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Joe Haggard aka joepythons ALL BAD

Disagree all you want but I have a notion you would not be happy with some twit telling stories about you that are entirely untrue.
 
correction

NEWReptiles said:
You show me where I stated I was shipped a rock you little prick.........


Lets go, verify the info you horses ass..................


I'm glad I took a peek at fauna today, just glad that it was brought to my attention that you were running your mouth when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Well if Andre was smart enough to forward you the info i resent him i stated i had you crossed with someone else that involved a rock.Is that the pet names you say to Andre your underage puppet :rofl: :rofl: .
 
thanks

Ed Clark said:
Al, sorry but I have to disagree with your thread title. I did a deal with Joe a couple weeks ago and it went smoothly. he paid promptly and it was a good transaction. I dont know how you could label a guy all bad with a good transaction like that?
Ed, i thank you.I think Al is upset because everyone is shutting Andre down from selling those 2 sick snakes.Its funny the ONLY ones throwing a fit about Andre getting exposed is Al & Andre :rolleyes: .Where is that KIDS parents? I know where one of them is ,he is in a treatment place! I wonder what type it is now? Just so you know this info is a fact that come from Andre himself!
 
Sorry Joe, but what set me off was your idle threat and the fact that you were flappin your jaw about ME. Somebody you do not know......................

And it only males sense that Ed pops in to disagree as he was just on my classifieds posting pics of his own animals.....kinda tacky!
 
I too can back Joe up on smooth, great, and complete transactions in the past. He is a very truthful and great guy. I too would like to know how this guy is "bad" when I've never heard anything "bad" about him... till well now on this thread that I can't believe....

Al, have you ever dealt with Joe with buying from or selling to him? I know plenty of people who have, and I've never heard anything but good things about him.
 
threat?

NEWReptiles said:
Sorry Joe, but what set me off was your idle threat and the fact that you were flappin your jaw about ME. Somebody you do not know......................

And it only males sense that Ed pops in to disagree as he was just on my classifieds posting pics of his own animals.....kinda tacky!
Seems like you misread my pm i NEVER made a threat and i noted that.I guess you are so steamed up about Andre you are unable to read.
 
lol

lillyorchid said:
I too can back Joe up on smooth, great, and complete transactions in the past. He is a very truthful and great guy. I too would like to know how this guy is "bad" when I've never heard anything "bad" about him... till well now on this thread that I can't believe....

Al, have you ever dealt with Joe with buying from or selling to him? I know plenty of people who have, and I've never heard anything but good things about him.
Allison,you better watch it or Al will create a bad women post on you :rolleyes: :rofl:
 
I am the one Joe tried to contact. Go out for a little while and the shit hits the fan. :angry:

Joe, Joe, Joe. :rolleyes:

I have told you how many times now that the deal with Al and the "other deal" were different? You keep confusing the two and now look what happened.

I did not get the rock. The person I did the other deal with got sent a rock by the guy who he made a transaction with before me. That is how we ended up getting in touch in the first place. He got shipped a rock by someone I was considering a trade deal with and we started corresponding. He ended up wanting an animal I had listed. That was not the deal with Al.

Didn't I have to send Andre a PM to straighten out the confusion once already when you sent him a PM about him making a deal with Al and you got my screwy one confused with the one I had with Al?

Regarding the spider. I was concerned that the spider I got from Al was not eating. I told you that and I also told Al that which he can confirm. I told him she had refused food and asked what she was eating while she was with him just in case I was offering something she was not used to. She eats fine now but I was anxious since she was little, expensive, and had refused meals. I guess, in hindsight, I should have informed you that she finally ate for me and is now eating regularly. I did not realize this was all going on behind the scenes.

Many times now I have had to clear crap up after the fact, and now, once again dammit, I have to do it all over again.
 
Are you kidding me? I think a couple folks here owe Al an apology and really need to learn a to learn a thing or two about life and being decent human beings.
 
Steve, I will offer up my sincere apologies again on the delay with your animal and will still refund you in full + if you are not satisfied with her. Many times when smaller animals are shipped they can be knocked off feed and I think that is what happened in this case.

Sorry if you were caught off guard and I may have been out of line but I will never tolerate another belittling my animals or their care.
 
NEWReptiles said:
Sorry Joe, but what set me off was your idle threat and the fact that you were flappin your jaw about ME. Somebody you do not know......................

And it only males sense that Ed pops in to disagree as he was just on my classifieds posting pics of his own animals.....kinda tacky!
Al, just trying to have a little fun with you. you posted a pic of a average at best spider ball and called it the BEST spider ball ever. false advertising in my eyes, and I posted 2 of my average spiders that blew yours out of the water. Big mistake on my part to do that, and I told you so and said Im sorry. I thought you were a big enought man to accept that. I was wrong.

Once again Al I was wrong to post a pic on your ad and am sorry about it, can you accept this?
 
Al, just trying to have a little fun with you. you posted a pic of a average at best spider ball and called it the BEST spider ball ever. false advertising in my eyes, and I posted 2 of my average spiders that blew yours out of the water

Sorry Ed, its the only way I can advertise my sub-par animals...................................................................
 
ok

SPJ said:
I am the one Joe tried to contact. Go out for a little while and the shit hits the fan. :angry:

Joe, Joe, Joe. :rolleyes:

I have told you how many times now that the deal with Al and the "other deal" were different? You keep confusing the two and now look what happened.

I did not get the rock. The person I did the other deal with got sent a rock by the guy who he made a transaction with before me. That is how we ended up getting in touch in the first place. He got shipped a rock by someone I was considering a trade deal with and we started corresponding. He ended up wanting an animal I had listed. That was not the deal with Al.

Didn't I have to send Andre a PM to straighten out the confusion once already when you sent him a PM about him making a deal with Al and you got my screwy one confused with the one I had with Al?

Regarding the spider. I was concerned that the spider I got from Al was not eating. I told you that and I also told Al that which he can confirm. I told him she had refused food and asked what she was eating while she was with him just in case I was offering something she was not used to. She eats fine now but I was anxious since she was little, expensive, and had refused meals. I guess, in hindsight, I should have informed you that she finally ate for me and is now eating regularly. I did not realize this was all going on behind the scenes.

Many times now I have had to clear crap up after the fact, and now, once again dammit, I have to do it all over again.
Steve,ok i am sorry.Al i am sorry for everything i have said today and in the past.
 
You know Ed, when you posted those pics in his for sale thread and then apologized. I really thought you were sincere, but the following quote blows that out of the water.

Ed Clark said:
you posted a pic of a average at best spider ball and called it the BEST spider ball ever. false advertising in my eyes, and I posted 2 of my average spiders that blew yours out of the water.

I guess it says alot about you. I looked at the pics of his spider and the only thing sub-par was the picture itself(sorry Al, LOL). The spider was quite a nice looking animal and the pic is still in the ad if anyone else cares to look at it.

Really disappointing. :NoNo:
 
Good call Bill, you beat me to the punch.
 
NEWReptiles said:
Steve, I will offer up my sincere apologies again on the delay with your animal and will still refund you in full + if you are not satisfied with her. Many times when smaller animals are shipped they can be knocked off feed and I think that is what happened in this case.

Sorry if you were caught off guard and I may have been out of line but I will never tolerate another belittling my animals or their care.

She stays here. :thumbsup:
I got worried because she was tiny and had refused a few meals on me. Spiders are supposed to be excellent feeders so it threw me.
Now that she is settled in, she eats fine. Just took her a bit longer that I had anticipated.
As far as how long the transaction took, that's a mute point as far as I am concerned.


For the record.

So I don't need to go thru this again.

The female I got from Al would not eat for me for the first few weeks (hence Joe thinking Al sells non feeders). I contacted Al and informed him. I also expressed my concern with Joe. I persisted in offering food. She finally settled in and is eating fine now. I am not sure if I sent you an update Al, I think I did, but I don't remember but you would have heard from me if she was still not eating today. I know I never updated Joe. I should have.

I sold a female to a guy who I got in contact with because he had done a trade deal with someone I was considering doing a trade deal with. He shipped his animal and received a rock in return. That made me decide against doing my trade. Later on I posted an animal. The "rock recipient" contacted me and we set a price and delivery date. That deal went "unsmoothly". I do not want to go into the details here but this transaction took place during the period that the spider was not feeding.

I was frustrated. A decent amount was spent on a spider that was not eating for me and I shipped an animal out and then did not have the payment for her anymore.

Joe,
Last time. You really do think you are trying to help people and I think you are sincere in that regard but stop confusing different deals and using that as a basis to "help" someone.
 
joepythons said:
Steve,ok i am sorry.Al i am sorry for everything i have said today and in the past.

I know you are trying to look out for Andre. You don't want to see someone get ripped off.
I know you were upset I my spider wasn't feeding and I took a bath on the that other deal.

Just PLEASE, before you send a warning to someone, check with the rest of us first.

Now if you call me rock boy again, I am flying out to Illinios to see you. :rofl:
I did not get sent the rock! :ack2:
 
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