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cahrens said:
I read somewhere that CO2 doesn't work well with snakes. I think the freezer would be the best way to go. My vet told me once that the freezer is a very humane way to put down a reptile. They pretty much just go to sleep. Good luck whichever you choose.

I agree! Freeze all them mofos!
 
Jas, I believe that it is best for everyone in the herp world to know who has brought snakes from this Wyatt guy seeing as what this virus has done already to a few people's collections. We will know who to stay away from when buying ball's and or other snakes.
 
I couldn't agree more..

This needs to be brought out, so others dont suffer the way Jen did...to many people only look at price and could buy from one of these breeders and f up there collection.
 
JenHarrison said:
They're on the euthanasia roster, which has been moved forward to tonight. I can't afford to pay for them all to each have a lethal injection, so they're being put into CO2 chambers my dad made out of coolers for me.

Actually, you have every choice in the matter. You're the one calling the shots.

Sorry to be harsh, but I can't fathom killing healthy animals unless you're just unable to take care of them and unwilling to give them to someone else?
 
I cannot afford to continue caring for them all, and I refuse to give them to anyone else. Even if I gave them away as "pets", some jerk would see dollar signs with the clown, the yellowbelly, the adult females, whatever and either sell them or breed them -- spreading this virus further. There is no way to tell if they are or aren't asymptomatic carriers, and I can't take that risk any more. So no, I don't have a choice.
 
ophidile said:
Actually, you have every choice in the matter. You're the one calling the shots.

Sorry to be harsh, but I can't fathom killing healthy animals unless you're just unable to take care of them and unwilling to give them to someone else?

Assuming that they are actually "healthy animals". There is no way for her to be 100% sure that they aren't infected.
 
ophidile said:
Actually, you have every choice in the matter. You're the one calling the shots.

Sorry to be harsh, but I can't fathom killing healthy animals unless you're just unable to take care of them and unwilling to give them to someone else?

They aint healthy! End of story!! See how easy that is?? Find another one..
 
jasballs said:
That sucks! I know of atleast two breeders that bought from Wyatt around the time jen did.. They are now selling offspring from those animals I believe.. This is going to be Ugly for alot of people!! Should I do my part and post the breeders names? Or just post the link from here the BOI, Where they posted there props to Wyatt?

Personally, I would post the breeders names here as well as link this BOI post (and his own) to wherever they recommended Wyatt.
 
Speaking of outing breeders; Cat you have said twice that people have had THIS virus in the past. Earlier in this thread it was said that several "big breeders" have had THIS virus in the past. Rather than making vague references how about someone come out with what they know, or as the case may be "think" they know and post their names. Along with proof that it was THIS virus that was "swept under the rug" years ago...
 
lillyorchid said:
Jas, I believe that it is best for everyone in the herp world to know who has brought snakes from this Wyatt guy seeing as what this virus has done already to a few people's collections. We will know who to stay away from when buying ball's and or other snakes.

OK, If you do a search for Wyatt, You'll see a few "guys" giving him props around the time Jen posted some animals where sick.. Winkie?
 
shrap said:
Dan, Steve,

Would you guys put $50,000-$100,000 worth of snakes in those racks after a bleach dip and feel 100% safe?

No, Sammy. We were just discussing the effectiveness or not of bleach and how to improve it. See my comment below:

The BoidSmith said:
There's one thing though, bleach tends to inactivate when in contact with organic matter if surfaces are dirty. Enclosures are way to cheap by comparison if you consider the damage that an unknown virus can cause in ones or other people's collections. Regrettably we don't know the economic situation of every individual. For some it's feasible to discard everything away and start anew, whereas for some it's nearly impossible.

Best

Best! :)
 
Gecko_Den said:
Speaking of outing breeders; Cat you have said twice that people have had THIS virus in the past. Earlier in this thread it was said that several "big breeders" have had THIS virus in the past. Rather than making vague references how about someone come out with what they know, or as the case may be "think" they know and post their names. Along with proof that it was THIS virus that was "swept under the rug" years ago...

OK! BHB, Had something like this. I saw it with your albino. and Joes pastel. Didnt kill off your stuff cause neither of you had anything then. Ralphs lost animals he got from bhb also I bet?? I've even heard NERD had something. But, I'm pretty sure that was all Bullcrap lol!
 
jasballs said:
OK! BHB, Had something like this.

Did he have something "like this" or did he have this "virus"? My baby Albino that I got from him that died exhibited no signs of illness, unlike the animals described in Jen's situation. It also didn't waste away it just died suddenly. If you recall my request was for proof, not hearsay and conjecture...
 
Gecko_Den said:
Did he have something "like this" or did he have this "virus"? My baby Albino that I got from him that died exhibited no signs of illness, unlike the animals described in Jen's situation. It also didn't waste away it just died suddenly. If you recall my request was for proof, not hearsay and conjecture...

Cloud it over bro! Its all good!! Thats what everyone does!
Send me another email like that.. I dare ya! :shrug01:
 
jasballs said:
OK! BHB, Had something like this. I saw it with your albino. and Joes pastel. Didnt kill off your stuff cause neither of you had anything then. Ralphs lost animals he got from bhb also I bet?? I've even heard NERD had something. But, I'm pretty sure that was all Bullcrap lol!

Wow - I'd sure like to hear from them now on this matter since you threw this out here...
 
Gecko_Den said:
Did he have something "like this" or did he have this "virus"? My baby Albino that I got from him that died exhibited no signs of illness, unlike the animals described in Jen's situation. It also didn't waste away it just died suddenly. If you recall my request was for proof, not hearsay and conjecture...

I never said he had "this" I said I know of some people having bought cbb animals including morphs. Drop dead for no reason. Other then maybe feeding it to large a mouse?? :rolleyes:
 
Mike P. said:
Wow - I'd sure like to hear from them now on this matter since you threw this out here...

Mike, I'd like them to BALL UP also. But there wifes wont let them!! Fag thang!
 
jasballs said:
I never said he had "this" I said I know of some people having bought cbb animals including morphs. Drop dead for no reason. Other then maybe feeding it to large a mouse?? :rolleyes:

One thing's for sure, someone that claims never to have animals die while in their care, they are either not 100% truthful or they haven't kept animals long enough. :rolleyes:
 
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