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Jungle Habitats Plastics- Alan Hall (Bad Guy)

II will call my business account manager. But he stressed never send out animals untill checks cleared.
 
goReptiles said:
It may be different in different states, in terms of business laws you're not supposed to take the money first, but in GA it's the law for any legitmate business that does business online. For the life of me I can't find a statute online. But, when you start a legitimate business, you're supposed to actually take the money once you ship out the item. When you buy items at the store they take the money when you leave with the item, so it's supposed to be the same sentiment. When my dad had his business, it was one of the statute requirements for the state.
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Well, then that's your state's law. If you make a purchase in another state (or from another state as the case would be online), that state's laws applies, not your home state.

goReptiles said:
I've noticed that the money from paypal never really processes my bank account until the shipment has been made.
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That's not exactly right. Depending upon how you pay (credit card or directly from your bank account), time frame from money being removed from your account will vary. PayPal has no way of knowing when a shipment is made unless you ship through them (USPS or UPS last time I checked).

Gary, please post what you're account manager says...I had a discussion about a year ago with my credit union about my Business Account and accepting different forms of payment and I know they told me that payment must clear before I provide product or services, otherwise I'm just setting myself up.

NOTE: None of my posts have anything to do with Alan. Just questioning inaccurate information.
 
TripleMoonsExotic said:
If you make a purchase in another state (or from another state as the case would be online), that state's laws applies, not your home state.
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Completely understandable if it's not that person's state laws. I am fully aware with doing business online, jurisdiction is mixed. From what I understand, though, if there's a complication with mixed laws and jurisdiction, the law tends to favor the purchaser rather than the seller.

Plus, I would think if accused breaking the law, then wouldn't you try to defend yourself besides quickly trying to ship the item out. Even though the item really was not shipped out. I know it doesn't take 3 weeks to ship something 2 states away even at that size. The first time it only took 1 week.

TripleMoonsExotic said:
Gary, please post what you're account manager says...I had a discussion about a year ago with my credit union about my Business Account and accepting different forms of payment and I know they told me that payment must clear before I provide product or services, otherwise I'm just setting myself up.
I am interested as well, as I was under the impression that it was across the board.

I may be misquoting the the particular GA law, but I'm still concerned as to every online purchase not using PayPal seems to be this way. "seems" being the key word- that I understand.
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You must be remembering wrong. That has never been a regulation in the state of GA (or any other state as far as I know). Business would not function if that were the case. I think it is probably opposite that you are thinking of. The bank, lawyer, or accountant probably told him to make sure that payment cleared before distributing goods or services.

Now back to the regularly scheduled program.
 
You don't have to be so rude.

Honestly, whether I'm wrong or not (I will admit if I am), it makes since to me, which doesn't matter really. It's still iffy since he seemed to have jumped on correcting the problem when that was brought up. Although, he didn't correct it.

Anyway... If I'm wrong I'm wrong and I'm sorry to bring it up, but he still did bad business, and yes if he were still doing business, I would try it a 3rd time but never with my money. Too much to risk for a rack. I'm going to AP, which is what I should have done from day 1 but didn't b/c you have to buy the tubs separate. Anyway... Everything works out for the better I guess.

I'm out.
 
goReptiles said:
He's actually breaking several laws. You're not supposed to cash checks or take money from an account until you ship out the product. When we called him on that, he quickly responded that I could get the product soon. It was still 3 weeks late and no contact within that 3 weeks.
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I think that you must be confusing checks with credit cards. It is often the case where a credit card cannot be charged until the merchandise is shipped.
 
TripleMoonsExotic said:
Well, then that's your state's law. If you make a purchase in another state (or from another state as the case would be online), that state's laws applies, not your home state.



That's not exactly right. Depending upon how you pay (credit card or directly from your bank account), time frame from money being removed from your account will vary. PayPal has no way of knowing when a shipment is made unless you ship through them (USPS or UPS last time I checked).

Gary, please post what you're account manager says...I had a discussion about a year ago with my credit union about my Business Account and accepting different forms of payment and I know they told me that payment must clear before I provide product or services, otherwise I'm just setting myself up.

NOTE: None of my posts have anything to do with Alan. Just questioning inaccurate information.
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My account manager said he has never heard of such a law and said that sending out product before a check clears can only come back to haunt you.
 
dsirkle said:
I think that you must be confusing checks with credit cards. It is often the case where a credit card cannot be charged until the merchandise is shipped.
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Show mercy Gary. She's only 20. :D
 
Just an update... Not like anyone is going to be overly shocked.. Myself included.. The wonderful gift certificate Alan issued.. Is about as worthless as a bump on a log. Anyone tried going to his website???

At least hopefully now that the site is gone, hopefully he won't be able to con anyone else out of their money. I'm just glad I got back most of money, which Unfortunately most people who've delt with Alan can say.

David
 
You'd think with all the money he had coming in, and no products being built or shipped, he could pay his bills.. Unless of course he was using the money for something else.
 
gbcop said:
Just an update... Not like anyone is going to be overly shocked.. Myself included.. The wonderful gift certificate Alan issued.. Is about as worthless as a bump on a log. Anyone tried going to his website???

At least hopefully now that the site is gone, hopefully he won't be able to con anyone else out of their money. I'm just glad I got back most of money, which Unfortunately most people who've delt with Alan can say.

David
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I am sorry... That maybe my fault. After I gave him months to fix these issues he did it to a person I know in Texas. i gave him about a month to fix the issues after that.

See I hosted all 7 of his sites. I was paid with a banner for one of the sites. The banner was not payment for the other 6. The one that was paid went past the year. I then had options as the service paid for was given.

I did not at first want to turn off his hosting as he could say he did not receive emails as his hosting was removed. I left it aslong as I could. But I had to make a choice and I turned them all off. Now no one else can send him money via my servers.

I do not agree with him doing this to anyone. I feel for you guys and wish I could do something. The best I could do was turn off his sites as we all know he is not sending out cages.........................

Gary
 
Gary O said:
I am sorry... That maybe my fault. After I gave him months to fix these issues he did it to a person I know in Texas. i gave him about a month to fix the issues after that.

See I hosted all 7 of his sites. I was paid with a banner for one of the sites. The banner was not payment for the other 6. The one that was paid went past the year. I then had options as the service paid for was given.

I did not at first want to turn off his hosting as he could say he did not receive emails as his hosting was removed. I left it aslong as I could. But I had to make a choice and I turned them all off. Now no one else can send him money via my servers.

I do not agree with him doing this to anyone. I feel for you guys and wish I could do something. The best I could do was turn off his sites as we all know he is not sending out cages.........................

Gary
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I've been in that position myself, Gary, and it's just not a real pleasant situation to have to address. And truth be known, it was one of the contributing factors that made me decide to just get out of the hosting business completely. You have to do what you have to do sometimes...
 
WebSlave said:
I've been in that position myself, Gary, and it's just not a real pleasant situation to have to address. And truth be known, it was one of the contributing factors that made me decide to just get out of the hosting business completely. You have to do what you have to do sometimes...
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Tell me about it lol. Hosting is a losing battle anyways. If you do not over sell a server and load a ton of people on it. I am not sure how to make money at it.

I think you made the right moe and I probably will be following you on that road.
 
Gary O said:
I am sorry... That maybe my fault. After I gave him months to fix these issues he did it to a person I know in Texas. i gave him about a month to fix the issues after that.

See I hosted all 7 of his sites. I was paid with a banner for one of the sites. The banner was not payment for the other 6. The one that was paid went past the year. I then had options as the service paid for was given.

I did not at first want to turn off his hosting as he could say he did not receive emails as his hosting was removed. I left it aslong as I could. But I had to make a choice and I turned them all off. Now no one else can send him money via my servers.

I do not agree with him doing this to anyone. I feel for you guys and wish I could do something. The best I could do was turn off his sites as we all know he is not sending out cages.........................

Gary
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Oh no.. This wasn't in no way shape form or fashion your fault by any stretch! Alan is a grown man and he was the one that made the decision to take the path he has chosen to follow. Not you.

Thanks Gary,

David
 
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