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Eightfive
Tyjohn that was after these two mssgs don’t try and flip this buddy... I had no choice but to agree
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Bad Guy Kameron White
- Thread starter tyjohnko
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tyjohnko
Member
Lol , stop lying , the email clearly stated the time for each email, you offer just look at the email time and day.
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kw18
Eightfive
Let’s end this here TYjOHN since you’re finally on here (now that everyone sees the truth about the bait and switch)
Will you accept a fair return? Or not!
I have no desire to screw you over buddy. It’s all here public for everyone to see. You make a deal with me that’s fair and go through with it and this is a done deal. No changing the deal last minute
Will you accept a fair return? Or not!
I have no desire to screw you over buddy. It’s all here public for everyone to see. You make a deal with me that’s fair and go through with it and this is a done deal. No changing the deal last minute
If either of you would post the full photos shown as thumbnail email attachments in post #5, that would be useful.
kw18
Eightfive
Tyjohn you’ve been exposed... the real argument at hand IS THE IGUANA and everyone sees you’ve sent me a different one. Not he emails not the money not this or that END OF STORY
Either we do a return or I’m done here
Either we do a return or I’m done here
Stephenson8011
New member
It’s literally this simple.
1. Keep the animal; send the $100 back and quit whining
2. Send it back and get a refund
If you keep the animal and the $100 then you are a thief in my opinion.
If you send it back and don’t get a full refund then tyjohnko is a thief.
Either way it has thoroughly discussed and I may be new here but I wouldn’t do business with either of you two after reading all of this.
1. Keep the animal; send the $100 back and quit whining
2. Send it back and get a refund
If you keep the animal and the $100 then you are a thief in my opinion.
If you send it back and don’t get a full refund then tyjohnko is a thief.
Either way it has thoroughly discussed and I may be new here but I wouldn’t do business with either of you two after reading all of this.
tyjohnko
Member
I offered you fair deal , and you broke it. now The iguana has been with you for a month and I've seen that you could lie about everything , so i don't trust you and the animal you will send me . I just do not want to deal with possibly headache dealing with you anymore.
I represent my side and evidence , i will not repeating myself over and over. You broke the agreement term and keep the refund money. Now i just will not trust you. That's it from my park.
I represent my side and evidence , i will not repeating myself over and over. You broke the agreement term and keep the refund money. Now i just will not trust you. That's it from my park.
Kameron, and John, BOTH of you seem to be ignoring the request for the thumbnail photos.
mhenry
Member
Kameron, You say you don't want to tarnish your reputation but seems like you already have by threatening to file a fraudulent claim with your bank, getting your money back and keeping the animal. (post 8) The reason you did not want the animal was you said it was way to aggressive for your family (post 9). I do agree that some of the pictures look different....so SEND IT BACK IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT! He has offered you a full refund!!!! In my opinion the ball is 100% in your court. I would not expect anyone to refund you in full before you sent the animal back for any reason. The BOI posts do not get deleted as it is a tool for herpers to use when dealing with buyers and sellers. Thats why I do a search in the BOI before I buy or sell to anyone as It often shows the other persons character. This post will be searchable for years to come.
mhenry
Member
You can always say NO!!! and buy from someone else!!!
Fatalis
New member
Going to also have to agree what has already been said here. Whether or not the iguana is the same one, a full refund has been offered by the seller upon return of the iguana. The whole not trusting the seller thing is just making this overly complicated. Send the iguana back and get the money or send the $100 back and keep the iguana. This doesn't have to be a headache.
kw18
Eightfive
Mhenry you’ve been here for a minute and bring up all old arguements against me that I’ve already explained. And I already said in page 3 or somewhere way back that All of you here who are lewisi enthusiasts KNOW high quality yearling Lewisi DONT GO up for SALE often! I felt I had to jump on it. Again I take blame. And I don’t know what thumbnails are. I can barely keep up with all this I’ve stated I’m horrible with computers. I don’t even know how you guys are all cropping half of my sentence (taking everything I say out of context) and posting it over and over so yes spamming this BOi and I keep having to repeat myself for all the new people on the thread. Tell me I look the like a bad guy again because how I handled a scammer I could care less it’s done and over with. The issue at hand is the iguana. I’ve told everyone I’m here to prove he sent the wrong iguana “bait and switch” if it was an accident he’d have owned up and the return would be done!!!! If he wanted to do a return that was fair like everyone here had suggested then he would have talked to me RIGHT NOW when I asked him in back to back comments. Like everyone said we both don’t trust each other (obviously everyone sees why I don’t) and WE BOTH either need to step up and come to agreement (fair) like multiple members have posted very good ideas that would have our thoughts of being ripped off put as ease.... I told you I’d put money down $$$ he doesn’t want to do or even consider any of these fair returns other memebers talked about cus he’d rather keep the 800$.
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Akiranar
New member
Can some of the more senior members here tell me if Discreet means Friends and Family, please?
kw18
Eightfive
I’m done with this thread. Tyjohn you want to deal public here and take other memebers advice (as I am) and come to terms on a fair agreement that public. Than let’s do it. I’ve taken very good care of your lewisi as you can see he’s nice and fact compared to when I received him (first picture in my kitchen^^)
If not then I’m done with this thread. Thank you to everyone who wasted their days on here to look over all these BS and actually took the time to look at the pictures and even outline the patterns and post that picture (thank you)
Tyjohn you’re the bad guy either way! Return or no retur! You tried to pull a fast one on me (bait and switch) and you got caught cus I’m not some shmuck who buys a 1000$ lewisi and keeps him in a 12x24 fish tank
If not then I’m done with this thread. Thank you to everyone who wasted their days on here to look over all these BS and actually took the time to look at the pictures and even outline the patterns and post that picture (thank you)
Tyjohn you’re the bad guy either way! Return or no retur! You tried to pull a fast one on me (bait and switch) and you got caught cus I’m not some shmuck who buys a 1000$ lewisi and keeps him in a 12x24 fish tank
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kw18
Eightfive
Thank you for this sir!
Anyone who thinks I should return with the 100$ in hand (which only covers shipping) please put up 900$ of your own Money SO if I return and get ripped again I can come to you for my lose....? Any takers if not then please shut up. The guy is dishonest (regardless of how I handled this) he deserves ZERO trust!
100% still open to a public and fair return though! Even the 3rd party Deal. If not then I’m done with this thread.
Anyone who thinks I should return with the 100$ in hand (which only covers shipping) please put up 900$ of your own Money SO if I return and get ripped again I can come to you for my lose....? Any takers if not then please shut up. The guy is dishonest (regardless of how I handled this) he deserves ZERO trust!
100% still open to a public and fair return though! Even the 3rd party Deal. If not then I’m done with this thread.
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The photo in his hand and the one in your hand appear to be the same animal. The one in the ad (in the plastic tub) appears to be different (as others have noted).
John, did you have any feedback for all why the one in the ad in the plastic tub appears different or are you claiming they are the same?
John, did you have any feedback for all why the one in the ad in the plastic tub appears different or are you claiming they are the same?
In this particular context I believe it does. In my industry (firearms) it means not putting anything in the description field to indicate that what is being purchased is a firearm, ammunition, etc. since using PayPal for such purchases violates their TOS.
In reading the back and forth emails between the two it looks like the buyer offered to send payment F&F to get a lower price, it was not a demand made initially by the seller.
Akiranar
New member
Thank you Melinda. So, if what you say is true. Kameron who claimed it was TyJohn who demanded Friends and Family, was the one who suggested it first, correct?
As far as I can tell in all this, Kameron is doing his best to muddy up the thread with calls of "Not the same Iguana". To which the answer has been the same as I said pages ago:
"Either send the Iguana back and get the rest of the money, or keep it and return the $100."
His calls of us putting our money where our mouths are is just, in my opinion, him wanting something for nothing. All his bluster and his insults towards anyone who doesn't agree with him just makes me hope that other people dealing with him see how he acts here and decides never to deal with him again.
That is what I took away from the last post on the bottom of page 20.
It would have been of great help if all of the emails and texts were posted in the first page or two, instead of being dribbled out over 20 pages of discussion.
Stephenson8011
New member
This guy is completely out of his mind. He wants someone else to pay for his mistakes. Really?!?!