Josh Sharp - [email protected] - Terrible Cage - One to Avoid

[John E Dove]

I would be very tempted to contact him had he made good on the bad cages he has already sold.
I'm just cautious enough though that he would have to ship and allow me to inspect the product before I would pay for it.

 

[SPJ]

Josh,
You are a thief and a liar.
How dare you claim that I am the only one complaining about your crappy cage and that you are making it better. You had your chance. Now give me my money back. You owe me for the time I put into this piece of junk, the aggravation of dealing with this piece of crap (and you) and the supplies I had to buy. And it is STILL not useable yet.
You also owe Tracy for the piece of junk you sent her.
How many others have you taken money from for these crap cages?

Grow a pair of balls and post here. You won't because you are just scum.

Look what this scumbag wrote as a respone to what Dennis posted.

ASK SELLER A QUESTION
Question Buyer Beware- please read this thread. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105856 This seller has been also kicked off ebay for the horrible product he will send you.
Answer ALL SAID BY ONE PERSON, MAKING IT BETTER.

Making it better would be refunding what you stole from people.

I'm done with you. The credit card company will deal with you now.

 

[critical bill]

I don't think this is funny at all, but I just got a vision of what the look on Steve's face must have been when he opened that email from Josh requesting his address again. Then I recalled a video clip I once saw a while back of some frustrated computer guy beating the crap out his monitor with his keyboard and I nearly split my sides.

 

[SPJ]

Figured I'd post an update.

Paypal will not allow me to make the claim. They refuse to reopen the dispute so I am out of luck there.
The bank will not help since even though I paid thru paypal as a Visa, it is really my Visa debit card and I have no protection.
Josh has disapeared. No ads on KS, Ebay, Reptile Auction, or anywhere else and he never sent me the replacement parts he promised.

So....as it stands right now, I am out the money spent on the cage and shipping costs, the money for new doors, money to buy dremel bits and screws to fix this, and a bunch of time and effort.

This now makes 2 cages bought from 2 different people with the same results.

Screwed over.

Hope you enjoy the money you ripped me off for Josh!

 

[critical bill]

Steve, why don't you contact his local Police dept./Internet crimes division to explain the situation? He might have a few complaints against him or may already be a person of interest to them.

Sorry to see it happen to you..again.

 

[E2MacPets]

Steve, try going higher up with your bank, I think debit or credit, the visa protection should apply. That's the incentive for using that card, isn't it?


Maybe you need to just start building these damn things yourself... we could use someone honest in the business...

 

[kmurphy]

Steve, try going higher up with your bank, I think debit or credit, the visa protection should apply. That's the incentive for using that card, isn't it?

There is little protection with a debit card. The reason the visa logo is on the card is so that retailers can honor it wherever visa is accepted regardless of whether they were set up to accept debit cards or not. Also there wouldn't be a system available to check to see if there were sufficient funds in your account without visa/mastercard.

 

[E2MacPets]

Yeah I'm reading Visa's website now. They do offer fraud protection on debit cards, though. Zero liability. But I don't see anything about dispute resolution for merchandise.

 

[SPJ]

Maybe you need to just start building these damn things yourself...

I should.
I have no problems when I order racks so I guess the animals are destined to stay in tubs.
The last 2 cage orders went bad.................I don't think I want to try for a third one.

 

[SPJ]

Once again, Paypal has shown they don't care about the people who get burnt using their service.

They STILL refuse to help.
It's OK with them for someone to take your money and give you garbage as long as they actually sent you that garbage.


From Paypal:

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:05:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: [email protected] Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "Steve Jordanides" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Disputes (Routing Code: C840-L001-T13021-S111-W00L000) NR (KMM19030875I96L0KM) pk1

Dear Steve Jordanides,

Thank you for contacting PayPal.

The seller has provided valid tracking information for the dispute you
are in regards to.

Please be advised that you will need to contact the seller for further
information regarding your case.

We value your business and regret that you have had this experience. To

avoid similar experiences in the future, we recommend that you read our

Buyer Complaint Policy at https://www.paypal.com/bcp or copy and paste
the entire link into the address bar.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Sincerely,
Tricia
Protection Services Department
PayPal, an eBay Company

My response:

Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:42:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "Steve Jordanides" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Disputes (Routing Code: C840-L001-T13021-S111-W00L000) NR (KMM19030875I96L0KM) pk1
To: [email protected]
I do not care about valid tracking numbers.
He DID NOT provide what I paid for.
This needs to be escalated. Where is my buyer protection!?

 

[SPJ]

Josh did not meet the requirements for me to get buyer protection according to the Paypal TOS.
He needed to meet this.

seller's eBay feedback rating is at least 50;
At least 98% of the seller's eBay feedback is positive;

What a load of .

 

[dsirkle]

Yeah I'm reading Visa's website now. They do offer fraud protection on debit cards, though. Zero liability. But I don't see anything about dispute resolution for merchandise.

I believe that is a requirement of law that issuers of credit cards must refund your money if you don't get what you pay for,it is not an option for them. As previously stated ,with a debit card the money is gone as soon as you make the transaction. I have gotten my money back probably about 15 times using a credit card by disputing a bad deal. As a side note I cancelled my Ebay account a couple of months ago because I just could not stomach any longer the ever increasing kneejerk policies that they come up with. I still have my Paypal account because it is so widely accepted online but would drop it in a heartbeat for an alternative. I see people on a different thread are advocating Google checkout. I notice this as an increasing commonly accepted way to pay and it has my attention.

 

[SPJ]

Paypals latest reply.

Seems they now do not know what this whole dispute is about.

Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:28:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: [email protected] Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "Steve Jordanides" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Disputes (Routing Code: C840-L001-T13021-S111-W00L000) NR NR SNAD (KMM19741234I96L0KM) pk1

Dear Steve Jordanides,

Thank you for contacting PayPal. We apologize for the delay in
responding to your service request.

Unfortunately, we are unable to determine the nature of your inquiry.
In
order to better assist you, we need you to provide us with the buyer
/seller's email address, along with a case number or other pertinent
information pertaining to this case. We do apologize for any
inconvenience.

Thank you for your cooperation and we look forward to your reply.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us
again.

Sincerely,
Flora
Protection Services Department
PayPal, an eBay Company

Original Message Follows:
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So........Paypal collects their fee, the seller takes my money, and I
get NO HELP?
Where is the buyer protection for using your service!!!!!

[email protected] wrote:
Dear Steve Jordanides,

Thank you for contacting PayPal.

PayPal understands your concern and desire to resolve the dispute in
question. However, once a Buyer Complaint claim has been canceled, it
is
considered resolved and cannot be reopened.

Should you have the need to file another claim in the future, we
suggest
that you do not cancel the claim until you have received the
merchandise
or a refund.

We encourage you to continue to work with the seller for a mutual
resolution. You may also wish to seek other avenues of resolution such
as an auction website if one was used to conduct this transaction. We
value your business and regret that you have had this experience. To
avoid similar experiences in the future, visit the PayPal Security
Center by clicking the "Security Center" link in the upper right-hand
corner of any PayPal webpage.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Sincerely,
Chris
Protection Services Department
PayPal, an eBay Company

Original Message Follows:
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I do not care about valid tracking numbers.
He DID NOT provide what I paid for.
This needs to be escalated. Where is my buyer protection!?


[email protected] wrote:
Dear Steve Jordanides,

Thank you for contacting PayPal.

The seller has provided valid tracking information for the dispute you
are in regards to.

Please be advised that you will need to contact the seller for further
information regarding your case.

We value your business and regret that you have had this experience. To

avoid similar experiences in the future, we recommend that you read our

Buyer Complaint Policy at https://www.paypal.com/bcp or copy and paste
the entire link into the address bar.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Sincerely,
Tricia
Protection Services Department
PayPal, an eBay Company

Original Message Follows:
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Form Message
customer subject: Never got what was paid for
customer message: Additional Information: 'The case below was closed
when he provided a tracking number. Big mistake. I never got what I
paid
for. I am demanding a refund from him.

Non-receipt - Case ID: PP-###-###-###
Dispute Closed: ##/##/#### ##:## PDTLearn more
Transaction ID: ##V#####L#######K
Seller Name & Email: josh sharp, mushu####@aol.com
Transaction Amount: -$###.## USD
Transaction Date: ##/##/#### ##:## PDT'

 

[SPJ]

Heads up in case anyone sees one of these cages for sale anywhere and the seller has a different name.

[email protected] wrote:
Hey Steve, I see you did quite a number on me there. I'm going to have to change my name.

 

[critical bill]

Dear Santa,

I left something important off my list. Please wrap mushu1432 in a small box and mail his sorry ass to Steve.

Thanks,
Chuck

 

[fhayden1]

Sorry you had to go through that. That's horrible.

Frank

 

[SPJ]

Dear Santa,

I left something important off my list. Please wrap mushu1432 in a small box and mail his sorry ass to Steve.

Thanks,
Chuck

I only need him for 5 minutes then Santa can gather him back up and ship his ass off.

 

[patfusster]

Bad cage deal...

Josh,
You are a thief and a liar.
How dare you claim that I am the only one complaining about your crappy cage and that you are making it better. You had your chance. Now give me my money back. You owe me for the time I put into this piece of junk, the aggravation of dealing with this piece of crap (and you) and the supplies I had to buy. And it is STILL not useable yet.
You also owe Tracy for the piece of junk you sent her.
How many others have you taken money from for these crap cages?

Grow a pair of balls and post here. You won't because you are just scum.

Look what this scumbag wrote as a respone to what Dennis posted.



Making it better would be refunding what you stole from people.

I'm done with you. The credit card company will deal with you now.

Josh,

Hi again, I have my own user name now, yeah me... By the way thanx for backing me up. I wish you could have done more thru Paypal. Heck I did it the right way and I'm still out money. I had to ship the cage back, $50, and I "may" get a full refund minus shipping cost.

Basically I'll be out money and have no cage. I hope they at least give me my money back before Christmas. That is the buyer beware you always hear about. Paypal does get you coming and going. The kicker will be if they taske a fee out of the refund . I should know more after tomorrow that is when he is due to receive the shipment.

Thanx again
Tracy

 

[patfusster]

Wishful thinkin'

I would be very tempted to contact him had he made good on the bad cages he has already sold.
I'm just cautious enough though that he would have to ship and allow me to inspect the product before I would pay for it.

Honestly, that sounds good and all but that would never happen. I don't think any seller in their right mind would ship something for a customer to inspect unless it wasn't worth anything to begin with. Even this jerk.

That said Josh seems disillusioned with his products, that they are better than his "competitor " Vision Cages. Maybe he would...

Tracy

 

[SPJ]

New name.
Same cages.
You STILL owe me for the last POS Josh!!!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Plastic-Cag...yZ121854QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem