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Jungle Exotics. New Jersey

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They have pretty competitive prices. Has anyone done business with them? Has anyone stopped by their store? Their address is:

14 Hilliard Avenue Edgewater, NJ 07020 Phone: 201.840-6228 Fax: 201.641.9697 [email protected]

Thanks in advance.

Daniel
 
Daniel,

Here is my experience with them. Last year They placed a wholesale order with me. They received the shipment (which was sent to be billed to them for the shipping) and were very happy with the animals when they received them. About 3 weeks later I get notified that they would not pay for the shipping, and had the charges reversed. Then when I contact them about the shipping charges they owe me they state that the animals arrived in poor condition and that most of them perished a while after they arrived. Well this was not what they said when they received the animals and personally is not a way to do buisness. I later confronted them again about the money they owe for shipping and told them I would let everyone know about them in any way I could and they then threatened me with legal action. I know I won't ever sell to or purchase from them but then again that is just me. Anyone that pulls that kind of stunt does not deserve my animals nor my money.
 
Thanks for your input Rob.

Regards,

Daniel
 
A little off topic

Hi,

I never post on these threads, but i have to say i love your quote


("You must be the change you wish to see in the world"

Gandhi)


Everyone should try to understand this quote!! Hey it might even help some people that post or are posted about on here lol


Thanks (and sorry for being off topic)
Jonathan Dvoretz
 
Well, I know Joe personally. I have been to his store hundreds of times and actually helped him set it up when he moved to Edgewater. Joe is a good guy who takes great care of his animals. He is a petstore and has to compete with the big dogs like Petco in the second most populated area of the US. His customers keep coming back because they can't get the type of personalized service he gives at some huge pet franchise. I say trust Joe.. he is a great guy and a personal friend....

and tell him charles says Hi... I gotta give him a ring
 
Jungle Exotics is the most mite infested place that I have ever
seen. Joey is the most shady guy in the business. I remember being there once and seeing snake under fed, mites, cages full of crap, and not to mention the Bull $h!T customer service he has working for him. They do not know what they are talking about period. He may be good with fish tank setups but with reptiles I give a big thumbs down, and I mean way down.

The not paying for shipping part, is just the way this guy does business. I bet those animals arrived fine, and his cheap a@@ did not want to pay shipping. Charles E, I am suprised that you would stick up for Joey. Why don't you take one of your most expensive Suri's and let him hang on to it for a month or so. It would come back to you mite infested and in bad condition. If you want to stick up for a bad guy, remind me to never purchase from you either. Your about as dishonest as he is.

His vision cages are in bad shape. Some of the heat shrouds are actually dripping hot plastic because of the insane high power heat bulbs he uses in these cages.

I am going to his store on a suprise visit one day, and I will take pics of the poor conditions he provides for his reptiles.
 
I helped set up Joe's Edgewater shop two years ago and it was as clean as a whistle. I have since moved out of the area and have not seen the place in 2 years, so I can only comment on what I know from the past. Joe is one of the nicest guys I ever met, I am surprised you are calling him shady. Oh well.. everybody has their own opinion... that's your god given right, but as they say a picture is worth a thousand words. Save your insults for somebody else, I have a great reputation and don't need some clown who does not know me to slander it.
 
Easy on the caffeine guys!!! It's not worth to start an argument on just an inquiry. At this point I already have my answer.

Thank you all.

Regards :)
 
Charles, two years is a fact that would most likely have been better mentioned than not when recommending someone and his business. It may well have been a great place. It may well now be as mite infested as has been suggested. Two years is a LONG time. I am in no way disparraging you or your relationship with Joe. But when you recommended him I thought that you had been contact with him recently, after all saying you have been there hundreds of times and not saying that the last time was two years ago........well it's not real credible in relation to how valuable your opinion really is in this particular instance. I don't think you were trying to mislead anyone, just recommend a friend. People change. Just look at some of the nose dives we've seen here that happened in far less than two years. Time is an important factor in any good guy recommendation.

Wes Pollock
 
Charles,

I am a clown you say. Someone inquired about Joey and I gave
them my own visual truth about what flop house of a store he has. If memory serves correct, his store at Fort Lee was a horror show. Dead lizards and snakes, snakes with brutal burns, nose rub to the point where python heat vents were not present. Iguanas in dogs cages, mites - mites - mites. If you helped him move didn't you recall seeing this mess, or did it just happen to be clean because you were there.

The new store was probably clean before his mite infested business moved in. I bought boas from that guy and both of them died. Cause of death resp infection.

As far as your reputation goes I would not buy from you for 1 minute with a misrepresenting someone who sells animals that are not healthy. I hope tou reputation was not built on this business practice. The only thing that I can see your good at is being childish and you take good photos. Your in no way professional, and you have a smart a## mouth.

Good luck with your BCC breeing. Your gonna need it.

Peace FUBU
 
You know, I never even realized when I left the snake house and entered the chimp house. Good thing you wanna be silverbacks are thumping your chests so loud, it clued me right in that it was time to move on. Come on guys, lighten up a little.

Wes Pollock
 
Charles E, I am suprised that you would stick up for Joey. Why don't you take one of your most expensive Suri's and let him hang on to it for a month or so. It would come back to you mite infested and in bad condition. If you want to stick up for a bad guy, remind me to never purchase from you either. Your about as dishonest as he is.
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Sean,
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but by your above quote...who's picking a fight with who ???

It was nice of you to add your input to this thread as I'm sure Daniel appreciates it.

But have you done business with Charles ??? or do you have something we should know about Charles' business practices ??

I've never purchased, dealt, or spoken with Charles...but by what I read here on the BOI...he seems to be a pretty stand up guy.

If you insist that he's a dishonest guy just because he was giving his input as you have.....then I think I'll take my chances and purchase something from him in the future if he ever has anything I'm interested in.
 
IN DEFENSE OF MYSELF

I have just recently been directed to the posts regarding my so called "shady" business tactics and less thank clean store. Sounds like "sean" if that is your real name you faceless punk, is a jealous competitor or what we call in the business a "failed" hobbyist. I invite you to come down and take pics you little worm, we have been called the best "little pet store" in Nj , not only by our loyal customers, but by major competitors as well. We have day to day care of our animals as well as duties that would NEVER allow the overlook of sick or dead animals. I have been in business for over 6 years now and doubt that i would have lasted for more than 6 months if my shop was in the shape that you say. You are a parasite sir, and i use the term "sir" very loosely. It is probobly because your mommy wont let you have a snake in your room that your upset. Not my problem. But to answer Rob at RK Reptiles post, YES, I refused to submit any more money to him after the shipment arrived . 24 Hours after the shipment arrived we lost several animals due to obvious internal parasite infestation. The he wants more be cause HE forgot to add on the shipping cost, sorry couldnt do it. And he was also right i didnt contact him regarding the dos because thats the business that we are in and these things happen , especially when you deal in imports like RK REPTILES and don't treat them for internal parasites.
As they often say in any business , "You can't please everyone", and i'm proud of the business that i have, the customers that i have and the friends that i have made. It's obvious that others feel that way as well and i thank Charles E. especially , since he has replied in defense of me without having spoken to him in over a year. (And i'll deal with YOU Charles about that later Pal!!)
There are obviously many jealous worm like parasites out there, and they are some of the same people that are ruining the pet industry for people like myself that try to be as honest as humanly possible. You are also a bad liar "sean" , NEVER would i even think of leaving dead animals in a cage even if we did have a loss of any type. And, just for the record, we all have losses Unless you are God, but then again, I'm sure he has many, many issues with me as well...
If you have had a personal problem with me, or maybe an issue with the store or our animals, then take it up with me PERSONALLY. But I doubt that you keep the courage of your convictions. Maybe a job or hobby will do you some good.
Sorry all if this sounds a bit harsh, but after breaking your butt for 9 hours a day and then seeing stuff like this, it makes you a bit defensive. I'm sure you have all had to deal with faceless accusations from jealous people whatever you do.
I do promise however, that if there were problems with our product living or non living, and it was our fault, that i would bend over backwards to make a customer or friend happy.
And , by the way, for the moron that said to Charles to "leave his Surinams with us for a month" - He HAS already , and also FYI Where do you think Charles Escoffery obtained his FIRST Suri from??!
Now, Again I apologize to all for my defensive ramblings, and thank those who have defended me.
Regards,
Joe D
JUNGLE EXOTICS
EDGEWATER, N.J.
 
By The way.. To "SEAN"

Just read another post by "Sean" ,
You say I sold you TWO snakes that died of URI's? You must be an idiot ! For someone to lose a snake (let alone 2!) shows me that you neither know how to care for anything, OR care litte enough not to approach me OR a Vet about tne problem. You see, URI"s are almost always curable with not only a vet's assistance BUT sometimes good ole fashion home treatment if it is not too far advanced. But now that i see your post, i can almost tell your story for you. ..."YOU" a little boy , who doesnt know the first thing about snake keeping, buys a snake, doesnt know what temp to keep it at, it dies cause you and your family are too cheap to take it to a vet or too embarrassed to call me. THEN, you buy another and it dies too , so who do you blame??? ME the nice guy. See , i have been breeding constrictors for many years now , and have had NO fatalities because i know what I'm doing and so do the people who LISTEN to me and our after care reccomendations. I figured as much, you are a failure at keeping herps so you blame the store instead of your self. YOU killed your animals NOt me or US, by not getting them the conditions that they need or the help that they need. I mean SHEEESH, how do you kill a Boa ??!! They are the strongest snakes that there are!
By the way, Not to knock the moderator here, you seem like a nice guy, but when people are sticking up for someone, there usually is a reason for it sir, so dont go telling Charles that just because he hasnt seen me in two years that I've all of a sudden stopped caring about my business, my animals OR my customers(The educated one's anyway). I stand by statements and stand by my store and invite anyone to come see it in person. I am not a "basement" dealer like so many. I have a store , a reputation, and a successful business. All of which I cherish.
So here's the Challenge "Sean" or whoever you are. Bring as many people as you can find who I have done wrong by, and I'll invite all who have stood by me over the years, and we'll have a beer or two and some laughs. MOSTLY at your rediculous accusations.
Once again,
In Defense
Sincerely,
Joe D'Angeli
 
By the way, Not to knock the moderator here, you seem like a nice guy, but when people are sticking up for someone, there usually is a reason for it sir, so dont go telling Charles that just because he hasnt seen me in two years that I've all of a sudden stopped caring about my business, my animals OR my customers(The educated one's anyway).
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Ummm..ok. Considering I never posted to this thread, much less read it, until just now. :rolleyes:
 
Apology to Ken

Sorry Ken,
I misread- the post, I am new here and it's a bit confusing at first. It was a senior member I thought it was a senior advisor.

Sorry Again, still flustered.
Joe D
 
Well first off Joe all the animals you received were treated for parasites and had been with us for a good while before being shipped off to you. Even though our imports are treated that is not a reason for you as the end retail seller not to have them treated or checked out by a Vet. How can you sit there and say the animals died from "obvious internal parasite infestation"? You are not a Vet and you did no test to support that statement. I am one of the few importers who does treat their animals before they are shipped out. When you received the animals they were in tip top shape and you even said so in your e-mail to me. Besides the animals were guaranteed live arrival and you received them alive and in great shape. The shipping was sent to be billed to you. Airborne said that you refused the bill and they sent it billed back to me. I contacted you regarding this and then you or your employee blew it off as it was my fault and that you would not pay it because animals supposedly died after they had arrived and been in your care. Another thing if the animals had died why was nothing said to me? You said nothing about any animals perishing until I contacted you 2 months later about the shipping bill. I believe that you were and are using that as an excuse to get away with not having to pay the $55 that you owe for the shipping. I also do not believe that the animals perished for one minute. If they had perished 24 hours after they arrived it is funny that within 48 hours after their arrival you had new pictures on your web site of Mellers and had Mellers available for sale. The Mellers Chameleon (Chamaeleo Melleri) is one species that I have had better success with than just about ANYONE in the reptile arena. It is fine though, I just wrote the shipping off my taxes last year and am not worried about it any more but will let people know about it if they ask.
 
Last reply to all this sillyness.

Rob, (RK Reptiles)
The $55.00 was not the problem, we had even taken pictures of the DOAs. And yes I am not a vet but have worked closely with TWO herp vets, am licensed by the State, USDA, USDI, CDC and federal governments as a wildlife educator.I have also worked in 3 area zoos. I am not sure , but when worms exit the doa's body(rectal vent) immediately after death, isnt that a pretty good sign of internal parasites? Maybe you should check the vet section of this site instead of wasting your time slandering others that you screw over. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and didnt ask for a replacement, but when you have the balls to ask me for more money to cover the already paid for shipment , your out of luck. By the way, You can tell whoever you want WHATEVER you want, but word to the wise, get your story, and facts straight, or you will be hearing from my lawyer in regards to a slander suit. TRUST me i have already sent notice to my attorney.
I will end this all now, This nonsense is useless , i will neither be a part of this childish "mud slinging" anymore NOR read about it.
Just wanted to set the record straight.
By the way Rob, I have and do business with many stores and wholesalers nationwide, You want to open up a can of worms? You go ahead and let me hear about you slandering my name again. Remember, Where's your store front? And I hope that your Licenses are up to date.
 
im not taking sides but

You go ahead and let me hear about you slandering my name again
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i havent seen Rob slander anything thing about you or your name buisness etc. All from what i have seen was he stated that he wasnt paid for shipping and that you had stated you were happy with the animals when he first spoke with you .Then you said they had died some time later. Well im sure Rob isnt a mind reader and if you had let him know of this he would have made some ammends to you ( not positive but pretty sure he would) But you took it upon yourself to decide that you wouldnt inform him , wouldnt pay shipping and call it even. To me thats not very good buisness. If you agree to do something IE pay shipping you should do so , if you have a problem let them know and then let them decide if they want to send you more animals ,call it even and pay shipping etc . But i think w/o proper notice Rob had no idea if the animals died none other then you haveing told him that you were happy.

I also think that with all the hostilility in your post that you may need a few days off of your 9 hr days ... If i could only work 9 hrs a day id be estatic try 12-14 + a day... then you have worked a good day
and please dont come back telling me off in a bad way as this post wasnt meant as "slander etc" just stating what i have seen transpire in this thread so far ...
have a good one
 
If you worked...

If you worked 12 -14 hrs + you wouldnt have time to post or read this nonsense, now mind your own business you moron. Probobly just another idiot working from thier basement.
Dont get in fights with people that you dont have the facts about and once again, mind your own business .
 
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