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Bad Guy Jerry Tresser www.jtresser.com fruitflies

Um...huh? Can someone translate that for me please?


Noelle

I probably could...but, frankly, it's disruptive and off topic; so I'll just encourage you to ignore it. Look at it this way, it earned him an infraction - is it really a subject we want to focus on (and risk infractions for continuing the off topic discussion)?
 
I just stumbled upon this post in one of the rarely-used BOI subsections.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1524955#post1524955
Thinking of buying an animal from this seller. Think again.
A few months ago I bought an N. Wheeleri from the drosophila company. In the photos provided on the kingsnake add it looked like a nice animal. Good weight, decent coloration, photographed in its habitat with a hide space and sand substrate. A good gecko to add to my collecion of nephrurus.

UPON ARRIVAL I WAS FURIOUS!

Of course the gecko was photographed in its natural habitat. The sand on it worked great for concealing its protruding back bone and skinny tail. I had the animal for 5 days before it died. Arrived deathly skinny, wouldnt eat....who would ship an animal in this condition to another buyer? The Drosophila Co.

DO NOT BUY FROM THESE SCUMBAGS.

They were very helpful and good about answering emails. As soon as I recieved the half dead animal and emailed them about its condition I never heard from them again. I posted about them on other forums and didnt see adds from them for awhile but here they go again selling :censored:quality animals and lining there pockets. No help on this case from paypal I might add!

THESE PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT THE ANIMALS THEY ARE SELLING OR THE PEOPLE BUYING THEM. As soon as they have cash in hand forget about customer service or purchasing a decent animal.

Maybe some will feel differently but my transacation was absoluetly terrible.
Another glowing review of Jerry's customer service, communication practices, and general integrity.


If there's any truth to this post, it would appear that Jerry's animals may not be receiving the best of care. If Ben's skink actually did die, it's entirely plausible that it's death was due to the level of disregard that the above-mentioned gecko must have received, prior to it being dumped on an unsuspecting customer.
 
Ugh. Stupid mornings. I had actually meant to post this in the other Tresser Bad Guy thread, but I suppose it ties into this one just as nicely.
 
They do not know there inventory because all animals are dropped shipped from a supplier. They would never see the monitor, nor would they know anything about it other that it is availalble or not...

Be very careful with there return policy. You have to pay shipping back if something is wrong on there part and even sending a replacement is at there whim.. Secondly, you even have to pay to have the animal in question re shipped to you.... Devils in the detail with this company.. Very bad people to deal with on livestock.... JERRY
Since Tresser crawled out from under his rock for long enough to slam a seller in a different thread, I couldn't help wanting to give everyone the opportunity to juxtapose his most recent post with his own business habits.
JERRY TRESSER
to me

We never obligate ourselves in having to do anything ! If we offer a refund or replacement its not because we guarantee anything, its because we know these things happen from time to time and we have been in this business for 19 years with very limited problems.
There will be no replacement nor refund to Sandra.
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What we dont do is "Live Delivery Guaranteed".

Our inventory is substantial and we prefer to maintain an atmosphere of a healthy business relationship with everyone we sell to..on trust. Its that simple.
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UPON ARRIVAL I WAS FURIOUS!

Of course the gecko was photographed in its natural habitat. The sand on it worked great for concealing its protruding back bone and skinny tail. I had the animal for 5 days before it died. Arrived deathly skinny, wouldnt eat....who would ship an animal in this condition to another buyer? The Drosophila Co.

DO NOT BUY FROM THESE SCUMBAGS.

They were very helpful and good about answering emails. As soon as I recieved the half dead animal and emailed them about its condition I never heard from them again...

THESE PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT THE ANIMALS THEY ARE SELLING OR THE PEOPLE BUYING THEM. As soon as they have cash in hand forget about customer service or purchasing a decent animal.
... When I called to complain that my several thousand flys was not even several hundred they said OK we will just refund your $$ which never happened, I wrote it off as to someone I would just never guy from again...
Considering his own whimsical approach to deciding whether to issue a refund, it's a bit odd that he'd play that card against someone else. What's the issue, Jerry, do you have a copyright on the idea of a laughable TOS? Seems to be pot vs. kettle. The honor system relies on the premise that the seller actually has some honor. Sadly, it'd appear that Tresser doesn't possess that particular trait.


Also, I just found yet another negative post about Tresser, in one of the nearly-abandoned subsections of the site.
I called this guy cause I had mite issues. I also was promised way more flies than I got. Also, when the mite stuff they sold me didn't work, they all of a sudden had a new kind, that would for sure work!! After that purchase didn't work, lo and behold, they had just created a new kind that would definitely work!!

My first couple orders were disappointing, but my last one is what sealed the deal that this guy rips people off.

I placed an order, we agreed how it would ship and at what time. After we agreed on everything, and he had actually shipped the flies, he sent me an e-mail telling me a new time and way it was to be delivered, and that it should be up to me to call the post office before the flies left there for delivery to my specific house so I could intercept the package in it's delivery to my place so I could insure they'd show Ok.

Well, this jerk sent that e-mail AFTER we had already agreed on stuff!! And, because I didn't know there was going to be an e-mail coming from him with last minute changes, I didn't actually get the e-mail till after the flies showed up dead. To make matters worse, there was a provable $50 discrepancy on what I paid for and what I got.

Even though he admitted to the $50 difference I was owed, and that he sent the e-mail after we had already agreed on order specifics, he still told me it was my fault they died for not checking my e-mail constantly to see if he changed anything, and their death was because I didn't see his e-mail changing things up and I didn't intercept my own package. With the $50 he owed me, he said he'd send me $25 and some mite chemicals. I said I didn't want the $25 and mite chemicals, I wanted the whole $50 plus the fruit flies reshipped according to how we agree.

He was very very very argumentative, insulting, rude, and screaming. I then, knowing I have little patience for thieves and stupidity, gave my poor employee the job of dealing with this issue. He also got rudeness, arguing, etc. The only other time I've seen speople nickle & dime to rip someone off for petty amounts of money like this guy did with me was when I've had the unfortunate experiences of dealing with hard core drug addicts, who'll :censored:over anyone for ten bucks. That's what he reminded me of, a desperate drug addict. I don't know if that's what he is, but he is scheming, and does nickle & dime thievery.

Anyways, once me and my employee saw he was going to admit to the $50 discrepancy, just only offer $25 and some chemicals I didn't want. And that he was not going to take care of all the fruit flies that had died because of his incompetence to follow through with our agreement. We decided instead of arguing with him further, we'd just contact paypal.
(By the way, there was definitely about 1/4th to 1/6th of the flies I was supposed to get in the cups dead. He claimed to have "tripled them up in packing to save shipping costs," but it was obviously waaaay short of what I was supposed to get.)

After he received the notice from paypal that we were done arguing and just wanted our cash back. It was about $100 in fruit flies we needed returned(Would have accepted him to reship the appropriate amount of fruit flies, as long as shipped how we agree) and $50 extra, he charged and gave nothing for. Anyways, after he receives the paypal email, he contacts me and my employee and says, very snottily, that now we're just gonna get nothing, no matter what he owes cause we had to go cry to paypal. He'll give us money if they say, but if not, he won't even take care of the $50 he's admitted to!!! What a :censored::censored:!!

Anyways, after talking much with paypal, they totally agreed he was in the wrong by going over the many many e-mails both my employee and I had the misfortune of going back and forth with this drosophila jerk in, and paypal told me they were starting a fraud investigation on him. However, because our communication were through private e-mail accounts, and not by messages sent through paypal proper, they could not really count them as evidence, and were terribly sorry.

Luckily, paypal knows me, likes me, knew this guy was a lying :censored:, and felt bad for me enough that paypal gave me about $55 bucks of THEIR OWN MONEY to make up for the fact I had this frustration. They also advised from now on I only do communications regarding my buying issues about someone either through paypal(or ebay if applicable), cause it's the only way messages back & forth can be used as evidence, no matter how guilty someone looks.

So the moral of the story is, don't trust Drosophila company. They give less fruit flies then they promise. He'll switch up order agreements with you, and after sending the package may ask you to do the work to intercept the package show you can get it when you're supposed to. He'll admit to when he's overcharged or undercharged(Not that he'll admit to giving 1/4th the fruit flies you order), but will try to make you take supplies instead of money, will promise money is on the way when it's not(He had told both my employee and I he had a $25 check already sent in the mail long before we had realized he would argue to the death and never do what is right), and he will just generally rip you off.

If you're a satisfied customer, you probably just got ripped off but didn't realize. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I've talked to who has ordered flies through them all say the received at most half of what they were supposed to give and 100% of the time says "I'll double, or triple them up in cups to save you on shipping.

This guy will also tell you he gaurantees live orders, and guarantees this and that, but when problems arrise, he doesn't back up ANYTHING he promised. He is a thief, a liar, and argumentative. He still owes us money, and should not be done business with AT ALL.

He also likes to :censored:talk his competitors to a rude, unjustified amount, just to talk you into believing he's the only trust worthy source for flies around. DO NOT BUY IT!!

Ok, I'm done. But Drosophila company is full of it, and NO ONE I've talked to is 100% satisfied, and I'm still fuming about him ripping us off at a time we were desperate for fruit flies. What a jerk!

Any of this look familiar? I've sent the poster a PM, inviting him to come and post any corroborating correspondence.
 
WOW i just read thru this thead and can honestly say im scratching him off my list. Pretty crappy customer service it looks like and seems he always blaming the customer when its plainly his fault.
 
Concerning Nobodys Hero

The matter was brought to the attention of PayPal and the dispute was graanted in our favor. Contrary to what you may have read, the writer fails to mention that we shipped him at his request overnight. With a signature required for receipt. None was there as he was "out of town " knowing full well that a shipment had arrived the next day. Finally after several hours of not even knowing where the shipment was , it was picked up by one of his employee's. I dont know what the disposition of the flies were after being in that Arizona heat or where the box was . I do know the obligation is to pick up the shipment when it arrives... I had sent him the tracking information a day earlier , so that was not an issue. I sent him the cultures on time and there were more than enough flies, that was not an issue. What was an issue was that he was not only looking for a complete replacement, but he wanted the items reshipped overnight at our expense. That I will not do !

All he had to do was to pick up the box or have his people pick up the box. Neither was done. I cannot at this point tell you what time the box was signed for, but when a signature is required, its the oblligation to be there to sign for and accept the package...

He filed a complaint with a day or 2 later and we responded , provided all the emails, the shipping bill of lading, and his reply emails indicationg that he was in fact out of town . PayPal declined his request for a refund, and that was the end of it as far as we were concerned... Until this thread . Much of the information is fabrication and guaranteed PayPal would not be so quick to resolve the matter in our favor had we been in the wrong...

Our policy is simple (unless otherwise stated) When a signature is required for drop off. BE THERE or have someone accept the package... That will assure the items was sent and received on time. The flies arrived at noon, and was not picked up until almost 5 hours later. That was by his employee knowing full well that a shipment was on route. With tracking in advance.

Had it been reptiles or amphibians, and a loss incurred because the consignee was out of town knowing full well that a shipment was on route without anyone signing and acecpting the package, the results would be the same... As a point of information, I had no conversation with this person at all. Either prior to or after the incident. His employee did call me as I wanted to know and found out then that he was out of town. His emails corroborate that fact and PayPal knew it as well..... Enough said on this matter..
 
One final note with this customer

What he neglected to mention,. In the box were drygoods that were ordered for mite control. He had a very bad mite infestation problem. that he received from another supplier. That is why the order for flies was placed with us. If the solutions that we provided did not work , the infestation was to great and more than likely was greater on the outside of the cultures as mites migrate.. The answer is to isolate any new cultures in a different room, etc. The chemicals work fine, the mites were to overwhelming. The ones he contracted were grain mites. Large and would propagate substantially.

When the complaint was filed, he requested a full refund, including the drgoods that he already had received! This really was not about a replacement. We became the recipient of a problem that we did not create. His frustrations and anger , with the loss of money just turned toward us. The whole situation was fabtricated especially when he filed his complaint with PayPal. To the best of my recollection, it was his employee who filed the complaint because HE was still out of town during this whole incident... Thats the story... Not to mention this is something that happened quite sometime ago or I would have addressed it earlier had I known about it..
 
Addressing cerastes89

This is the first I have heard of this situation. Our geckos are high ended Nephrurus, Pachydactylus and some other hard to get geckos. All are captive bred. These were purchased from a variety of very reputable dealers in the trade . We are ourselves were breeders. I dont nor never have used any subterfuge to sell any gecko.

I can tell you that whatever was sold was c.b. and in this case it apparently was a wheeleri young male or female. Not sure. If this animal died in 5 days with out any notification to us, i find that rather unusual.

We have never had any complaint on the geckos we sell. Although I had to sell off my entire collection, everyone was more than satisfied with there purchase or the BOI would have a field day as it was with The Siegel episode. I cannot explain why someone would not make contact if in fact it did die that quickly. Young wheeleri's need to be accllimated and secure. Its not uncommon until they are secure to stop eating from all the shipping an new home acclimations... I have no idea how this person kept his gecko or possibly may have caused a stressful situation to have it die as it did...

CB geckos are usually clean from parasites, fairly easy to maintain, but do have some additional requirements. Sorry for his loss, but this thread , now being brought to my attention would have been addressed better had he contacted me directly instead of posting this with several months in delay...
 
Jerry
Please call me. Your phone number we had for you was disconnected and I left a message on your 800 number. We would like to be paid for our monkey tail skink that we allowed you to take with a $100 deposit on good faith. The animal was lost well out of our guarantee period and you never contacted us regarding this issue.
Ben Siegel
If this animal died in 5 days with out any notification to us, i find that rather unusual.

Sweet irony.
 
Lucille

Why am i surprised. I figured it would be a question of time before you would raise your ugly head to contribute nothing but flame an incident that i responded to as I just found out about .

For your information what may put this to bed is that Siegel was notified within his guarantee period by myself. Contrary to what he remembers his guarantee was 14 days not seven . This is not heresay on my part as I had taken the guarantee off his website well before his roach ordeal...

I am not looking to or intend on arguing this with you or anyone else. I am ientitled to a replacement. That was my argument, I notified them 12 days after the animal died. I also know I spoke to one of his employee's prior to that as well... Lets put this to rest. If you have nothing worthy

to contribute, other than some smart ass remark, please refrain.. The information that I provided relating to the 2 threds were nothing but an accurate account of what transpired.. If you seem to have a problem with my replies, go to the ones who started this and ask them questions if you are so concerned.... You are nothing but a trouble maker and as you have done in the past, your contributions to this site reflect the worst in fairness when dealing with these issues.... All youdo is hunt for little things from previous posts and exploit them to flame an issue not worthy of discussion...
 
. Sorry for his loss, but this thread , now being brought to my attention would have been addressed better had he contacted me directly instead of posting this with several months in delay...

Indeed, we've all seen how you completely respect and take care of customers that have problems with your wares. In fact, ALL those threads and unsatisfied people have got to be either lying or just making it up to make you look bad. How could anyone REALLY treat their customers as badly as you have been made out to treat them? How could such a person, as you have been so falsely accused of being, even dare to show their virtual face here after saying such mean and untrue things for all to see and remember in your, er their, defense? Why the sheer gall of one guilty of such, as you have so often been accused and occasionally proven complicit in, would render the average man unable to type for having to use both hands to keep his bloated overly hugemongus head from falling on the keyboard obliterating any chance of denying such heinous accusations and blatant, even though proof was provided more than once, lies about the character of such a man as you, mr. tresser.

How indeed could such a man, no doubt brave and well-nigh heroic in his standing up for his rights, come right out in public and say it just ain't so and not only that, but expect anyone, anyone at all, to believe you, er him, after time after time and person after person has posted proof after proof?

I'm stumped, mr. tresser, stumped indeed. Could you possibly take some time out of your busy busy day and explain how it is that you, er this man, can live by such a double standard?
 
Wes, this reply is ludicrous. Not worthy of any further explanation. I thought I gave an explanation which was far more accurate in attempting to provide the actual difficulties in the transactions.

It seems a book is necessary for some people like Lucille and others who have no herps of there own but find it necessary to scour this website and find reasons to belittle, ridicule, or just poke holes into any explanation that one may provide. This is where they seem to get there strength in forums such as this. All they do is feed off of your reply.

Not to sure what your beef is, as I just replied to two threads that came to my attention . this business is difficult enough without the Lucilles of the world ALWAYS getting involved, dont add your name to the list as there is no need for it.

If there is a problem with a sale, then , it happens . Does not mean anyone is a bad guy, but I dont need to be hammered about the few unsatisfied customers who seem to delay there complaints for several months and then join in some band wagon. There are plenty that have been more than pleased with our service. . Unless Lucille has anything else to contribute. Which would not surprise me. Your response will be taken with a grain of salt unless you want to become more specific and then I will be more than happy to accommodate you. Please make the contributon worthy of a response.
 

Nice try at deflecting your smarmy business practice and poor customer service, Jerry. The BOI was meant for members of this community to give their opinion on business practices, and your own miserable business practice needs to be addressed before more people suffer by their dealings with you.

You are trying to get people to look away from you so you do not have to explain the many poor dealings you have had. The readers here are not so easily deflected, Jerry.
 
It seems a book is necessary for some people like Lucille and others who have no herps of there own but find it necessary to scour this website and find reasons to belittle, ridicule, or just poke holes into any explanation that a liar and thief may provide.

I fixed this for you Jerry. There are reasons people receive extra attention. There are reasons why you receive special attention. I think it's nothing more than a full cycle of what you have done onto others. Watching people like you burn gives me hope for the hobby.

It's very ironic that you refer to yourself as the "Lord of the Flies." You remind me a lot of Jack.
 
I am not looking to or intend on arguing this with you or anyone else. I am ientitled to a replacement. That was my argument, I notified them 12 days after the animal died. I also know I spoke to one of his employee's prior to that as well..
You were entitled to a replacement?! Are you now not happy enough with having stolen the lizard for 1/10 of its asking price? Angling for yet another free lizard to replace the nearly-free "dead" one? It wouldn't surprise me if you were conniving in that direction.
All youdo is hunt for little things from previous posts and exploit them to flame an issue not worthy of discussion...
Well, I suppose that if you don't want those yellow-stained sheets to be put out flapping in the wind for all to see, you might want to make a more conscious effort to not wet the bed in the first place. It's a matter of causality.
It seems a book is necessary for some people like Lucille and others who have no herps of there own but find it necessary to scour this website and find reasons to belittle, ridicule, or just poke holes into any explanation that one may provide.
A former cop with such a contemptuous view of those who'd put investigative acumen to use serving the greater good? Seems a bit conflicted. With that mentality, I'd have to assume that you were as inept and self-serving with your police service as you are with your customer service.
If there is a problem with a sale, then , it happens . Does not mean anyone is a bad guy, but I dont need to be hammered about the few unsatisfied customers who seem to delay there complaints for several months and then join in some band wagon.
Well, aside from what you pulled with Siegel, there's more than enough information in these threads to show that you are indeed a Bad Guy. It's not the mistakes that make you bad, it's your refusal to take responsibility for them, as well as your blithe willingness to make your customers suffer for your own inadequacy. A Good Guy doesn't actively look for whimsical and petty reasons to tell a wronged customer to piss off.
 
I'm not sure if Jerry is actually crazy enough to think that anyone believes him, or if he's just trolling. My instinct would be that nobody could act the way he does and still believe their own innocence, but this is how he acted from the start. I don't think I've ever seen anyone act as twisted and self righteous as he does on the BOI.
 
Wow Jerry.....you should learn to read your posts before submitting them if you can't keep your story straight.

All he had to do was to pick up the box or have his people pick up the box. Neither was done. I cannot at this point tell you what time the box was signed for, but when a signature is required, its the oblligation to be there to sign for and accept the package...

He filed a complaint with a day or 2 later and we responded , provided all the emails, the shipping bill of lading, and his reply emails indicationg that he was in fact out of town . PayPal declined his request for a refund, and that was the end of it as far as we were concerned... Until this thread . Much of the information is fabrication and guaranteed PayPal would not be so quick to resolve the matter in our favor had we been in the wrong...

Our policy is simple (unless otherwise stated) When a signature is required for drop off. BE THERE or have someone accept the package... That will assure the items was sent and received on time. The flies arrived at noon, and was not picked up until almost 5 hours later. That was by his employee knowing full well that a shipment was on route. With tracking in advance.

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What he neglected to mention,. In the box were drygoods that were ordered for mite control. He had a very bad mite infestation problem. that he received from another supplier. That is why the order for flies was placed with us. If the solutions that we provided did not work , the infestation was to great and more than likely was greater on the outside of the cultures as mites migrate.. The answer is to isolate any new cultures in a different room, etc. The chemicals work fine, the mites were to overwhelming. The ones he contracted were grain mites. Large and would propagate substantially.
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Is it common practice to package insecticides with feeder insects?

He thinks you're a BUM Jerry... A bottom feeder. I do too, anybody else?

I will raise my hand to this...




This is the first I have heard of this situation. Our geckos are high ended Nephrurus, Pachydactylus and some other hard to get geckos. All are captive bred. These were purchased from a variety of very reputable dealers in the trade . We are ourselves were breeders. I dont nor never have used any subterfuge to sell any gecko.

I think you mean stolen.....
 
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