as I has gotten so far. I am so I just needed to comment on this load of crap. So now you are going to rehab? So what is it are you a drug addict or is your knee messed up? How do you know you need a knee replacement? Doctors usually will not replace knees until one is in their 50s. Have you gone to physical therapy for your knee?

This whole thing is a one big giant smelly load. Man up and do what is right. I for one could care less about you and your wife. Do what you need to do to get the money you stole. Maggie needs the money that was raised for her GET IT TO HER!!!! You

 

[Matt2979]

One more IC3 filed. If you haven't filed yours, do it now!! Mine took me less than 20 minutes, even though I was very thorough where I felt I should be. I'll admit that I've procrastinated because of my schedule, but it won't take as much time as you think....so DO IT NOW!!!

 

[Southern Wolf]

Sorry Kevin, but taking a "couple" points would not constitute fraud by the truest definition of the word. As much as you would like for it be, a court of law would do nothing to them for that.

IF they did not disclose they were taking a cut... then yes it was fraud.

 

[Dennis Hultman]

Sorry Kevin, but taking a "couple" points would not constitute fraud by the truest definition of the word. As much as you would like for it be, a court of law would do nothing to them for that.

What the heck is your problem? Fraud is fraud. It is very simple. I don't know why you are going the extra mile to state that you wouldn't have mind if they took a little off the top. That it wouldn't be a crime. It doesn't matter whatyou would have minded. It was a crime to take anything.

This is now an auction for custom website all money goes to Chuck and Maggie!

I have been giving the brother to the other boa to put up for auction all the money is going to Chucks family!!!!

This is now an auction for a Boa all funds go to Rick (donations still welcome

Three(3) FREEDOM BREEDER CB70 LEVELS up for auction (all the proceeds will go to Maggie & Chuck)

They stated all funds were going to the families. Why do you think they posted the phony check? They didn't provide a legal service to take a percentage of anything. Again, what the hell is your problem?

 

[brd7666]

What the heck is your problem? Fraud is fraud. It is very simple. I don't know why you are going the extra mile to state that you wouldn't have mind if they took a little off the top. That it wouldn't be a crime. It doesn't matter whatyou would have minded. It was a crime to take anything.

He has been making light of several things during this thread that could be considered defending the Wise's. It makes you wonder what his motive is behind it. Or does he just not think about what he is saying.

 

[DAND]

Okay, for those who are hard of hearing, still in remedial English or just that dense, Jeff and Christina Wise stole a total of $4,746.62 which was intended for Maggie and Rich and their families. The Wises did not have any right to take or spend any of these monies. PERIOD!!!!