• In the past two days I have gotten emails asking about being requested to provide credit card info in order to register and also to make a post in the classifieds forums. PLEASE NOTE: In no instance will this site ask you for this sort of information. The only time any request for payment is made is if you choose to opt-in for a higher membership level, and that is done SOLELY through PayPal. Anything else is coming from a source other than this site. My guess is that this is coming through Google Adsense, but when I can get someone to send me a screen shot of this sort of request, I will know more.
  • Responding to email notices you receive.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

Katie Richardson, Extraordinary Reptiles BEWARE

To follow up on my previous post

Years ago, while I was still practicing medicine I was the medical consultant at an inpatient unit at a community mental health center . At any given time there were always two or three young females with "Borderline Personality Disorder". "Borderlines" often engage in self injurious behaviors. Often one would punch a wall or something similar. Sometimes a "Boxer's Fracture" would even result (that's a fracture of the distal end of hand bone just below the 5th finger, the 5th metacarpal). Invariably, fractured or not, the girl would come and say "Doc, it hurts! What are you going to do about it?". Of course there were always analgesics available but that wasn't the point. The girl wanted immediate resolution of the situation. My answer would usually be to remind her that next time she shouldn't punch a wall.

Tosha, I know it hurts. Next time, don't punch a wall. The result is always the same.
 
lucille said:
Chris, I think I understand what you are saying and the comparison you are trying to make, but I would like to make the comment that too often, rape is seen as the woman's fault and most of the time it is not.
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I agree.

As in the previous example:

It is not SURPRISING that my daughter was (hypothetically) raped, however it was by no means her FAULT.

Similarly...

It is not SURPRISING that Tosha was swindled, however it was by no means her FAULT.

That's all I was saying.

Chris
 
"It is not SURPRISING that my daughter was (hypothetically) raped, however it was by no means her FAULT."

That is not what you said below.

"Just as if I were to warn my daughter that the new boy on the block is bad news. Stay away from him. My daughter likes the boy. She thinks he's cute. She puts on make-up and a pretty dress and leaves to meet him at a party. He drugs and rapes her. It is totally my daughter's fault. She knew of the danger. She was warned. She asked for the date. She was raped. It is my daughter's fault."

I have to say that has got to be one of the worst examples to make a point that I have ever seen. Very very disturbing. That actually really bothered me. People actually read this forum, and that will be here forever. YIKES!
 
You all seem to have missed something

I'm not pissed about anything, except for being attacked by someone with no real business on this thread. I bought those from Katie to see if she was for real thats all. My money is covered by my credit card and they will take care of me. I will take the 5 minutes and file charges against her and be done with it. Not a big deal. I DON"T CARE. Did everyone catch that because I want to make that absolutely clear, there is not tantrum, I'm not hurt, shocked or disappointment. Simply trying to prove a point and remove a scammer.

The point of this thread is to help everyone that got ripped off get their restitution on way or another, not pick at people. My God you people just want to turn everything into a drama, all I ever stated was facts and you turned it into some big issue. I'm sorry, Jim turned it into some big issue. This isn't high school Jim.

I don't care what she sent me, I did not get what she guaranteed me that I would get and when I confronted her, she is not willing to back up her guarantee. On top of that she is a liar and a theif. If you want to attack me because I'm trying to help people that lost thousands of dollars, and that makes me the bad guy, so be it.
 
pch101 said:
"It is not SURPRISING that my daughter was (hypothetically) raped, however it was by no means her FAULT."

That is not what you said below.

"Just as if I were to warn my daughter that the new boy on the block is bad news. Stay away from him. My daughter likes the boy. She thinks he's cute. She puts on make-up and a pretty dress and leaves to meet him at a party. He drugs and rapes her. It is totally my daughter's fault. She knew of the danger. She was warned. She asked for the date. She was raped. It is my daughter's fault."
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Obviously you failed to recognize the point of the example.

Chris
 
See that? Now it's about me? Tosha, you came here whining about the genetics and how you were filing charges, etc. Then it was the gender/feeding. Then it was the size. Now you don't care.

I don't see how baiting someone (your term for what you did) can actually "help people that lost thousands of dollars" but perhaps you can enlighten us. But that isn't really what you did anyway, is it. Your words (again):

ToshaMc said:
She did posted them for auction, told the whole story, with links to both this thread as well as Raymond Harrisons thread and offered them either as a group or in part sold for about the same price as normals but with Raymond Harrisons paperwork. I think she did a pretty reasonable thing to try to clear things up and probably took a big loss just to rid herself of Harrisons "Hets". I did pick up several females for about $10 more per snake than I would pay for a normal (or about the same price as if you walked into petco and bought one of the normal snakes). I expect them to be nothing but healthy, feeding, normal female snakes as guaranteed by Katie. If they turn out to be hets, then great, if not, no money, time or sweat lost and who can't use a few extra females in their projects!
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Now splain me Lucy, how does that equate to "Simply trying to prove a point and remove a scammer." and "trying to help people that lost thousands of dollars"?

You bought them for yourself. Stop trying to make yourself look any less foolish than you are.

I never said you are the "bad guy". You may be a fool, but that doesn't make you evil. I did say that you should stop your whining. Of course, keep making up more stories about your motives and some of us may begin to see you differently.
 
Wow

Chris I truley think you could have found a better example, but I have also typed
things without thinking. Im sorry to hear that these people have taken so many different peoples money.
Daniel Haney
 
Jim, either your really really stupid

or desperate for acceptance. Because you are grasping at nothing now. I did not come here "whining" you fool, that was your insinuation, because I never cared enough to whine, there is a reason why I use my credit card for every transaction I do, because they cover my ass in case of fraud. What pisses me off is that some Joke like you keeps making this about something its not, this is about Katie.

"I don't see how baiting someone (your term for what you did) can actually "help people that lost thousands of dollars" but perhaps you can enlighten us."

Gladly - I provided addresses and phone numbers (as did steve) for those that received nothing that helps, for the fact that she is using different addresses shows suspision that helps. By standing up and filing charges (as everyone else should also) she will be forced to stop her scamming that helps. By being able to show that there is a possible connection between Harrison and Kaite (IE Bearded Pets same docs, locals, etc.) that helps. How are you helping? By trying to belittle me?

"You bought them for yourself."

Actually no - I know this is some attempt to make me look like I was taking advantage of Katie, or hoping to score a deal, but in all honesty and everyone that I've spoken to about that this prior to even getting the snakes will attest to the fact that I knew they were nothing more than normal snakes and if they were in fact normal feeding females there wouldn't be any issue at all (gee now isn't that the same thing I said a dozen times already). Hell even before Katie came along I knew Harrisons snakes were nothing but normal.

"Of course, keep making up more stories about your motives and some of us may begin to see you differently."

It seems to me you are the one here making up stories. I've just presented facts about relevant issues. And I'm just saying the same things I've been saying since the beginning, so how is my story changing? It's like talking to a wall.

If anyone needs any further information on Katie, you want to file charges, etc. you can pm or email me directly. There are like I said a few others out there that have emailed me in this regard and so if there is going to be a group effort I can provide that information also.

Clearly Jim wants to lord over the BOI like it's his personal domain and I don't have the patience for his childishness. No wonder so many people think the BOI is a joke.
 
Well thank God for good citizens like Tosha who will waste their time and money and effort to bring down a bad guy that we all knew was a bad guy. What a hero! :toiletcla

Anyone who buys all this, I have a bridge to sell you. It's in New York. It goes across the East River between Brooklyn and Manhattan.The world's first suspension bridge in fact. It's called the Brooklyn Bridge. Any takers, please contact Katie via Tosha. She has the address. LMAO.
 
Quote:"Clearly Jim wants to lord over the BOI like it's his personal domain and I don't have the patience for his childishness. No wonder so many people think the BOI is a joke."

Way to go Tosha...now you just took a big header into the pool of over-reaction...and you are off my list.
Learn to take criticism for what it is worth, and stop crying mea culpa while beating your chest so hard...
It sucks that you were ripped, but hardly a suprise. In view of your attitude, I really don't feel all that sorry for you, to be honest.
greg
 
Last post regarding this issue

This matter is being settled between those of us involved off the board for obvious reasons. If anyone wants further information, feel free to PM or email. For the person looking for Harrisons NC address, I have that also, you can PM me.

Continue your bickering....
 
tasha deserves NO sympathy. A lesson in ethics perhaps, definately a lesson in HOW to do business, but sympathy? NO.

She got EXACTLY what she KNEW she was MOST LIKELY to get. Ripped off.

Sour grapes, spilt milk, however you want to look at it, she GOT what she ASKED for.

tahsa, you are looking worse and worse here. I, and as always I am speaking ONLY for myself, think your motives were NOT altruistic at all. You played the angles and LOST.

Buck up, dry up and move on. If you deal with scumbags you get sh$t on your shoes.

Any bets on how long it will be before these "eating machines" will be up for sale?
 
ToshaMc said:
This matter is being settled between those of us involved off the board for obvious reasons. If anyone wants further information, feel free to PM or email. For the person looking for Harrisons NC address, I have that also, you can PM me.

Continue your bickering....
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Hmmmm could some of those reasons be because YOU got your a$$ handed to you? Or because YOU got your panties in a wad and we saw it? Or, most likely, because you are embarrassed that you have been exposed?

Go. Fine. When you grow up enough to play in THIS sandbox, come on back. It's NOT for babies, crying or otherwise.
 
"Obviously you failed to recognize the point of the example.
Chris"

Oh I recognise the point alright. I just think it was made in bad taste and in the most inappropriate of ways.

Rape is NEVER the fault of the victim, and to even suggest otherwise is one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen. :hot:
 
"You played the angles and LOST."

At first I read that as "You played the ANGELS and lost." Perhaps another way of saying "tempting the fates". I immediately thought, "How beautiful! That is a wonderful phrase. I'll have to remember that one." Upon a second reading, the actual billiards cliche dawned on me. However...

I still plan on using the phrase "Playing with the angels" or some similar variant. Thanks! =)

Chris
 
pch101 said:
"Obviously you failed to recognize the point of the example.
Chris"

Oh I recognise the point alright. I just think it was made in bad taste and in the most inappropriate of ways.

Rape is NEVER the fault of the victim, and to even suggest otherwise is one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen. :hot:
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Again...I think you failed to recognize the point of the example. I wasn't suggesting that rape is the fault of the victim. I was suggesting the opposite -- that it is NEVER the victim's fault.

Chris
 
CJBianco said:
Again...I think you failed to recognize the point of the example. I wasn't suggesting that rape is the fault of the victim. I was suggesting the opposite -- that it is NEVER the victim's fault.

Chris
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It was a very poor analogy.

The two, as I stated in my disagreement with your initial post, are NOT alike at all. For the one castration should be the LEAST of penalties, for the other a good a$$kicking should be sufficient.

You need to work on your analogous comparisons Chris, this one sucked bigtime.
 
hmmm...losing some money, or losing your life's feeling of dignity and perpetually being haunted by fear...oh, yeah, I guess we must have missed that analogy.
Bad one Chris...

greg
 
"Again...I think you failed to recognize the point of the example. Chris"

And again I am going to tell you that your words are here forever. Here they are again:

"He drugs and rapes her. It is totally my daughter's fault. She knew of the danger. She was warned. She asked for the date. She was raped. It is my daughter's fault." Chris

You say I do not understand your point and then you say this:

"I wasn't suggesting that rape is the fault of the victim. I was suggesting the opposite -- that it is NEVER the victim's fault."
Chris

OK, So which is it? Is it her fault or not? I would like some help here since I have such a hard time comprehending the complex meaning of your statement. Chris, there is no point in trying to make me out to be the dummy here. You said one of the stupidest things I have ever seen here and then tried to blame it on my comprehension skills. You should just admit your error and apologize to anyone you may have offended (I guarantee that there are many that were), and then move on. Don't try to pass it off on me because you write something as foolish as that.

That being said, I do think that Tosha was pretty foolish to go into a deal with Katie, and I have no idea as to her motivation to enter into such a deal. However it is still not her fault that Katie is dishonest. But, she should have known better, and she could have avoided this. However, she still has a case and I hope she gets her money back and that she learns a valuable lesson. I think Tosha also needs to look at things a little differently. Tosha, when a person buys from known or suspected scammer, that person is in essence more than likely funding future scamming projects for the scammer and giving them an incentive to continue scamming in the future. Something to consider. Please do not consider this to be an attack.
 
I took the whole "rape story" as sarcasm used to make the point that it wasn't the daughters fault or Tosha's even though they both had warnings.
We need to keep our eye on the ball here, we all agree that Katie is a bad bad person. Lets stick with that. -Chris Ahrens
 
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