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Bad Guy Justin Miller, AKA Blue Pumilio

This isn't a forum war; nor are the differences between the two sites up for discussion in a BOI thread about an individual. Stop the bickering about tangent subjects.

Mr Underwood's language has been addressed with him privately
 
The rough part of this is,it wont be long before we see another bad guy boi on him.
Bad sellers keep at it when nothing is done to stop it. To bad this site doesnt keep people like him from joining this great site when its apperent he is bad business. Or boot the bad people when they do this too much on other sites. You can get banned on other sites for ripping off others.giving deformed animals and so on,with proof and then come on here and do the same thing.
For reputation purposes( probably shot) just pay the tiny refund man.
I hope you get your money back,or the very small refund you are seeking. I agree with you on not wanting to take any more females from him. If he didnt see the jaw issue,whats he gonna send the next time? As far as the color,maybe he is color blind.
 
I don't usually fall into the trap of addressing old issues when a post is reported months later - my apologies for failing to notice before submitting the above post. :blush:
 
Fangthane said:
That'd be a good way to get an infraction. Since that site doesn't require full names on posts, the OP would likely get dinged for 3rd party anonymous quotes if he posted screenshots. I learned that the hard way.
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jesus, i wonder how a normal person gets their self into a conversation with something like this, smh
 
what is was talked too about my language privately? No DB mod you just bitched about my choice of words in the forum and had not direct contact with me. DB is just a forum that protect this POS Justin Miller of Bluepumilio.com and really did nothing to help me but bitch about my use of words which is well shit so like I care or about some importers with no herp degrees doing pretty much nothing but breeding to make money and spreading Chyrid fungus. Oh I am mistaken? Ok then read this and tell me I am wrong.

http://www.newscientist.com/article...ade.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=life#.Uo1KQqXA50A


point is I tried to show people this guy is just a scammer and not a legit importer. My University looke dhim up as we were trying to get Malayan leaf frogs fro our breeding program he clearly never had or could get. All we got was stringed along for months then when we went public justin cried like a little bitch he is and I got some shit from DB about how is picky on the little shit head con artist so really I lost interest dealing with that kind of crap after trying to warn others but wait he was moving so that makes it ok? the little shit never said anything to me at the time and that is not my problem. People move so plan ahead and do not make excuses and string people along like Justin does and will continue to do so as long as people want his drop shipped animals which is what he does. If i am wrong then just ask for his papers which eh must have and does not.
This guy on top off ripping me off then is now trying to fight my bank to not refund me. that is the kind of shit kid this is and continues to be.
I tried to warn others and now see more BS from big surprise Justin Miller so done here.
I do not need to make up info on this asshole, go ahead and look it up, its all on the web or rather the lack of it. Call the state he works on and check his licenses he does not have and is now reported and dealing with that too.

Justin Miller is a scum bag and will rip you off. I have proof and will pot more when my bank is done with him so you can see that too.

Love how his little click comes here to protect him and tell us it is all ok he was just moving......you know in like april when I was dealing with him and still looks like same issues so must still be moving or big surprise he is not legit and a rip off scammer. Now sure he may have some leaves a a frog here and there but I just do not see this with anyone else ever or have ever had an issue with anyone on any of these till this little shit Justin and his make excuse after excuse attitude and then no refund and when you ask for one fi you are not nice then good luck cause apparently being upset after waiting around and being lied to does not justify you being upset at poor little Justin Miller and he can not take that kind of realness so will just stop dealing with you and then fight you tooth and nail for your money.

Seriously think I care about this beyond trying to spare at least one person from dealing with this shit and you are dreaming. Done with this BS no resolve he said she said BS. Nothing new just lots of back and forth here
 
savethetortoise said:
Im thinking of buying a couple impress torts from Justin, is he really bad? Is anyone happy with him?
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I think the function of the BOI is so people can read about other's transactions and then make up their own mind. After reading this entire thread would you feel comfortable in a transaction with him?
 
Bluepumilio.com aka con artist justin miller

Just finally got a report back from BBB. Justin never replied so he loses and also lied to my bank which is suing him as he provided false documents to try ands how he shipped but never did. I love how this POS wrote me to admite this all and did not think I woud show the bank and BBB? Just want this loser out of the trade so people do not harry to worry about this total BS.
I had never had an issue and have gotten many frogs from random people but after this never again just can not trust anyone it seems and if they do wrong then people like Justin Miller will just lie and make up shit to delay their obvious faults.

This guy had three business under his name all trying to do imports. The locals there had no verification of his import papers or that he even does that. My UC can ask this kind fo thing and has with no new info. Obvious drop shipper that gets from others and could care less and anything then money.

At least I will get back my 190$ from this little kid and do hope others find resolve with him.
I will provide any info if it helps you get your money back from him but go through your bank and the BBB.
 
Another place this guy can be reported is the Internet Crime Division at the FBI called IC3. Here is a link to there site. http://www.ic3.gov/

Update on my situation:

Here is the message I sent BBB

On Oct 23rd I ordered 3 frogs listed on the www.bluepumilio.com website for a total of $400 plus $50 for shipping. It has now been almost 2 months of getting the run around by Justin Miller the owner of Blue Pumilio. He has promised me he would ship them out "tomorrow" 3 times. Then the next day comes and I ask for shipping details or a tracking number he then sends me an email after the fact telling me he didn't ship them for XYZ reason. One reason was because one of the frogs was sick and "had an ulcer develop on it's head". At this point I am concerned with the animals health and requested pictures of the "ulcer". I received no reply to my request. He would reply to other questions and ignore the request for pictures. After it healed up he finally sent pictures of the frogs but one was upside down and not showing the head. So now I am trying to get him to send the frogs to me but he always has an excuse why it doesn't happen. I also can send you all the email correspondence and text messages that I have received from him. At this point I am fed up and just want my money back. Today 12/17/2013 I did tell him I would give him until tomorrow to ship the frogs or refund the money before I reported him to as many entities as I could find. My next step is to make a report on the FBI IC3 website. I hope you can help me as I am not the only person to have been ripped off by this guy. A simple google search will reveal many unhappy customers. I wish I had done one before sending through my money.Best Regards,Kenneth Crompton

I hope no one else has the same problems I did.
 
Yeay!Froggies! said:
Another place this guy can be reported is the Internet Crime Division at the FBI called IC3. Here is a link to there site. http://www.ic3.gov/

Update on my situation:

Here is the message I sent BBB

On Oct 23rd I ordered 3 frogs listed on the www.bluepumilio.com website for a total of $400 plus $50 for shipping. It has now been almost 2 months of getting the run around by Justin Miller the owner of Blue Pumilio. He has promised me he would ship them out "tomorrow" 3 times. Then the next day comes and I ask for shipping details or a tracking number he then sends me an email after the fact telling me he didn't ship them for XYZ reason. One reason was because one of the frogs was sick and "had an ulcer develop on it's head". At this point I am concerned with the animals health and requested pictures of the "ulcer". I received no reply to my request. He would reply to other questions and ignore the request for pictures. After it healed up he finally sent pictures of the frogs but one was upside down and not showing the head. So now I am trying to get him to send the frogs to me but he always has an excuse why it doesn't happen. I also can send you all the email correspondence and text messages that I have received from him. At this point I am fed up and just want my money back. Today 12/17/2013 I did tell him I would give him until tomorrow to ship the frogs or refund the money before I reported him to as many entities as I could find. My next step is to make a report on the FBI IC3 website. I hope you can help me as I am not the only person to have been ripped off by this guy. A simple google search will reveal many unhappy customers. I wish I had done one before sending through my money.Best Regards,Kenneth Crompton

I hope no one else has the same problems I did.
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Ken did you get your frogs or your refund?
 
An update on my problems with Justin Miller of Blue Pumilio. I have finally received my Trio of D. Tinc. Dasha. It did take 2 months and many promises that they were sent and they were not. Excuses excuses but they did finally get there and he has offered a free female at no cost to me. He has always been polite but this has been so frustrating. I hope no one else has to deal with this kind of stress.
 
Justin Miller of Bluepumilio.com

People still buying from this drop shipper? is it not obvious to you all now that this kid has nothing and drop ships all he gets yet? dude has everything but i takes months to get it or is fine or nothing ever so pretty obvious he is waiting for his importers to ship to you and has no control. so you get to wonder if they what you order is even healthy much less has any viruses and funguses from importing that is untreated by this amateur who only cares about money or he would not pull this. My bank is suing this POS for providing false info and saying he shipped then in a email to me says he did not. Justin Miller is just the kind of scum that makes getting anything online from someone you do not know scary.

Stop buying from this guy.
if you message me i will send you links to anything he can get as he is just ordering it from someone else and you are just paying more.

Justin I do hope you give this up and get a real job and life but that seems unlikely as I still see people buying leaves from this scammer.
 
Scott I must admit you were right and apologize for defending this guy, he has not changed his ways. I know of several people he has owed frogs or money to for quite a while now, and I am pretty sure they will never get either.....except another excuse as to why he did not ship.
And for those that may have put deposits down on his Costa Rican frog imports know that those will now be distributed through Saurian Enterprises and that if you paid Justin for Costa Rican frogs that you have not received you will never get them.
 
Mark,
Sorry to hear of the misfortune of others. Unfortunately, Scott MacDonald will continue to shelter and protect Justin, and he will be allowed to continue selling on Dendroboard with no negative comments allowed.
You see now, I was not on a witchhunt. I posted factual info here for the purpose the board exists. And sadly, had Scott MacDonald not tried to discredit me to protect Justin, people would of probably not been ripped off after having read feedback.

I've been in the frog hobby a long time, and know of Justin's actions. I encourage everyone to report bad dealings on BOI and check BOI before doing business. It will save you from getting ripped off.
 
Scott I think the DB team has finally had it's fill as well, Justin can no longer post and they have suspended his feedback based on multiple unresolved issues...and their comments in his feedback are very telling, or at least as telling as DB will get.
It's weird because some people get what they buy from him but many do not and get nothing but excuses. I do know he owes a lot of money for frogs he will no longer be getting, and rather than pay those people back he uses other's prepay money to go buy new inventory from the wholesalers to keep the cycle going. Preselling animals he does not have and the using that money before they show up seems to be a drug he can't give up. I would advise anyone to stay clear of this guy.
 
To be honest, I read that as one of the DB mods got screwed by Justin. I feel sorry for the others, but if one of them did, It serves them right for covering it up and allowing others to get screwed.
DB is a shell now. Most people posting are new giving advice to newer people. The majority of the long timers are gone. All because of the Mods. I am done with the forums. I wouldn't rejoin if my ban was lifted.
Sad part is, I think Jason's forum had great potential when everyone got fed up with DB, but the same cronies from DB joined it, and that kept everyone else from joining.
 
Actually I don't think any of the mods got burned but I had 3 people come to me asking for help and I went to a couple of the mods there and those people have been paid back. I did tell them by not allowing everyone to post their experience they can be seen as abetting Justin's ability to take money from more people. They have removed his face book signature where he sells almost all of his animals, the good new is that for those I asked they help with, all have been taken care of. I do know of a few more out there that are out a few hundred that have not been paid back but I have no idea if they have requested assistance.
After 7 years of the same activity it seems there will always be a % of his customers that receive nothing...not worth the risk.
 
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